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The fic that convinced me to like the shipping turns them into anthros in Sonic's universe.

 

I don't see a problem with that since there are Equine Mobians in SatAM and in the comic.

 

Agreed.  If they become more Mobian like great.  Otherwise....it just comes out weird.

That's the thing...it's really hard without completely removing Sally from the picture.  Even if Sally was just "busy" doing other things, Bunnie wouldn't betray their friendship by making a move on Sonic.  They'd have to have become enemies or Sally would have to have been removed from the equation entirely. 

Depends on who you want to start the relationship.

If Bunnie is going to move first there is two ways I can think of:

1) Bunnie and Sally have a falling out where Sally was the one out of line/at fault.  Sonic goes to comfort Bunnie and in her emotional state she kisses him and things grow from there.

2) Sally goes missing/comatose/dead.  Bunnie tries to comfort Sonic over the loss and things grow from there.  

If Sonic is going to make the first move:

1) Sonic and Sally break up.  Sonic goes to complain to Bunnie about Sally but ends up instead just talking to Bunnie.  He eventually asks Bunnie out but she initially refuses not wanting to hurt her friendship with Sally.  However after a while Bunnie gives in and goes out with Sonic.

2) Sonic just starts spending more time with Bunnie that he starts falling for her.

The big kicker here is Bunnie won't start the romance without either 1) Sally being out of the picture for one reason or another, or 2) an ending or falling out between Sally and Bunnie because Bunnie is a loyal friend and won't do anything to hurt Sally.  Sonic on the other hand wouldn't purposely hurt Sally but could easily start falling for Bunnie if his focus was shifted. 

It that genetically modified dog food with all those hormones in it I tell ya!

While we're at it, who taste tests dog food?  Somebody has to because they have the flavors labeled. 

I think you'd all be surprised the reception a game based on the Archie universe would get. The more and more I connect the dots with bringing the comic more in line with the games and now with the Freedom Fighters looking like proper game characters I am starting to think one might be imminent. Just look at the newest comic cover with them all in 3D; it looks like they are now game ready. I dunno if it's just false hope again, but it does give food for thought.

I still will keep the promise I made to myself about 18 years ago: if they put the FF in a game It'll be the first Sonic game I'll buy brand new; yep, "Sega: take my money!" I'll say.

Only if you can get there before me. 

I'm glad Ian Flynn kept Bunny and Antoine together; he's doing the best he can under the circumstances. In my book I only wished he had shortened the Mecha Sally arc; 2 1/2 years was just too long. Other than that if you look at it objectively he has done a lot to repair the damage Bollers and Penders did. I'm really hoping that he is using this reset to kind of clean away many of the scars left from their tenure.

I just thought of something:

Where the *Butterscotch* is Snively?

I hate it how history is getting re-written based on current events. I guess it's true, "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself."

Back in the early 1990s I can tell you that grown adults loved and played Sonic; and it is fact that it was marketed at the mainstream, not just children.

It was marketed to whomever would buy it.  

More adults bought it for their kids than for themselves, ergo, SEGA focused on that market.  

More accurately Sonic was never marketed to an Adult audience, some just picked it up, like with Mario and quite a few other games.  Just like how the original Disney Cartoons and Looney Tunes were marketed towards the general audience but later became more kid oriented because that's where it sold better. 

So?  Should we really blame him for doing his job?  Even if you read a lot of Flynn's older stuff, before Archie, Flynn was a lore nut.  I don't think he likes these changes any more than the rest of us.  He's just salvaging what he can.  Should we really blame him for making the changes when he was told to?

 

 

Oh no! All those angry white people are eating that poor asian fellow! 

Crap...Dead Rising is happening!

 

 

Yay! *Pulls out his Toy Megaman hat, camera, and a Shotgun* Time to get some scoops!

 

Yay!  

*Hops on TIR Motorcycle*

How did this progress to football?

 

But what I am trying to propose is each universe have its own comics, games, series, maybe even films. You can choose which one you want. There would (hopefully) be far less fan wars, more people would have what they want, there would be more satisfied customers, and that would mean more revenues for SEGA.

 

What possible reason would there be to not support this?

1. SEGA would have to pay more money out first.  They probably don't wanna do that.
2. It also means SEGA has to find people to make these Sonic Games, Comics, etc.  Again, if they're happy where they are at, I don't see them putting forth the extra effort.
3. This doesn't reduce the fan wars but rather change their focus.  
4. This leaves out spin off media such as Sonic the Comic, That French Sonic Comic thing (which is pretty good), and even some non SatAM/Archie Sonic American Versions.  To be fair you'd have to give each an every one it's own set of canon which is a whole lot more work than it is worth. 

Again, I'm NOT against the idea, in fact if it worked I think it would be a great Idea.  I just don't think it solves the problem with a reasonable amount of effort.

 

The problem is this is when we get things like the infamous slap scene.  In the situation, which is totally in her character as I've said before many a time

The slap was in character? If it were in character, we wouldn't be seeing so many people complaining about it. I think the slap was antithetical to her character, even considering a mental breakdown (I don't think the breakdown itself was OOC, just The Slap). Claiming that Sonic was being selfish didn't even make the slightest bit of sense (which Sonic called her out on, but that didn't make the fact she did it any more believable), especially considering he was acting the way she'd always acted and the way she'd always want him to act, putting his country's needs above his own. Seriously, where did this idea even come from?

 

Ugh...Again?

1) She's somewhere between ages 15-17.  I don't know how many teenagers you know who could take a rejection like that and not blow it out of proportion, especially in a state of instability that she was clearly in.

2) Sonic just died and came back to life.  Based on past events such as her father being nearly killed when attempting to retrieve the Sword of Acorns, and her Mother Being in the Coma, and even having Rotor empty the fuel in the Sea Fox so Tails won't get hurt playing in it, Sally is way overprotective to those she fears to lose.  It wouldn't be the first time she overacted to a situation.  

3) Settling down and having a family, specifically since Elias at the time gave up trying to be king, would be in the best interest for The Kingdom of Acorn.  With the King constantly being either away on business or sick, having someone able to take over at hand would benefit the masses.  On top of that, Sonic is a hero that many look up to, so he is an ideal choice for that role, considering Sally would be doing most of the ruling anyways leaving Sonic mostly as a figure head.  While yes Sonic's skills are best suited elsewhere, Sally wasn't only thinking of herself during the event.

4) On the same note, Sonic wasn't only thinking of everyone else.  On many occasion Sonic has ran away from a romantic or relationship building situation.  He's flat out told the reader he's not ready yet before.  It wouldn't be out of character for Sally to see him using an excuse to avoid doing something he doesn't want to do. 

5) Right before Sonic "died" their marriage and stuff was all set into motion.  It was expected until it was wretched away when Sonic sacrificed himself to save the day.  Would it not be reasonable for Sally to have wished it  to continue where it left off?  To suddenly have her desires to be stolen away again, is she only supposed to take that smiling?  No.  Sally's a rebel, she fights for her dreams.  She didn't want to give up without a fight.  That is completely in her character.

Honestly we all look at Sally as someone who is Self-Sacrificing, always planning ahead, and near perfect that we forget that is only her outer shell.  She's allowed to be selfish, immature, and make the wrong decision and still be in character.  

That's where I'm reversed.

I can feel for the nameless faceless Stormtroopers who get killed off one by one just doing their job.

I can feel bad for the unimportant yet adorable enemies I have to level grind through so I can beat Dhoulmagus is Dragon Quest 8.

You give a character some form of Identification, I can feel for them.  

Besides, you don't need to feel sad for Bambi's Mom getting killed, that's not the point.  What you're supposed to be feeling is sadness for Bambi, a young child who we've seen his personality (albeit not a very complex one) who just lost his mom.  

The point isn't she died, but rather that Bambi lost her.  

You don't need to feel sad for Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru in Star Wars when they die (though I do).  You are supposed to feel bad for Luke as his whole world is now crashing down around him and the only thing that kept him alive was because he lied to his guardians that he was taking the droids down to get worked on to hide the fact he lost one, after getting into a fight with his Uncle. 

You don't need to feel sad that Uncle Ben (no Ben...not you) died.  You are supposed to feel bad that Uncle Ben was shot after trying to teach Peter Parker a lesson that he shoved back into his Uncle's face because he didn't want to deal with it, and now never will have a chance to make up for it.

Honestly that may be me because I've been there.  I got into a fight with one of my cousins because he was teasing me (him being quite a few years older than me) and never apologized when he was just trying to play with me but I was a dumb kid.  He died before the next chance I had to see him.  So my opinion may be biased on what you're supposed to feeling in these situations.  However if you don't feel sad when these personality-lacking characters die, you must not feel a whole lot in movies.  Honestly how many nameless people die in movies such as Dante's Peak or Jurassic Park?  If you can't feel for the generics, there isn't a whole lot of movies that you're getting.  

I be in the opposite boat.  I'd like to see a 3D Sonic Adventure-esque game based on the Archie Comics.

Writier/Artist/Director - I don't care.  As long as it looks good.  Just because they're good in one area doesn't mean they're good everywhere.  There are tons of comic based games written by the actual comic writers that still suck.  (I still love you X-Men Destiny).

I agree though characters should have differences in gameplay, but not make someone too different otherwise you get those Knuckles Searching moments that everyone but me seemed to dislike.

Sonic - Plays like normal in Sonic Adventure.

Tails - Slower than Sonic but can access different paths due to flying as well as use tools that Sonic can't (such as computers or vehicles).

Sally - Probably closer to Tails's speed but doesn't have the homing attack and spin jumps.  Has to rely on tools/weapons and actual fighting to defeat enemies.  Focuses on Strategy and stealth to finish a stage rather than speed.  

Bunnie - Plays sort of like the Gamma/Tails stages in Sonic Adventure.  Focuses on blasting enemies and exploring an area.

Antoine - Kinda Sonic Black Knight Style.  Also could have a fear meter that fills when he takes damage.  When it gets full Antoine runs from enemies until he can calm down. 

Rotor - Mech Based like Eggman and Tails in Sonic Adventure 2.