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@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:25 PM)

Say, who made the cute picture of Beaver Chief?

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:24 PM)

Finally!

@  RedMenace : (21 July 2015 - 05:02 PM)

Woooo! The site's back up! Three cheers for Kef!


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What We Need To Start Considering Or At Least Doing.

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#1 bwrosas

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

Used Dragon Naturally Speaker for this :

 

 

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Monday, October 14, 2013
start time : 3:08 PM
 
Now I did another version of this earlier today, and what I'm about to say is something that as fans we need to start considering or at least doing.
 
Ever since the New York comic convention last year. And throughout all of 2013 so far, this fan base has been divided on the character redesigns.  Some love them, some are okay with them, and others just flat out disdain them.  Well I can understand that, but I believe we should focus more outside of the redesigns and/or at least talk about what potentially could happen as a result of this soft reboot.
 
With the redesigns, I can understand that the main problem with them, is not how they look, but how the personalities will portray them.  I believe as a longtime fan, that the personalities of the characters will not change whatsoever, they might have a tweak here and there, but if Ian Flynn says that the characters will be who they are as we know them, then whether we want to believe him or not, we will just have to wait it out and for right now, take his word on it.
 
But as I mentioned above, we need to focus more on what could happen afterwards.  For example, what kind of character development will we get from the freedom fighters, once they come in contact with Nicole.  I mean one of the major things that fans are indeed worried about and understandably so, is Antoine and Bunnie's marriage.  Will it still exist?, Or will be null and void?  You see that is something that I am intrigued about.  Because if Ian Flynn decides to make the marriage and act like it never happened, and possibly the relationship of Antoine and Bunnie as well, to me that would be the wrong thing to do.  Because out of all the romantic couples and relationships in the comic's history, you don't take one that through all the trials and errors and all the ups and downs that several writers took them through for 127 issues and that alone was built up to the marriage in 174, and then add on the 60 issues that came afterwards, plus the four sonic universe issues that they were a part of, and you would be throwing away up to about 190 issues of story and character development.  That is what Ian Flynn would be doing with the Antoine/Bunnie relationship and marriage, just throwing out almost 200 issues worth of character and story development.
 
And that's just one thing that could change as a result of this soft reboot.   Another could be Fiona Fox.  Now I get that storyline wise, she's in the anti-world, but who's to say she still won't be affected.  Think about it, a majority of fans were upset that Ian Flynn turned her bad/antihero in 172, for as some put it no real reason.  Well let's look at it this way, it appears that everything that's occurring in CTC, is taking place between 225 and 230, and perhaps even before that.  And one must wonder, if perhaps Fiona might be softly rebooted back onto the side of good.  That's another thing that I would be intrigued about.
 
And hey, what about factions?  Who's to say that the sandblast freedom fighters and Baron Beauregard's dark Legion didn't switch sides.  Who's to say that the sandblast freedom fighters are not now the sandblast egg Army and who's to say Baron Beauregard's dark egg Legion are  not now freedom fighters.  
 
You see it's stuff like that, that we should be discussing more then our love/hatred for the main cast redesigns.
 
And hey speaking of the main cast, whose to say that fan service will not be part of this soft reboot.  Ian Flynn has proven that he can do just that, heck the comic as a whole throughout its history has proven that.  Who's to say it won't happen more so in the soft reboot.  
I mean, if you want a good example of what potential fan service on a romantic scale could be delivered to us courtesy of this soft reboot, how about Tails/Amy, hey with this soft reboot it could happen.  I mean there are some, if not a majority of fans that want to see Tails have a girlfriend.  And from what they've said about Ian Flynn, perhaps Tails might get hooked up with Amy.  But on the other hand, there's three more choices, they are, Mina, and this is due to the future story arc, as well as  possibly a rebooted and good Fiona Fox, or perhaps what has become the biggest fan supported relationship for our two tailed friend, none other then Nicole.  Now I know some a you might raise your eyebrows about that, but apparently it's one of the most popular fan supported pairings in the Sonic fanbase.  And if Ian Flynn wants to provide some fan service to the fans,, who knows he might make it happen due to this being a soft rebooted continuity.
 
Again it's stuff like this, that I believe we should focus more on, then just the character redesigns.  Because whether we want to admit or not, it seems that these redesigns are here for the long haul.  So I suggest as fans we focus more on the aftereffects of CTC more than the character redesigns.
 
Because when one thinks about it folks, if we keep complaining about the character redesigns, we lose focus on what's really important and that's the story and the continuity that goes with it.  Besides let's remember one thing, nothing last forever.  So we cannot say that these redesigns will be here until the comic is eventually canceled, because when I say long haul, I look at more of a year to two-year maybe three year run, before we get another redesign or continuity event that switches things back to the way they were or changes them more so.
 
So again, I ask as a fellow longtime Sonic fan, let's please try to focus on more of what could happen storyline/continuity wise, then what the redesigns of the characters will look like.
 
I have more to say in my alternate version, which I'm sure a lot of you know of and a lot of you know where to find it, and if you like take your time with it.  But that's all I have to say on the matter right now.
 
God bless and take care.
 
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#2 Mike Arcade

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:07 AM

I personally didn't mind the redesigns at all, though I do understand the worry that if the characters are gonna be mostly the same, which from the looks of Rotor are going to be okay. Considering that Antoine and Bunnie will get their memories back of the old world while it is possible that they didn't marry in this new one, they are probably gonna be back together and/or get married again, and then there is the other reasoning that they see themselves as married no matter what after they remember again, I'm not worried about them at all.

 

Now Fiona Fox on the other hand I'm worried about, it would SUCK to me if they threw out all the conflict and history she had as she has the potential to be one of the most interesting characters in the comic, problem is that we haven't seen enough of her and the Destructix. I mean you could play it like her and the team with weren't effected by the Wave due to them being in Moebius but considering that the Sol Zone was effected who knows what happened to them. Though I would like it if they were one of the only few people left unaffected and they go back to a pretty different Mobius. I wouldn't like it if she's suddenly good now in this new Mobius, granted I'm in a huge minority here but if she is gonna turn good (or hopefully neutral) I'd like to see that happen naturally throughout the comic.

 

As for any fan pairing with Tails, yeah he's much too young for any of those girls sans maybe Amy, and I doubt Sega would allow that though it would be quite interesting. Chances are if the kid ever gets a girl in the comic it's either gonna be a character created to be a love interest or there's the off chance that they put in Cosmo, though we all know how that will end up.

 

As for the Retcon itself, I'd say that while it might not have been the best time to do it in the long run I think it was overall a pretty good idea, I mean think about it, technically a lot of stupid stuff never happened because of it (The Slap, Nate Morgan, etc.) and it fixes some plot holes that were left there a long time ago before Flynn got here, I'd doubt they would change it back but it would be interesting seeing a SU story on how things would have played out had it not been reset to what it is now.

 

That's my own 2 cents on all of this, but then again some to most of you know that by now.


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#3 Louis the Hedgehog

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:33 PM

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:58 AM

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".

 until the next BIG Universe Changing Arc Ian or someone comes up with. ;)



#5 Louis the Hedgehog

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:18 PM

 

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".

 until the next BIG Universe Changing Arc Ian or someone comes up with. ;)

 

And how long before that? And you didn't answer my first question.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:17 PM

 

 

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".

 until the next BIG Universe Changing Arc Ian or someone comes up with. ;)

 

And how long before that? And you didn't answer my first question.

 

 

My only guess is they will come back redesigned as well, and maybe with modifications to their names. (EX. Juile-Su, could become jus Julie,..)



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:41 PM

 

 

 

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".

 until the next BIG Universe Changing Arc Ian or someone comes up with. ;)

 

And how long before that? And you didn't answer my first question.

 

 

My only guess is they will come back redesigned as well, and maybe with modifications to their names. (EX. Juile-Su, could become jus Julie,..)

 

But if Penders is suing EA and SEGA, why even bother to bring them back even if changes are made? And keep in mind he said they can use them.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:42 PM

 

 

 

 

Aren't you forgetting something? The lost characters due to the stupid lawsuit?

 

And wait, you said those new designs will last for only a few years? What exactly do you mean by "temporary" and "long haul".

 until the next BIG Universe Changing Arc Ian or someone comes up with. ;)

 

And how long before that? And you didn't answer my first question.

 

 

My only guess is they will come back redesigned as well, and maybe with modifications to their names. (EX. Juile-Su, could become jus Julie,..)

 

But if Penders is suing EA and SEGA, why even bother to bring them back even if changes are made? And keep in mind he said they can use them.

 

 why, so they can have their own versions, I guess.







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