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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself


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#1 King Connor Acorn

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:07 PM

Fellow FUSers, I know that most of you including myself want to see Season 3 completed and aired on TV. I would like to ask for your help coming up with ideas on how to approach the company who currently owns the rights to the SatAM Series, DHX Media, on animating and completing Season 3 to air it on live TV and i would prefer that they use the Sea3on comic that FUS has created as the basis for the Script and Story behind the new Season.

With Your Help We Can Complete Season 3 And SatAM Will Be Reborn!!

Post your Ideas and Comments Below, Get The Word To The Admins, And Spread The Word As Far As You Can!!! I Will also be posting the link to my SatAM Revival Group Page on Facebook if any one wants to join.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:52 PM

Eh... Sorry. I'm just not seeing it.

I know the show means a lot to you and we all would like to see the proper conclusion, but the show hasn't been in production since twenty years ago. And being a licenced show, the show's creations and concept belong to Sega and what they say goes. And at the moment, they're clearly not interested in reviving it. And even if they were, who would be tuning in to watch it? I doubt most of today's kids will be part of that crowd, much less older fans who grew up watching the origonal series.

If the show ever gets the chance to reair, chances are it'll be a complete reboot rather than a continuation. Heck, if you like the show so much, why not put all that effort into making an entirely new show? Just reuse similar concepts and ideas, but with a unique spin/approach to differentiate it from the origonal show that helped inspired it. It's better than banking on an older show that'll likely never come back.

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 10:50 AM

Well it's Worth a Shot:

 

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 12:53 PM

As has been mentioned, SEGA really has no interest in the SatAM continuity, especially now that Boom is SEGA America's darling (which means any prior western continuities are going to be glossed over). It's going to live on in the hearts of fans, though, and we can at least be happy for that.

 

We can also be pleased that, while the Archie comics have their share of issues, they kept several of the key SatAM characters around. Archie's really the only means of having any sort of official blessing for the SatAM universe.

 

Speaking of Archie, it is rather interesting to see how things have changed. While SEGA's indifferent to SatAM nowadays, back when Archie planned to kill off Sally, SEGA actually stepped in and saved her. Mainly because they had plans to use her for merchandise and such that never really materialized, but the point's there.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:30 PM

The ultimate problem comes down to who you would market a third season to.  Right now SatAM fans are a very small portion of the Sonic fanbase in total, which for the most part aren't even the target audience anymore.  

 

The only way they'd ever approve a SatAM Season 3 would be if a network picked up and started re-airing SatAM and it proved to be still popular.  However even that is unlikely right now due to the fact there are a large percentage of Sonic fans that don't like SatAM because it "Doesn't match the Games".  

 

The best hope for SatAM would be a rebooted version that featured more in game elements and updated character designs, which is sort of what Archie is doing with the comic. 



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:26 PM

Not a bad idea Red if i say so myself who wants to get a hold of Archie for this idea cause the Comics make up a rather large portion of the Fanbase it could be our only shot but i will still try to get a hold of DHX Media to try to convince them of finishing SatAM and heck they could play it on the CW in the mornings like Sonic X was if they tried.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 10:28 PM

I agree with LogiTeeka on this one. The chances of SatAM being brought back in any official capacity that is actually faithful to the source material are, realistically, nonexistent. Frankly, I'm glad that Sega has opted to largely ignore this continuity, given the incredibly poor caliber of writing present in most of the games. From what I have seen, the Archie comics are little better; in particular, the amalgam of wasted potential that was the Mecha Sally arc was ample indication that, under Flynn's pen, at least, they would fail to do a proper SatAM continuation justice. This point was only driven further home by the subsequent reboot.

 

Besides, our fandom is fortunate enough to have Sea3on, a continuation so superbly executed that it actually surpasses the original series in terms of writing whilst consistently trouncing the artwork of the official comics. I could not ask for a more definitive successor.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:31 AM

If there ever was going to be a season 3, it died with Sonic Underground. Nobody even knows what SatAM is these days. People think those characters came from the comics.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:47 AM

Frankly, I'm glad that Sega has opted to largely ignore this continuity, given the incredibly poor caliber of writing present in most of the games. From what I have seen, the Archie comics are little better; in particular, the amalgam of wasted potential that was the Mecha Sally arc was ample indication that, under Flynn's pen, at least, they would fail to do a proper SatAM continuation justice. This 

Now this is something I don't understand....

 

Sure the games have some poor writing, though if this is caused by translation or the actual writing is up for debate, and sure the comics, like many long going comics, are mess and nigh impossible to follow.  

 

But so was SatAM.  Season 1 had no connected storylines, causing confusion in the episode order (not helping that the pilot episode was released as the season final).  On top of that Season 2 pretty much takes season 1 and tosses it out the window, Antoine suddenly becomes nothing but a joke losing all potential he held, Sally steals nearly all the freedom fighter's screen time, the whole Sonic Boom episode is uncanonized (King Acorn being able to send Sally the message, or even wearing a cloak), and those terrible shorts.  SatAM may have had some good writing, but honestly it isn't any better then the comics or the games.  



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:39 AM

Your Right Red, considering that the comics were based from SatAM originally, and those shorts were crap they were two of the 3 episodes that i hate of SatAM.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:54 AM

But so was SatAM. Season 1 had no connected storylines, causing confusion in the episode order (not helping that the pilot episode was released as the season final). On top of that Season 2 pretty much takes season 1 and tosses it out the window, Antoine suddenly becomes nothing but a joke losing all potential he held, Sally steals nearly all the freedom fighter's screen time, the whole Sonic Boom episode is uncanonized (King Acorn being able to send Sally the message, or even wearing a cloak), and those terrible shorts. SatAM may have had some good writing, but honestly it isn't any better then the comics or the games.

Production-wise, yeah, it's a major flub. But I do have an in-universe theory as to why nearly everything was different during the second season:

Since King Acorn was reported to have been seen in "Sonic Boom", this suggests that he managed to escape Robotnik's coup upon being dethroned. If so, it's possible that Sonic and Sally's time-traveling adventure in "Blast to the Past" resulted in a paradox in which Robotnik succeeded in capturing the King and banished him into the Void. This could explain why Sally had a more important role during the second season (having to take her "late" father's place), and why Antoine was an even bigger coward than before.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:57 AM

 

But so was SatAM. Season 1 had no connected storylines, causing confusion in the episode order (not helping that the pilot episode was released as the season final). On top of that Season 2 pretty much takes season 1 and tosses it out the window, Antoine suddenly becomes nothing but a joke losing all potential he held, Sally steals nearly all the freedom fighter's screen time, the whole Sonic Boom episode is uncanonized (King Acorn being able to send Sally the message, or even wearing a cloak), and those terrible shorts. SatAM may have had some good writing, but honestly it isn't any better then the comics or the games.

Production-wise, yeah, it's a major flub. But I do have an in-universe theory as to why nearly everything was different during the second season:

Since King Acorn was reported to have been seen in "Sonic Boom", this suggests that he managed to escape Robotnik's coup upon being dethroned. If so, it's possible that Sonic and Sally's time-traveling adventure in "Blast to the Past" resulted in a paradox in which Robotnik succeeded in capturing the King and banished him into the Void. This could explain why Sally had a more important role during the second season (having to take her "late" father's place), and why Antoine was an even bigger coward than before.

 

 

Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:55 AM

 

Frankly, I'm glad that Sega has opted to largely ignore this continuity, given the incredibly poor caliber of writing present in most of the games. From what I have seen, the Archie comics are little better; in particular, the amalgam of wasted potential that was the Mecha Sally arc was ample indication that, under Flynn's pen, at least, they would fail to do a proper SatAM continuation justice. This 

Now this is something I don't understand....

 

Sure the games have some poor writing, though if this is caused by translation or the actual writing is up for debate, and sure the comics, like many long going comics, are mess and nigh impossible to follow.  

 

But so was SatAM.  Season 1 had no connected storylines, causing confusion in the episode order (not helping that the pilot episode was released as the season final).  On top of that Season 2 pretty much takes season 1 and tosses it out the window, Antoine suddenly becomes nothing but a joke losing all potential he held, Sally steals nearly all the freedom fighter's screen time, the whole Sonic Boom episode is uncanonized (King Acorn being able to send Sally the message, or even wearing a cloak), and those terrible shorts.  SatAM may have had some good writing, but honestly it isn't any better then the comics or the games.  

 

 

I realize SatAM is far from perfect. There are a few episodes I can't stand, the shorts among them, and I do my best to pretend Dulcy never existed. That said, what the series did right it did amazingly well. These strengths lay not in the plots of individual episodes, but in the overall setup and feel of the series. The core characters were fantastic and quite complex, particularly in Sally's case, while the top notch art direction helped give the world a strong enough sense of atmosphere to completely sell the two main settings. Perhaps the greatest achievement of the series, however, was that its concepts were presented in such a way that they offered a great deal of thematic subtext. More than any other series, SatAM is a show that made me think, and my love for the series only increased as I analyzed it.

 

If such statements come across as vague, I apologize. I always had a difficult time elucidating my appreciation of the series through normal prose; the fact that I've been largely focused on other series for the past few months doesn't help matters. It's part of the reason I turned to fanfic writing, actually; only through the lens of art do I feel that I can properly convey my thoughts on the matter.

 

At any rate, the games and comics offer no substance whatsoever. The former in particular are largely some of the worst professional attempts at storytelling that I have ever seen, largely because the characters are so shallow and unlikable.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:11 PM

At any rate, the games and comics offer no substance whatsoever. The former in particular are largely some of the worst professional attempts at storytelling that I have ever seen, largely because the characters are so shallow and unlikable.

Well not to keep disagreeing but unfortunately you're wrong there as well.  Shadow and Rouge both have much more interesting and in depth personalities and backstories than either Bunnie or Rotor in SatAM (heck, Chris Thorndyke is a much more developed character than either Bunnie or Rotor).  Now this could be argued that they would have gotten more screen time in Season 3, but there is also just as much chance as they wouldn't have.  Nothing about Season 3 was set in stone, so there is no guarantee either would have had more panel time. 

 

On top of that, Bunnie and Rotor's likability comes from the fact they are "nice".  That's all they got going for them.  Sure Rotor is a tech head and Bunnie is a Southern Bell, but beyond that they don't do anything more than be a named Background character.  They aren't really more likable but rather so underused that you have no reason to dislike them (Unless you include Rotor making Robecca in which case Rotor is more dislikable than Robotnik xD )

 

Antoine's personality on the other hand, was also reduced to be the buttmonkey of everyone else in season 2 as well.  Honestly if I were any of the other Freedom Fighters, I'd have Ant pulled from the team as he is so useless he's more of a hindrance than a benefit.  In Season 1 he's at least charming and while cowardly he has good intentions and is willing to face his fears for the benefit of his love, Princess Sally.  By Season 2 that was replaced that he's pretty much just cowardly, the butt of everyone's jokes, and useless.  He's like the Dr. Smith (Lost in Space) of SatAM....only Doctor Smith was likable because he was a pompous windbag with no redeeming qualities, Ant is supposed be liked but has no reason for anyone to do so.

 

Again I'm not disliking these characters, but rather saying the games and the comics aren't "Worse" then SatAM there just a different style of taste.  It's like comparing chocolate pie to chocolate cake.  You can like one over the other, but it's not because one is better, it's just your personal taste.  

 

 

Production-wise, yeah, it's a major flub. But I do have an in-universe theory as to why nearly everything was different during the second season:


Since King Acorn was reported to have been seen in "Sonic Boom", this suggests that he managed to escape Robotnik's coup upon being dethroned. If so, it's possible that Sonic and Sally's time-traveling adventure in "Blast to the Past" resulted in a paradox in which Robotnik succeeded in capturing the King and banished him into the Void. This could explain why Sally had a more important role during the second season (having to take her "late" father's place), and why Antoine was an even bigger coward than before.

 

This would explain things, but as you said it is a in-universe theory, not actually the production.

 

It's also the best explanation.  I also like to think that act explains why in season 2 both Robotnik and Snively are less stable.  In Season 1 Snively isn't as wild or crazy, and Robotnik tends to be more calm and collected, only showing his rage when he loses.  In Season 2 Robotnik seems more obsessed with defeating Sonic than the other Freedom Fighters, and Snively varies from being a bumbling idiot to being chaotically dangerous.  


Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II

 

No, because the first and third both say it is okay to change History into our favor.

 

In 1 nobody really cares Marty made his family successful, and 3 revolves around Marty going to the past to avoid Doc being killed, just because he doesn't want Doc to be.  



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:09 PM

 

Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II

 

No, because the first and third both say it is okay to change History into our favor.

 

In 1 nobody really cares Marty made his family successful, and 3 revolves around Marty going to the past to avoid Doc being killed, just because he doesn't want Doc to be.  

 

 

But the first & 3rd didnt really change the vents of the world like it had in the 2nd one


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:59 PM

 

 

Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II

 

No, because the first and third both say it is okay to change History into our favor.

 

In 1 nobody really cares Marty made his family successful, and 3 revolves around Marty going to the past to avoid Doc being killed, just because he doesn't want Doc to be.  

 

 

But the first & 3rd didnt really change the vents of the world like it had in the 2nd one

 

Doc's girlfriend was supposed to die.....Marty's dad was a looser....Brother gets a job in an office rather than a pizza pit......the truck.....

 

Nope nothing changed cuz of the other movies. xD



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:01 PM

 

 

 

Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II

 

No, because the first and third both say it is okay to change History into our favor.

 

In 1 nobody really cares Marty made his family successful, and 3 revolves around Marty going to the past to avoid Doc being killed, just because he doesn't want Doc to be.  

 

 

But the first & 3rd didnt really change the vents of the world like it had in the 2nd one

 

Doc's girlfriend was supposed to die.....Marty's dad was a looser....Brother gets a job in an office rather than a pizza pit......the truck.....

 

Nope nothing changed cuz of the other movies. xD

 

 

But compared to what happened in Hill Valley in the 2nd movie those where minor


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 07:12 AM

 

 

 

 

Didnt we learn about how bad Time Paradoxes can be from Back to the Future II

 

No, because the first and third both say it is okay to change History into our favor.

 

In 1 nobody really cares Marty made his family successful, and 3 revolves around Marty going to the past to avoid Doc being killed, just because he doesn't want Doc to be.  

 

 

But the first & 3rd didnt really change the vents of the world like it had in the 2nd one

 

Doc's girlfriend was supposed to die.....Marty's dad was a looser....Brother gets a job in an office rather than a pizza pit......the truck.....

 

Nope nothing changed cuz of the other movies. xD

 

 

But compared to what happened in Hill Valley in the 2nd movie those where minor

 

Yeah.  But still the whole second movie was Time Paradoxes are Bad, yet both the Third and First were all, if they help you, who cares?

 

The the overall movie theme is that time isn't set in stone, your destinies are your own to control. 



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:27 AM

Frankly, I'm glad that Sega has opted to largely ignore this continuity, given the incredibly poor caliber of writing present in most of the games. From what I have seen, the Archie comics are little better; in particular, the amalgam of wasted potential that was the Mecha Sally arc was ample indication that, under Flynn's pen, at least, they would fail to do a proper SatAM continuation justice. This point was only driven further home by the subsequent reboot.

 

I definitely agree with you that the writing in the current games is awful, but, IMHO, the writing in the Archie comics under Ian Flynn (on average) is by far superior to any of the writing in SatAM, season 1 or 2. Just because it isn't on the same continuity as SatAM does not make it bad. It's a different continuity! And if it had been the same continuity, then it would have been met with the same awful fate of other such comic series like Sonic X, where they're not able to make anything happen in the story because it might conflict with what's happening on TV; and then it would have been cancelled at the same time as SatAM, and the SatAM cast would not be reaching new audiences at all.

 

Anyway, Rinzler2010, if you want to see Season 3 animated, I'm afraid Sea3on Animated is your only hope. It is clearly going to be a slow process, if it's going to be made at all... but there is still more hope for that succeeding than an official season 3.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:33 PM

yeah but i could talk to chief and the other admins about seeing if a partnership with DHX could result in having Sea3on animated could be done. if they are willing to do it.






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