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[Louis the Hedgehog]

Looks like nuclear energy has a future after all. One that is far safer and cheaper than nuclear energy of today. It's called a LFTR (Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor).

And the very worst thing that can happen is that the radioactive materials enter the drainage tank and the reaction stops.

[ILOVEVHS]

I'll tell you what the future of nuclear energy is:

(Choose one)
A: Humanity mutates into different species and/or zombies.
B: Machines rule the earth, while humanity attempts to resist.
C: Adventure Time with Finn and Jake.
D: WE'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD.

[RedAuthar]

I'll tell you what the future of nuclear energy is:

(Choose one)
A: Humanity mutates into different species and/or zombies.
B: Machines rule the earth, while humanity attempts to resist.
C: Adventure Time with Finn and Jake.
D: WE'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD.

To be fair, Nuclear energy is not all super dangerous.  Yes it is dangerous, but the media has blown it's danger out of proportion.  

[MagentaDrake]

 

I'll tell you what the future of nuclear energy is:

(Choose one)
A: Humanity mutates into different species and/or zombies.
B: Machines rule the earth, while humanity attempts to resist.
C: Adventure Time with Finn and Jake.
D: WE'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD.

To be fair, Nuclear energy is not all super dangerous.  Yes it is dangerous, but the media has blown it's danger out of proportion.  

 

Nothing creates fear like bad press

[Uncle Ben]

Its only dangerous if someone screws up (i'm looking at you USSR.)

[Prince ByTor]

Its only dangerous if someone screws up (i'm looking at you USSR.)

 

I'm looking at you USA: (Three Mile Island, Hanford Washington Downwinders, Santa Susana California Sodium Reactor, etc...).

[RedAuthar]

Its only dangerous if someone screws up (i'm looking at you USSR.)

I'm looking at you USA: (Three Mile Island, Hanford Washington Downwinders, Santa Susana California Sodium Reactor, etc...).

Don't forget Godzilla.

[ILOVEVHS]

Its only dangerous if someone screws up (i'm looking at you USSR.)

I'm looking at you USA: (Three Mile Island, Hanford Washington Downwinders, Santa Susana California Sodium Reactor, etc...).

Don't forget Godzilla.

Godzilla was Japanese. We made Godzilla In Name Only.

[RedAuthar]

Uh Godzilla the Monster came about because of nuclear radiation. Because the US bombed Japan.

[ILOVEVHS]

Oh right.

[furrykef]

I'm looking at you USA: (Three Mile Island, Hanford Washington Downwinders, Santa Susana California Sodium Reactor, etc...).

The first and third were many years ago and we've learned from them. The second one seems to have more to do with atomic tests than nuclear power.

[Prince ByTor]

 

I'm looking at you USA: (Three Mile Island, Hanford Washington Downwinders, Santa Susana California Sodium Reactor, etc...).

The first and third were many years ago and we've learned from them. The second one seems to have more to do with atomic tests than nuclear power.

 

 

Three Mile Island happened in my lifetime, so it's still very relevant and as for the Hanford Downwinders it concerned a group of nuclear reactors releasing radioactive material into the air, water, and earth. While those reactors were primarily used for enriching uranium for weapons use, it was still the same kind of reactor that would be used for power generation. The multiple releases from Hanford have been both intentional and accidental, which occurred throughout the entire time the site was used.

"Hanford released radioactive materials into the air, water and soil, releases which largely resulted form the routine site’s operation, though some were also due to accidents and intentional releases."

[furrykef]

Three Mile Island happened in my lifetime, so it's still very relevant

It's not the time period that makes it relevant. It's whether it can happen again. In the United States, at least, I'm fairly confident the answer is no. Nuclear power plants aren't run by cowboys the way they once were.

Let's also not forget that coal power also costs lives every day and nobody seems to be complaining about that.

[Prince ByTor]

 

Three Mile Island happened in my lifetime, so it's still very relevant

It's not the time period that makes it relevant. It's whether it can happen again. In the United States, at least, I'm fairly confident the answer is no. Nuclear power plants aren't run by cowboys the way they once were.

Let's also not forget that coal power also costs lives every day and nobody seems to be complaining about that.

 

 

I hope you're right, but history has a habit of repeating itself especially when ignored. Usually all of the great man-made disasters come off of cutting corners or ignoring safety, then after the inevitable disaster happens the people band together and fix it, but after a while it happens all over again.

The problem with atomic power is 1. waste, and 2. it's very toxic if released by accident or otherwise. Even in the best circumstances a reactor can have an accident, and if a reactor goes into meltdown, (like at Fukushima, which were American made reactors operated in a first-world country), it has consequences that wastes entire regions and affects the entire Earth both in the air and water and can take centuries to clean up if not a millennium before the area is fully restored, unlike if there is an accident at most other types of power generation plants.

For the last century and a half man has acted like resources are infinite and that humanity can endlessly expand, but we are finding out that there are consequences. The truth is instead of playing with something that is not completely controllable for power generation we really need to start looking into conservation rather than endless expansion, as Alexandr Solzhenitsyn said:

"A dozen maggots can’t go on and on gnawing the same apple forever; that if the earth is a finite object, then its expanses and resources are finite also, and the endless, infinite progress dinned into our heads by the dreamers of the Enlightenment cannot be accomplished on it . . . All that ‘endless progress’ turned out to be an insane, ill-considered, furious dash into a blind alley. A civilization greedy for ‘perpetual progress’ has now choked and is on its last legs."

[Uncle Ben]

Fukushima is the reason why you dont build Nuclear Power plants near major fault lines

[Prince ByTor]

Fukushima is the reason why you dont build Nuclear Power plants near major fault lines

 

And do you think that they would've thought of that when they built it? Again, now we are fixing that problem, and now how many years until the next nuclear disaster "we didn't foresee"?

[Uncle Ben]

Either Underground (like in a mountain) or in a place where statistically would be ideal (no fault lines, major weather disaster, etc.)

[chief]

Nuclear power is probably your safest and cleanest power source..At least of right now.  Well that and Hydro power...Or Wind I guess...Point being for main stream power it is safe.

HOWEVER there are issues with it still..One example is what to do with the waste?  Currently one of the big things North America does is bury it in the Canadian Shield.. Russia..Well I dunno what they do now but they use to just toss it out into the ocean in concrete containers.. Cause yeah that won't come to bite us in the ass later. 

[Uncle Ben]

HOWEVER there are issues with it still..One example is what to do with the waste?  Currently one of the big things North America does is bury it in the Canadian Shield.. Russia..Well I dunno what they do now but they use to just toss it out into the ocean in concrete containers.. Cause yeah that won't come to bite us in the ass later. 

 

Russia tosses it in a lake

[TheRedStranger]

Either Underground (like in a mountain) or in a place where statistically would be ideal (no fault lines, major weather disaster, etc.)

 

They do that...and it still leaks into the aquifers and water.