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[jtreese]

I  started thinking about satam characters such as Snively and Dulcy can be reintroduced to the new Archie sonic universe. Than I thought about a character that hasn't been introduced to the comics yet: Ari. I started thinking about how he could be introduced here. Here's what I think his new backstory should be:

 

Ari grew up in the high realm of Red Mountain zone. When he was old enough, he decided to travel the world and explore new zones. While visiting Mobotropolis, Robotnik begins his take over, starting with Mobotropolis. He was able to escape to the swamp zone where he would live for years. He eventually began forming his own group of freedom fighters and fought the eggman empire for a short time. He was close to his freedom fighter team so much that he considered them his 2nd family. But tragedy struck when his freedom fighter group were captured, roboticized, and eventually killed. After the death of his freedom fighters, he then decides to work alone because he doesn't want to put anybody else in danger. After Robotnik's supposed "death" from the events of Sonic 3, he decides to travel once again as a solo hero.

 

What characters do you want in this new universe? If so, what would their role be?

[Shadow]

What do you mean reintroduce? He was never in the comics to begin with.

[jtreese]

I mean reintroduce him into Sonic media

[RedAuthar]

I think we have this topic already, but with a broader selection.

[Prince ByTor]

You could also introduce Griff, Dirk (Griff's Warthog 2nd in command), Apollo and Dirk (The Rhino and Bear who are leaders of Freedom Fighter cells), Lazaar, and maybe even the Terrapods, even though his name is never mentioned you could add in the pig cook from Blast to the Past and Warp Sonic that makes Sonic chili dogs, who in my mind is the same character. 

[RedAuthar]

Here it is: http://sonicsatam.co...?showtopic=5927

[LogiTeeka]

The reason why Ari was never introduced to the comics was because Penders thought he'd be a redundant character next to Geoffrey St. John. And for the recent reboot, Ian felt that the character wasn't that interesting to reintroduce. And in a way, I can kinda agree with him.

So when I created my own series, I had to decide a new/unique personality and backstory for Ari. And the end result was a passionate, militaristic leader and a former Army General who sees his guerilla force as the true Freedom Fighters against Robotnik's empire, dismissing the Knothole group as lower-ranking, troublesome teenagers that always get in his way. While harsh and brutal, his efforts are for a good cause; he just gets caught up in his own war.

Another idea I had was Ari possibly being the former husband of Lupe, and their love-child being Griff. But during the Great War, Ari left his family in favor of a military position. Lupe became a traveling shaman/sorceress while Griff ended up running away and joining a gang of thieves.

I haven't added this idea yet because I don't know how I feel about it. Does it sound interesting, or too clichéd?

[RedAuthar]

So when I created my own series, I had to decide a new/unique personality and backstory for Ari. And the end result was a passionate, militaristic leader and a former Army General who sees his guerilla force as the true Freedom Fighters against Robotnik's empire, dismissing the Knothole group as lower-ranking, troublesome teenagers that always get in his way. While harsh and brutal, his efforts are for a good cause; he just gets caught up in his own war.

Well if you ignore the fact that Geoffrey is also a teenager, though usually depicted a few years older than the main Freedom Fighters, you nailed original Geoffrey's personality on the head.  A lot of what Geoffrey did behind the scenes, was manipulate the Freedom Fighters out of the picture so his true Fighters could take over the fight.  

 

Though making Ari a General is a nice touch, because I find it kinda hard to believe that ONLY A GROUP OF UNTRAINED TEENAGERS could resist Robotnik.

 

 

Another idea I had was Ari possibly being the former husband of Lupe, and their love-child being Griff. But during the Great War, Ari left his family in favor of a military position. Lupe became a traveling shaman/sorceress while Griff ended up running away and joining a gang of thieves.

 

Interesting idea, though how old were you portraying Griff and Lupe?  If Griff is the same age as the Freedom Fighters, that would make Lupe, someone generally depicted as close to that age, much older.  Not a problem mind you, but something to consider.  

 

Actually I like the connection.  My only issue would come to how did a Ram and a Wolf make a Goat?  Course depending how they're depicted in your story that issue could be baseless. XP

[LogiTeeka]

Well if you ignore the fact that Geoffrey is also a teenager, though usually depicted a few years older than the main Freedom Fighters, you nailed original Geoffrey's personality on the head. A lot of what Geoffrey did behind the scenes, was manipulate the Freedom Fighters out of the picture so his true Fighters could take over the fight.

Though making Ari a General is a nice touch, because I find it kinda hard to believe that ONLY A GROUP OF UNTRAINED TEENAGERS could resist Robotnik.

Actually, it was Abraham Tower that was the main source of insparation. And I wouldn't say Ari was so much as "manipulating" them, but rather brushing them aside so that they don't get in his way.

Interesting idea, though how old were you portraying Griff and Lupe? If Griff is the same age as the Freedom Fighters, that would make Lupe, someone generally depicted as close to that age, much older. Not a problem mind you, but something to consider.

Actually I like the connection. My only issue would come to how did a Ram and a Wolf make a Goat? Course depending how they're depicted in your story that issue could be baseless. XP

I always thought Lupe was an adult, considering she was a mother of two in the old comic continuity. Even during her first appearance in SatAM, she didn't seem as young as the other Freedom Fighters.

As for the species thing, yeah... That was one of the problems I had with the idea. I guess one could argue that sheep and goats are distantly related or something, but that seems like a stretch.

[Mike Arcade]

Personally, I think Ari should be in Archie Sonic considering SatAM Characters are up for use, I seriously expect to see Lupe and Dulcy at some point.

 

However recently I've reading Penders and Bollers work (why, i have no idea) and I discovered something very trippy. In issue 113 it introduces the backstory in Archie Sonic on how The Freedom Fighters met The Wolfpack, which sounds cool but the artwork isn't that impressive, that and I think it might have ripped off SatAM's episode of The Wolfpack, I'm not sure.

 

Anyway, at the very end Sally is contacted by other Freedom Fighter Factions, and on the very last page has artwork of Sonic, Sally, Lupe, and 3 VERY familiar faces, those being of the two other Freedom Fighters from The Doomsday Project and while the coloring is wrong, you can clearly tell that it's Ari!

 

Yes, Ari was ACTUALLY IN ARCHIE SONIC, but never mentioned by name and that is all we ever see of him. This topic's title literally fits now doesn't it?

[RedAuthar]

Personally, I think Ari should be in Archie Sonic considering SatAM Characters are up for use, I seriously expect to see Lupe and Dulcy at some point.

 

However recently I've reading Penders and Bollers work (why, i have no idea) and I discovered something very trippy. In issue 113 it introduces the backstory in Archie Sonic on how The Freedom Fighters met The Wolfpack, which sounds cool but the artwork isn't that impressive, that and I think it might have ripped off SatAM's episode of The Wolfpack, I'm not sure.

 

Anyway, at the very end Sally is contacted by other Freedom Fighter Factions, and on the very last page has artwork of Sonic, Sally, Lupe, and 3 VERY familiar faces, those being of the two other Freedom Fighters from The Doomsday Project and while the coloring is wrong, you can clearly tell that it's Ari!

 

Yes, Ari was ACTUALLY IN ARCHIE SONIC, but never mentioned by name and that is all we ever see of him. This topic's title literally fits now doesn't it?

Actually yes, the issue was ripped right out of the cartoon.

 

Lupe's original appearance specifically stated to watch the cartoon to see how they met, because at that time, the comic considered itself a continuation.  

However after many contradictions kept coming forth by writers, they later decided that Archie Sonic was its own universe, so they ripped the plot of Lupe's first appearance in the in the show and redid it as a comic. 

 

They also did the Gopher Highwayman one.

[Prince ByTor]

Personally, I think Ari should be in Archie Sonic considering SatAM Characters are up for use, I seriously expect to see Lupe and Dulcy at some point.

 

However recently I've reading Penders and Bollers work (why, i have no idea) and I discovered something very trippy. In issue 113 it introduces the backstory in Archie Sonic on how The Freedom Fighters met The Wolfpack, which sounds cool but the artwork isn't that impressive, that and I think it might have ripped off SatAM's episode of The Wolfpack, I'm not sure.

 

Anyway, at the very end Sally is contacted by other Freedom Fighter Factions, and on the very last page has artwork of Sonic, Sally, Lupe, and 3 VERY familiar faces, those being of the two other Freedom Fighters from The Doomsday Project and while the coloring is wrong, you can clearly tell that it's Ari!

 

Yes, Ari was ACTUALLY IN ARCHIE SONIC, but never mentioned by name and that is all we ever see of him. This topic's title literally fits now doesn't it?

 

Excellent catch, that definitely is Ari along with Apollo and Dirk. So all three have been in the comic. I agree, the artwork was definitely wanting.