Mmkay, I thought this would be interesting, considering that most people here love the SatAM series (duh). Most people have bashed about the other Sonic shows, but which one exactly just makes you ashamed for being a Sonic fan?
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog....not my vote for least favorite. Even now at my twenties I find this show to be funny. As a kid, I would ask my parents to tape this everyday so I could watch 'em all later on the weekends. And it wasn't like kids would just get a cheap laugh out of this, either. The "Sonic Says" bits at the end seemed helpful (I recall an episode that actually taught kids on what they should do in case they ever get molested. Now there's something we won't see in cartoons today!). Plus, the episodes from here make EXCELLENT youtube poops.
Sonic the Hedgehog The Movie...I know this isn't a tv show in the US, but I believe it was in Japan. Anyways....hahahah! This was a mind trip. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. I felt like I was on drugs while watching this entire thing. I didn't understand some of it, like why Mobius consisted of floating islands, or why Sonic lived in a crashed commercial airplane...or why a human girl has a tail sticking out of the top of her ass. But if you look up "Sonic Bastardized" on youtube by Psyguy, you will see that he has done quite well dubbing half of the movie so far.
Honestly, I've only seen about 4 episodes of Sonic Underground, the ones with Knuckles the Echidna. My feelings were mixed about it, but I don't know much about it, so I can't say if I like it or not.
Sonic X....I LIKE THIS THE LEAST! I don't know where to start, exactly. I've watched the Japanese version of this show, not bad...but not a show I'd get addicted to. But thanks to 4Kidz in their infinite wisdom.....we have shit.
Have fun with this poll, and let's hear your opinions.
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Which Sonic Show Do You Like The Least?
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 08:27 PM
Sonic X is god-awful. what's even worse is that yuji naka himself was the director for it. shows you just how bad it is. terrible storylines with so many plotholes that even Ian "Plothole" Flynn would be in heaven... the graphics are nice, but graphics aren't everything (example: Windows Vista). The characters have NO depth and are one-dimensional (and that's pushing it). basically, it's trying to put Sonic Adventure I and II onto the television, and it fails miserably.
to put it short: WARNING: DO NOT WATCH! CONTAINS POISONOUS AMOUNTS OF SUCKAGE!
My rating: / 5 for suckage. (or, 0 / 5 sonics )
Sonic Underground was nice, but lame. Nice becuase overall, the storylines were interesting and the characters had depth, but lame from the music. trying to say it "had the potential to be SatAM's third season" is unfair. that is a HUGE act to top. like asking me to build something bigger and better than the empire state building, using only sticks and sand. not gonna be easy
It's nice to see Jaleel White back, and doing THREE characters this time (that had to be hard on his voice *and* mind, trying to keep track of who he's acting as... that should show how much talent he has).
Upside: yay! knuckles debuts!
Downside: Wot, no Tails?
My Rating: / 5
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog... the very definition of controlled chaos. 30 minutes of pure fun per episode. terrible storylines and characters that look and act horribly, but it's executed properly, and that's what saves the show. still worth a look today, even if it didn't exactly look great.
My Rating: {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif / 5
Sonic the Movie... that was a failed two-part pilot for a television show. perhaps it's best that it never got off the ground? (much like Bubsy the Bobcat's failed pilot, with rob paulsen as the famous feline {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif). it had an interesting plot, but tried to rely too heavily on the video games. basically, an early Sonic X, with some SatAM elements thrown in (robotnik with actually cool machines, Sonic getting his rear handed to him by Metal Sonic, Knuckles and tails trying to act properly (and failing) around the president's daughter... oh well.
My Rating: {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif / 5
to put it short: WARNING: DO NOT WATCH! CONTAINS POISONOUS AMOUNTS OF SUCKAGE!
My rating: / 5 for suckage. (or, 0 / 5 sonics )
Sonic Underground was nice, but lame. Nice becuase overall, the storylines were interesting and the characters had depth, but lame from the music. trying to say it "had the potential to be SatAM's third season" is unfair. that is a HUGE act to top. like asking me to build something bigger and better than the empire state building, using only sticks and sand. not gonna be easy
It's nice to see Jaleel White back, and doing THREE characters this time (that had to be hard on his voice *and* mind, trying to keep track of who he's acting as... that should show how much talent he has).
Upside: yay! knuckles debuts!
Downside: Wot, no Tails?
My Rating: / 5
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog... the very definition of controlled chaos. 30 minutes of pure fun per episode. terrible storylines and characters that look and act horribly, but it's executed properly, and that's what saves the show. still worth a look today, even if it didn't exactly look great.
My Rating: {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif / 5
Sonic the Movie... that was a failed two-part pilot for a television show. perhaps it's best that it never got off the ground? (much like Bubsy the Bobcat's failed pilot, with rob paulsen as the famous feline {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif). it had an interesting plot, but tried to rely too heavily on the video games. basically, an early Sonic X, with some SatAM elements thrown in (robotnik with actually cool machines, Sonic getting his rear handed to him by Metal Sonic, Knuckles and tails trying to act properly (and failing) around the president's daughter... oh well.
My Rating: {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/sonic.gif / 5
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 03:46 AM
Well it's probably between Sonic X and Sonic Anime. Probably the later. I could stomach Sonic X. My biggest problem was its lack of originality from the games. in many of it's story arcs. But to see the cast live under one roof and behave seem a little closer in that sense was a little better. I can also see how Sonic X could really bring people unfamiliar to Sonic into the fandom. I just as someone whose always been into Sonic stuff didn't really find it appealing. Sonic Anime... I didn't like the premise, nor do I see it fulfilling the purpose of reeling in newer fans. The only thing I liked is that they new how to write more of an edge/attitude to Sonic in that anime compared to Sonic X or the games.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 04:38 AM
Sonic X. Good Lord, I gave it a chance. I was excited to see it but it's SO BORING. I changed the channel every time i tried to watch. All of the characters were unlikable to me too. Japanese dub didn't mean a difference to me. Still bored.
My favorite is the Sonic Anime.
Plenty of things for me to like about it, and I enjoyed it's quirkiness. In fact, I'll watch it again soon.
My favorite is the Sonic Anime.
Plenty of things for me to like about it, and I enjoyed it's quirkiness. In fact, I'll watch it again soon.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 04:47 AM
I don't even need to consider that, X is by far the worst. SU may have had it's flaws - too many to count - but I find X even more painful to watch and at times. It's less about Sonic and more about Chris Thorndyke. The 4Kids VA's and scores make it even worse, I've seen parts from the Japanese dub which almost makes X seem pretty good. But that doesn't excuse such things as the Baseball Episode and the whole of the third season, which at times is just so batshit ridiculous that riffing it is somewhat medicinal. Not to mention Sonic doing jack shit every episode and turning up at the last minute for the Ultimate Deus Ex Machina One-Hit Killâ„¢.
SU was really really bad, but when it originally aired I actually loved it as a kid, not as much as SatAM or AoSTH, but I still really liked it. The only thing stopping me from voting for SU is because there's still a nostalgic part of me that's fond of it. Well, that and X.
SU was really really bad, but when it originally aired I actually loved it as a kid, not as much as SatAM or AoSTH, but I still really liked it. The only thing stopping me from voting for SU is because there's still a nostalgic part of me that's fond of it. Well, that and X.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 10:30 AM
I disliked SU the most. It seemed like a cheap knock off of SatAM=/ I personally think Sonic X and SatAM though they had their funny parts had more mature themes than the other shows as well. Sonic X only really got more mature in theme at about the last season, but SatAM seemed to be mature throughout (especially in the final season as well). I don't know which I liked more. I'm kinda for SatAM and Sonic X.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 02:11 PM
Sonic the Movie is rather stupid to me, but for some reason I do like the banter between Eggman and Sera O>O He's such a lecherous old dog. Tails dubbed voice is so laughably bad.
SU isn't horrible, I kind of like Sleet. But Robotnik didn't seem very menacing. It would've been much better without a song per episode, and an actual female doing Sonia's voice. The idea of the tyrant enslaving the people via laws and taxes with punishment via roboticization wasn't too bad. It kind of reminds me of a techno version of Robin Hood's ebil Prince John. Some of the character designs were kind of...strange.
AOSTH is granted, very silly, but I actually like it. Robotnik and his dumb-bots amuse me, I even enjoy the stupid animation and the animator's apparent love of drawing buttcracks. O>O
Sonic X I really haven't seen too much to judge. However I did see the aforementioned 'baseball' episode which was quite horrible. It was almost SO horrible that it was great, ala so many of the MST3k movies are.
SO I GUESS.... Sonic X gets my vote. Cuz... it has Shadow in it. 'Nuff said.
SU isn't horrible, I kind of like Sleet. But Robotnik didn't seem very menacing. It would've been much better without a song per episode, and an actual female doing Sonia's voice. The idea of the tyrant enslaving the people via laws and taxes with punishment via roboticization wasn't too bad. It kind of reminds me of a techno version of Robin Hood's ebil Prince John. Some of the character designs were kind of...strange.
AOSTH is granted, very silly, but I actually like it. Robotnik and his dumb-bots amuse me, I even enjoy the stupid animation and the animator's apparent love of drawing buttcracks. O>O
Sonic X I really haven't seen too much to judge. However I did see the aforementioned 'baseball' episode which was quite horrible. It was almost SO horrible that it was great, ala so many of the MST3k movies are.
SO I GUESS.... Sonic X gets my vote. Cuz... it has Shadow in it. 'Nuff said.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 03:19 PM
I haven't seen all of them and have only seen a little of Sonic Underground, so I can't judge very well. I can say that I used to watch AoStH at 6 AM every morning (even though I knew back then that it was way inferior to SatAM), eventually came to loathe it with a passion... now I've come to think of it as rather stupid but relatively harmless. I think it still suffocates a bit on its own cheesiness, though.
As I said before, I've only seen a little of SU. I was in high school when I heard about it -- I'd brought some of my old Archie Sonic comics to school and people told me about it -- but it didn't inspire much reaction in me one way or the other. I only watched one or two episodes and stopped watching because I couldn't bring myself to care. (And yeah, I didn't really care for the whole music thing either.)
Sonic the Movie... I HATE THAT THING. Back when that old 5-ep SatAM DVD came out, I went to the store to look for it, found they didn't have it (I think I went there before it was actually out or something), and brought home Sonic the Movie on VHS. I figured what the hell, may as well give it a shot, and I had an online friend who liked it. For reasons that I cannot fathom, I figured it would be a good idea to pop in the tape in the living room with my grandmother and uncle watching. (I didn't specifically ask them to watch, they just happened to be in the room at the time and I didn't want to watch it on our smaller TV.) My uncle walked out on it... my grandmother sat through it all, but only because she didn't have anything else to do, and when it was over she told me, "You really need to grow up, Kev." She couldn't even understand the idea that this wasn't anything close to what I wanted to buy in the first place and I was already more embarrassed than she was by it. So not only was it a bad movie, it humiliated me.
Highlight of Sonic the Movie: when the translation company edited out Sonic giving the finger, but did so by having him lift, if I recall correctly, the ring finger. It doesn't make any sense and it still looks like he's giving the finger if you're not paying attention. If they were going that far with it, wouldn't it have been easier and better to just edit out the finger entirely?
As for Sonic X... I can't give a fair critique of it because I've never seen it, although I already know I hate how 4Kids handled it. (Seriously, they went so far as to reduce Rouge's bust. That's just weird.) Given the track record of the other continuities I'm familiar with, my guess is I'll think it sucks, though.
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As I said before, I've only seen a little of SU. I was in high school when I heard about it -- I'd brought some of my old Archie Sonic comics to school and people told me about it -- but it didn't inspire much reaction in me one way or the other. I only watched one or two episodes and stopped watching because I couldn't bring myself to care. (And yeah, I didn't really care for the whole music thing either.)
Sonic the Movie... I HATE THAT THING. Back when that old 5-ep SatAM DVD came out, I went to the store to look for it, found they didn't have it (I think I went there before it was actually out or something), and brought home Sonic the Movie on VHS. I figured what the hell, may as well give it a shot, and I had an online friend who liked it. For reasons that I cannot fathom, I figured it would be a good idea to pop in the tape in the living room with my grandmother and uncle watching. (I didn't specifically ask them to watch, they just happened to be in the room at the time and I didn't want to watch it on our smaller TV.) My uncle walked out on it... my grandmother sat through it all, but only because she didn't have anything else to do, and when it was over she told me, "You really need to grow up, Kev." She couldn't even understand the idea that this wasn't anything close to what I wanted to buy in the first place and I was already more embarrassed than she was by it. So not only was it a bad movie, it humiliated me.
Highlight of Sonic the Movie: when the translation company edited out Sonic giving the finger, but did so by having him lift, if I recall correctly, the ring finger. It doesn't make any sense and it still looks like he's giving the finger if you're not paying attention. If they were going that far with it, wouldn't it have been easier and better to just edit out the finger entirely?
As for Sonic X... I can't give a fair critique of it because I've never seen it, although I already know I hate how 4Kids handled it. (Seriously, they went so far as to reduce Rouge's bust. That's just weird.) Given the track record of the other continuities I'm familiar with, my guess is I'll think it sucks, though.
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Well, let me break it down.
Sonic the Movie: Rather silly, but I liked it, for it had Metal Sonic in it as well as Badniks from the games, and had its own comedic moments here and there. Sure it was confusing as hell, but I can live with that.
Sonic Underground: Beautiful colors and smooth animation and designs went in the favor of this, and like MistressAli said the concept of Robotnik being a more traditional dictator and using Roboticization as punishment was a good enough idea. Unfortunately Robotnik sort of lacked a certain level of menace, and then there was Sonia's voice...
AoStH: Heh, the first Sonic toon I saw, and I still have a soft spot for it.
Sonic X: To be frank, this is hte only Sonic show to date that I've honestly disliked. I gave it a chance, I stayed patient while watching it... but it never got better. It was only SLIGHTLY better in japanese, but only slightly. There's just so much with it that went wrong.... and that DEFINATELY includes the inclusion of Chris. I mean, I'm the guy who in theory doesn't actively hate any chars, but I was sorely tempted with Chris.
Sonic the Movie: Rather silly, but I liked it, for it had Metal Sonic in it as well as Badniks from the games, and had its own comedic moments here and there. Sure it was confusing as hell, but I can live with that.
Sonic Underground: Beautiful colors and smooth animation and designs went in the favor of this, and like MistressAli said the concept of Robotnik being a more traditional dictator and using Roboticization as punishment was a good enough idea. Unfortunately Robotnik sort of lacked a certain level of menace, and then there was Sonia's voice...
AoStH: Heh, the first Sonic toon I saw, and I still have a soft spot for it.
Sonic X: To be frank, this is hte only Sonic show to date that I've honestly disliked. I gave it a chance, I stayed patient while watching it... but it never got better. It was only SLIGHTLY better in japanese, but only slightly. There's just so much with it that went wrong.... and that DEFINATELY includes the inclusion of Chris. I mean, I'm the guy who in theory doesn't actively hate any chars, but I was sorely tempted with Chris.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 08:47 PM
I'm not yet in a position to vote either.
Satam I loved from the moment I first began watching, and even those bad episodes about Antoine are still easier for me to sit through than any other Sonic show.
Sonic X: I haven't watched very far into, but I'm finding it entirely silly for a lot of the reasons in the posts above. The pilot episode was enjoyable, mostly because Amy Rose is hardly present, and I did especially like Sonic's attack on Chaos Control. I also found the formula one chase scene held my attention despite how silly was the idea of a police department dishing out funding for a high-speed pursuit team when the leader admits there's very little need for them at all (plus the cars and uniforms should have been in police colours). After the pilot episode I've found nothing at all worth admiring in this series. Yes - I have to agree that on what I've seen so far, Chris Thorndyke is given far more on-screen time than Sonic.
AoStH: Cheap animation, cheap storylines and one-dimensional characters. It's only redeeming factor was Jaleel White perfoming Sonic.
Sonic Underground: I started watching the pilot episode, but it just didn't do it for me. Knowing that Tails would not be featured was another loss. I can't understand why they didn't just resume Satam, unless it was a problem arranging contracts for the voice cast.
Sonic the Movie: Haven't seen.
Satam I loved from the moment I first began watching, and even those bad episodes about Antoine are still easier for me to sit through than any other Sonic show.
Sonic X: I haven't watched very far into, but I'm finding it entirely silly for a lot of the reasons in the posts above. The pilot episode was enjoyable, mostly because Amy Rose is hardly present, and I did especially like Sonic's attack on Chaos Control. I also found the formula one chase scene held my attention despite how silly was the idea of a police department dishing out funding for a high-speed pursuit team when the leader admits there's very little need for them at all (plus the cars and uniforms should have been in police colours). After the pilot episode I've found nothing at all worth admiring in this series. Yes - I have to agree that on what I've seen so far, Chris Thorndyke is given far more on-screen time than Sonic.
AoStH: Cheap animation, cheap storylines and one-dimensional characters. It's only redeeming factor was Jaleel White perfoming Sonic.
Sonic Underground: I started watching the pilot episode, but it just didn't do it for me. Knowing that Tails would not be featured was another loss. I can't understand why they didn't just resume Satam, unless it was a problem arranging contracts for the voice cast.
Sonic the Movie: Haven't seen.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 08:53 PM
QUOTE ("Sebastian":2adnezq7)
I can't understand why they didn't just resume Satam, unless it was a problem arranging contracts for the voice cast.
My understanding is that DiC did want to resume SatAM, but there was some legal mumbo-jumbo that got in the way... not with the voice actors, but with the licensing. You might recall that one reason we didn't get a DVD until last year was that nobody could figure out who the hell owned what rights to the show. As long as the people who own the rights don't care about it (if the owners can't even figure out who owns what, it's obvious they don't care), nothing gets done. DiC probably just found it easier to license a new show with a similar concept than to save SatAM, and I guess I can't really blame them.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:39 AM
remember: there were many hands in SatAM:
- ABC-Capital Cities Broadcasting (ABC network), for broadcasting SatAM
- Disney (bought ABC-Capital Cities Broadcasting in 1995)
- Buena Vista Television Distribution (for distributing disney and DiC stuff, owned in full by Disney)
- DiC (for making it)
- Sega (For licensing it out)
- Sonic Team (for creating Sonic in the first place)
- ABC-Capital Cities Broadcasting (ABC network), for broadcasting SatAM
- Disney (bought ABC-Capital Cities Broadcasting in 1995)
- Buena Vista Television Distribution (for distributing disney and DiC stuff, owned in full by Disney)
- DiC (for making it)
- Sega (For licensing it out)
- Sonic Team (for creating Sonic in the first place)
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 10:13 AM
I could be completely wrong but wasn't the first blow towards SatAM's revival because SEGA wanted the show to involve music? I'm sure if it wasn't the main reason it was definitely one of them.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:09 PM
i'm pretty sure that decision was DiC's, but i could be wrong. it would make sense, as that was when sega was at the height of their Stupidity Phase...
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 10:49 PM
Sonic X takes the cake, but Underground comes pretty close.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 03:04 PM
I hated Sonic Underground because it was literately a parody of SatAM.Everytime I started to almost enjoy the show they would start singing.And not just any singing...as in singing thats more shitty than those god awful juke box spinoff tapes Disney pumped out back in the 90's of Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 03:24 PM
QUOTE ("Shadow":8ijijrli)
I hated Sonic Underground because it was literately a parody of SatAM.Everytime I started to almost enjoy the show they would start singing.And not just any singing...as in singing thats more shitty than those god awful juke box spinoff tapes Disney pumped out back in the 90's of Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin.
That's the same reason I hated SU. The whole singing bit was just...what the fuck? It was completely out of place.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 03:42 PM
sonic's the fastest thing alive... why the hell would he need an old, beat-up mini-van anyway?
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QUOTE ("RingtailedFox":2cdor7rh)
sonic's the fastest thing alive... why the hell would he need an old, beat-up mini-van anyway?
Same reason Shadow needs guns and vehicles. Apparently he's too lazy to use his legs or powers anymore.
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