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Since I just bought Sonic 1, 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles on Steam, I was curious as to how everybody plays Sonic around here. I used to have Sonic 1, 2, and 3 on Genesis and rented Sonic & Knuckles regularly. Later I went to playing it on Windows ME, then Dreamcast, then Gamecube, then 360, and now Windows 7.

Here's my Satam Fanfic. It deals with what would happen if the Freedom Fighters and Robotnik ended up on 2070s Earth. Finally got the damn thing uploaded. Frickin Open Office. It's nice that it's free but the .odt format is annoying when you need to convert to .doc.

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When I first laid eyes on a Sonic the Hedgehog comic at the local grocery store, I was thrilled. I had already read a Knuckles comic and loved the Genesis games. From around issue 76 to issue 160, I was very into the Sonic comics. Checked every day for them and got them as soon as they came out. I was also very intrigued to find out there was a show related to them, which I incorrectly assumed was based on them. I know better now, that it was actually the opposite.

I loved the Shadow bots, the Freedom Fighters, Robotropolis, Knothole, Robotnik's super computer, and the Freedom Fighters. It was a vast new world of Sonic to explore. I also liked the integration of Station Square from Sonic Adventure later in the comics and the presentation of Metal Sonic. Fast forward to now, and there's some story arcs I wish I had never known existed:

1. Endgame

While the earliest in terms of release date of any in my list, this was the last I discovered, thanks to the internet. After all, it was before my time.

Endgame sadly is far from unique in comic books. There are loads of bizarre story arcs in comic book history that involve killing off main characters and then bringing them back with illogical explanations of how, sometimes even the main hero. The fact that people seem so shocked by it is hilarious to me. Superman, X-men, Batman, all of them have story arcs where main characters die. So it is certainly not unprecedented. Still, it is a very cheap plot device which I despise.

My reaction to learning that Sally died was to cry like a baby, then feel angry and confused as I read on. I don't think I've ever had as strong of an emotional reaction to a fictional event before.

My response now is to be a little pissed about it but accept that these things happen with comics. Personally, I think death needs to be all our nothing. It would have made me feel better if Sally either died or if the story was never written in the first place. I blame Sega for both her death and the ludicrous retcon. They forced the comic writers' doubly. Stupid shits. They sure as hell didn't have to limit taking Sally and Sonic's relationship further. Neither did they have to bring her back to put her in a game (something they have yet to do). She is alive and well in the tv show at the end of season 2.

2. The Xorda Invasion

This story is also nothing unsual. Weirdo aliens show up, ignorant Earthlings piss them off, mutations from weird weapons that create super heroes that can defeat them, blah blah blah. But there are far better incarnations of it in other comics. It just didn't work well with how they did it in Sonic.

So, these big weird floating head giant space octopus things come to Earth in their floating turd. They want to make a military alliance with a vastly technologically inferior race. With their overwhelming power they could easily just subjugate the natives instead but, no, they have to send unarmed diplomats. Of course the primitive savages think they will gain more from dissecting them than from technology sharing with the highly advanced race. So they take them to their glorified sacrificial pit and cut them up. Those weirdos don't even bother with the ship. They just want to make weird octopus things apparently. Probably as a gift to their capricious gods.

Naturally, since the brainless barbarians decide to kill the aliens instead of allying with them (cause that's what you do when you encounter a more advanced civilization right?) the civilized aliens come to destroy them. As odd as it is that warlike aliens left their ambassadorial group unprotected when dealing with savages, it is just as odd that these savages accepted their fate apparently without a fight. The Earthlings had a vast arsenal of land, sea, and air based anti-aircraft weaponry but in spite of their earlier aggressive posture they used nothing. Apparently they discovered somewhere along the line that the aliens actually the gods' chosen ones. Maybe they noticed something about their form while dissecting them or were fascinated by their ships. Of course the will to survive would tend to overrule that.

So, the chosen ones used their holy weapons to destroy the human heathens. After all, since they are so holy it is proportionate response for them to dispatch billions of the bipedal devils for a few of their elect slain. It might damage the holy relic of "mud speck" though to use conventional firebombing, which would arguably be more effective, so they use "gene bombs," whatever the hell those are. Probably some biological weapon. Strange, I thought NBC systems would protect our troops. Oh wait, we're not fighting back. It violates the will of the gods. Only heretics like the overlanders seek to survive.

And so, something meant to destroy human DNA somehow implants it into various other animals, instantaneously transforming them into humanoids. Magic works fast. They all become the same species and yet in spite of interracial marriage 99% of them still look like the animals they originally were. Then the holy crusaders come to destroy these abominations and are defeated by them teaming up with a member of the species they originally sought to destroy. Guess their deities have forsaken them. Even their holiest relic failed to burn out this affront to all that is right. Something which destroys technology by unknown means (EMP perhaps? Even that wouldn't cause machines to spontaneously fall apart though and it wouldn't make supersonic missiles stop moving forward in midair).

Then all is right in the universe. Except Sonic is dead. Wait, nope. Just like Sally, he will survive. Perhaps they are the chosen ones after all.

3. Mobius 25 Years Later

In the context of a series of explicit finite length, such as the Harry Potter books, an epilogue is entertaining. It shows what happens when the characters go on with their lives.

In the context of a series of virtually infinite length, it destroys all suspense. No longer do we have to worry about bad things happening to Sonic and Sally. No longer can we speculate about whether they end up ultimately getting married or what their kids will look like. It all works out for them in the end. And apparently they have chosen to reproduce through cloning. An odd choice given their passionate kissing, but how else can you explain the son being nearly identical to Sonic as a kid and the daughter being identical to a teenage Sally? Looks like Sonic waited longer to clone himself though. If they're kids find out, they might just go from sibling rivalry to getting it on. Then we will see what a Hedgesquirrelmunk looks like.

And seriously, can anyone imagine Sonic as a king? I picture it more like Queen Victoria and her husband. The queen isn't necessarily married to a king. Then again, I can't imagine Sonic as a politician either. Maybe Antoine.

I could add many more to the list, but these are the main ones. Oh yeah, and not to mention as happens with comic books, the stories get recycled over and over and over again. Too much monotony for my variation obsessed self.

Well, Michael Wong did a hilarious commentary on Star Trek vs Star Wars, essentially postulating that the Empire would beat the Federation's butt. Given that it's already been done, and that this is a Sonic site, I'm going to do a SatAM one instead.

Since the conflict is actual, rather than hypothetical, this will not be about who would win but rather why the Freedom Fighters won and also why Robotnik caused them to have some close calls.

Reasons for beginning of conflict:

1. Obviously, Dr. Robotnik. Supposedly a brilliant scientist, even though he shows very little interest in natural science (unraveling the secrets of the universe), far more in applied science (engineering). Possibly the biggest sadist the universe has ever seen. He's no furry since he does not like the animals derobiticized, but something about tormenting animals and then turning them into steel gives him a major hard on. He also enjoys destroying his own atmosphere for fun. Apparently he's a masocist too, intent on getting the biggest boner possible by choking to death on his own factories' fumes. He also enjoys beating on his nephew, making him call him "sir," and turning everyone into his slaves. Like I said, biggest sadist the universe has ever seen. Actually, perhaps I am wrong about the no furry part. After all, there are many times he could of speedily killed or roboticized the Freedom Fighters. But it was more fun to simply watch them struggle to escape from holding cells, steel restraints, rope, or a strange pinball game. Like Nikola Tesla, he enjoys talking to birds and inventing super weapons. Unlike Tesla, he's seeking to help himself to the world, not to help the world. Also unlike Tesla, his inventions have been rather harmful rather than beneficial. Not to mention Tesla won out against his foe (Thomas Edison) but Robotnik failed miserably against his. In spite of liking robots, he hates being partially roboticized. Also, he is a genius when it comes to creating machines, other than that he neglects AI, water proofing, and making things that don't fall apart when they run into walls.

2. Sally's father- It is quite ironic that Sally is arguably the most intelligent Freedom Fighter, considering that her father is about as bright as Antoine and Dulcy. Without his short-sighted and sloppy decision making, Robotnik never would have been able to pull off his coup. He essentially handed the kingdom to him on a silver platter. He let Robotnik create a massive robotic army, air force, and space force which he could assert complete control over just by hacking one computer with minimal or no security safeguards and was content with Robotnik having complete control over it from the beginning. He also made the police force similarly vulnerable to takeover through Robotnik's computer skill. To counter this, he had a single royal guard with a spear against robots armed with laser weaponry.

Obviously the idea that he should have living law enforcement and military loyal to him first with firepower comparable to Robotnik's forces never occured to him. Neither did the idea of a chain of command, internal security units, a cyber security force or redundant computer safeguards and isolated systems. Real governments buy their weapons from multiple companies and have many different security organizations controlled by humans to protect against such an attack, and will rarely have a successful coup if their nations are doing well and they have popular support. Sally's father didn't have so much as a peasant militia defending him. Why Robotnik ever bothered banishing such an incompetent leader to the void and didn't just roboticize him is a mystery to me. Seems like him and Naugus would make great neighbors, they were both naive in regards to Robotnik.

Also, you have to wonder what he planned to do if Robotnik did disarm the military and they faced a significant internal or external threat, such as terrorists, an alien invasion, or an asteroid impact.

3. Some of Mobotropolis's residents escaped, namely the Freedom Fighters. Something Sally and Sonic almost screwed up through time travel by listening to that goof Dulcy. Also by Sonic being crazy about chili dogs. Are we completely sure that he's straight?

4. Snivelly. Why did he not be more careful to check about what his crazy uncle, or should I say, "the miserable toad," might try to pull?

Forces:

Robotnik's Forces:

SWAT bots:

Medium robotic infantry humanoid in form armed with lasers. While they appear heavily armored, they can break into pieces by running into walls, a notable design flaw. They also are very vulnerable to water. A very significant problem considering how prolific water is on Mobius, like on Earth. Apparently Robotnik's military has no navy or marine corps. They show decent intelligence for robots when they are not screwed over by "priority one hedgehog alert," causing them to abandon their stations to chase a target they stand absolutely no chance at pursuing successfully. The best defense is a good offense, except when your enemy moves much faster than you. Also their weapons can be reflected by mirrors, which wouldn't work with real weapons grade lasers.

Peacebots:

Robotnik's law enforcement. Oddly enough there are less of them than SWAT bots (think about real police forces). They look different but have extremely similar performance characteristics to SWAT bots. The main difference between them is that all peace bots have fast hoverbikes with powerful spotlights.

Buzz bombers: Only seen during the pilot episode, these are one of the strongest nods to the video game. Funny how Tails is so afraid of them. When I played Sonic 2, I never hesitated to use Tails on offense in 2-player since he was invincible, and in one player there was no meaningful difference between Sonic and Tails except appearance. These can carry large payloads of herbicide (strange that they'd bother with it since fire bombing the forest would be much quicker and more effective). They also shoot lasers and one can launch a hedgehog seeking missile, a device just as brain dead as the rest of Robotnik's machines. If it had a mouth it would say "priority one hedgehog alert!" They are stupid enough to fly straight into water balloons launched from catapults difficult to reaim and I've seen cell phones and laptops with better water proofing. They also occasionally destroy themselves by launching lasers at highly reflective rocks.

Hover cars:

Used to transport Robotnik's SWAT bots since they don't get the cool bikes. Also has a laser mounted on top for battles. With after burners, these things are extremely fast and versatile. If they weren't piloted by stupid SWAT bots they might actually be pretty effective, even against Sonic. Brain dead buttnik also came up with the brilliant idea of equipping them with goo to slow Sonic down. If not for their terrible aim lasers would be more useful since they move faster than Sonic and would do more damage than goo.

Weird head-body mech things:

The closest thing Robotnik has to tanks. For some reason they can be piloted even though they have no need for pilots, just making them vulnerable to Grand Theft Auto. Also have bizzare scanners that come out of their fingers. You would think the sensors would get damaged easily with that design but they seem to do fine. However, their aim is terrible and they can be thrown off balance by Sonic running around them. He of course could have used to treads which would make them more stable and able to fire heavier weapons but we never said he was good designer.

Command units:

Robots controlling robots. Strange how it never seems to make them perform better than the autonomous ones. Also you can trap them by manually closing their claws. Funny, it seems like it'd make more sense to have a manual open switch in case your fingers got caught in one.

Doomsday device:

Big tower thing that sends out a bunch of these little pods that destroy everything. Essentially achieves the same effect as if Robotnik mindlessly through all of his forces at the Freedom Fighters. Very hard to take out but not so much with power stones. Since we don't know how many times the power stones can be used it seems like it'd be a good idea to make five or so of these things but then they would merely be doomsday devices, instead of "The Doomsday Device."

Test Pod:

Nearly invincible, this thing took a whole lot of punishment to bring down. First getting hit by a super powerful energy based artillery weapon stolen from Robotnik (who for some reason never used it) and then a lightning storm. It's basically a flying saucer. Why this glorified Frisbee is so ridiculously resilient is never explained but what's even more perplexing is why Robotnik can't make anything else that can stand up to a can opener.

Stealth bots:

Autonomous drones armed with missiles. Probably the most realistic weapon Robotnik has. Of course, it's still brain dead.

Command shuttle:

Has to be really big to transport Robotnik since he is so fat. Judging by its appearance it wouldn't take much to bring it down.

Robotic cat:

Super fast. Not much more I can say about this machine. Tries to lure Sonic into traps like this weird arm thing that tries to pull him into toxic ooze. Amazing that it doesn't work considering how arrogant Sonic is.

Memory scrambler:

It would've worked if it wasn't for those meddling kids! Hey, they are all about the same age as the Scooby Doo characters. Basically allowed Snivelly to control Sonic briefly by wiping his memory and making "Snivelly the Great" able to convince him that the Freedom Fighters were the enemy.

Roboticized Mobians: Hostile to Sonic and the others. Work for Robotnik doing menial tasks. Can regain their memory at times and become allies of the Freedom Fighters.

Spy ship: Filled with weird AoStH reject robots as defenders, this gave Robotnik an eye in the sky over Sonic. Of course, it came tumbling down and all Robotnik's SWAT bots and all his attempts to win couldn't put humpty spybot back together again.

Drilling snakes: They do exactly what their name implies. Quite effective against a weird ooze ball humanoid thing, not so much against a blue hedgehog.

Dino bot: Big robot that digs tunnels. Very useful...for destroying the other mining equipment.

Shriek bot: To be honest I need to watch that episode again, cause I don't remember that.

Freedom Fighters:

Initially armed with catapults, the Freedom Fighters logically advance technologically as the series goes on, progressing to biplanes and even energy weapons. They always have advanced computers.

Sonic: Blue streak speeds by, Sonic the Hedgehog! Okay, does this dude really need an introduction? He's the fast moving, fast talking, robot destroying, crazy, arrogant little smartass freak we all love. Oh, and he's too cool for school, unlike that nice boy Mario. He gives the kisses to Sally, but he gives head to chili dogs. Did I mention he's really obnoxious?

Tails: Nice to have around in Sonic 2 (except when he's controlled by the AI on ring stages, ugh) and extremely helpful in Sonic 3 and Knuckles (thanks to his airlift ability) as well as very fun to play as in single player especially in the latter, he's often relegated to the silly helpless child role in SatAM. He does help out some though.

Sally: As Mario is to Peach, Sonic is to Sally. They really don't seem like a couple as you don't see them holding hands very much or anything, yet they exchange kisses. I mean, not like Mario and Peach. They exchange saliva. We're never told what else they might be exchanging. Anyway, Sally is basically the brains of the operation, the leader of the Knothole Freedom Fighters. She's a computer hacker, a strategist, a decent fighter, a covert operative, and a jack of all trades engineer. She also keeps you saying "ooo, burn!," when she talks to Sonic. And, of course, he deserves it.

Antoine: The funny, stupid prick who's a major stereotypical Frenchman. He has the hots for Sally as much as Sonic does, maybe more since a chili dog isn't competing with Sally for his affection. Actually, Sally isn't competing at all for his affection. She's just winning without even playing the game. Royal guard? Yeah right. That's why he wandered off to be king. He's a major coward and comes close to comprising the Freedom Fighters many times. At the same time , he is useful. The other Freedom Fighters would probably appreciate him rescuing Sally once more if it had actually put him in a lot of danger and if he would shut up about it or at least quit exaggerating.

Rotor: Far more one dimensional than Sally, he's not a jack of all trades, he's a master of one. A mechanical genius specializing in robotics. He can also create weapons that eat metal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. He really loves eating fish, which might explain his high weight.

Bunny: Very strong and can use her robotic legs to reach up to high places. Very good at fighting. As Antoine would say, "a master of King-Fu!" She's also very sweet. Even she can get short with Antoine though. Why she seeks to shed her robotic limbs while the fight against Robotnik is still going I fail to understand. Also why she curls her ears.

Uncle Chuck: He invented the roboticizer to help old people get around. Unfortunately, it turned them into zombies. Perhaps he should've thought not to have it roboticize the brain. Robotnik stole his poorly guarded invention and used it to robiticize Mobians. Still made a useful spy, engineer and tactician though after Sonic reminded him of who he was.

Grif: Tried to steal Sonic's stone to keep his city well powered. Later became Sonic's ally.

Lupe: Leader of the wolf pack. Her band of Freedom Fighters is quite good at sabotaging Robotnik's test pods with bombs. Not much else to say about her.

Miscellanous Freedom Fighters/Knothole residents: The former is easy prey for Robotnik. The latter never does anything useful outside of the pilot episode.

Outcome:

Funny thing is, after all their guerilla warfare against Robotnik, it all comes down to a final battle to destroy his doomsday device. They take out Robotnik almost instantly by Sonic and Sally combining the power stones and taking the power of them. It makes the other episodes feel somewhat inconsequential, but I guess they had to delay Robotnik by cutting off power, disrupting mining, disrupting oil drilling, and destroying the SWAT bot factory and various machines until they figured out how to strike the final blow. Funny, it seems that Robotnik had the exact same strategy but it didn't work out for him because the fool overestimated his tech and underestimated the power stones so he guarded his tech far more heavily, which ironically lead to its destruction since it allowed Sally and Sonic to acquire the other power stone.

Possible Aftermath:
Sally's dad? He can stay in the void for all I care. Sally is a better leader. Obviously Naugus and Snivelly would become the main villians. Oh man, ole' Robuttnik is gonna seem like nothing.

Hi everybody! I'm Nate. I've been a Sonic fan since my big brother showed me Sonic the Hedgehog on the Sega Genesis back when I was 2 years old in 1992. I read the comics practically since the time I was first able to read at that level but I didn't get into SatAM until 2001 when I went to the video store looking for AoStH episodes and noticed that SatAM was more similar to the comics (which I later found was because the comics were based on it) and I liked it. Later I got a DVD set for Christmas in 2007 but lost it and got another one earlier this year for my birthday. I love the show.

I'm currently a computer science major at Michigan State University. I love books and PC games like Starcraft. I'm a big Harry Potter fan. And so, I have recently started working on my own SatAM fanfiction in my spare time using Open Office. I look forward to getting to know you all. Now, could anyone tell me how to post my Fanfiction? Also, if I could get someone to illustrate, that'd be great since my drawing skills have been sub-par since 2009.