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[Robthe1st]

I know this is sort of old news... but all these years I read every links, most web sites, fanfics, and blogs from the Sega Sonic (Or Sonic games Fans) fans and they express of how they truly hate Sally Acorn.

 

How come??? Naked or they think she's smart then Amy?!

 

Also, check out this video about why people hate Sally:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BB_lUiNEodU

 

 

[LogiTeeka]

I suspect it has something to do with her overall relationship with Sonic. When you get down for it, Sonic's the type of guy who most fangirls flip-out over. He's quick, cunning, daring, suave, handsome; basically their ideal man. With that in mind, it's easy to see why Sonamy appeals to the general audience. Girls can identify with Amy's fixation on her Prince Charming and connect to her daily struggles to make him notice/appreciate her.

 

Aside from the games (where Sonic is trying to avoid Amy), the other media that catches most attention is the anime "Sonic X", which made Sonamy their official pairing. And since most fans confuse both series for the same continuity, Sonamy is the one pairing most fans are used to seeing (despite it not being official).

 

The comics, while massively popular, don't seem to grab that much attention to general fans. And when they are noticed, fans who are used to seeing Sonamy get upset that their favorite pairing was replaced with a different one. Even if the pairing suits the characters, they try spreading the hate by making up excuses to back up their stance and create false accusations to fool others into thinking they're right. In which case, you could say they're jealous.

 

Now, not all fangirls are like that. Some like Sally, but still prefer Sonamy for different reasons; while others like both pairings. Indeed, there are some fans out there who are considerable and humble towards others' opinions. It all depends on how they express their favoritism.

 

At least, that's my take at the subject. Do you agree, or do you think I missed something?

[furrykef]

Probably one or more of the following reasons:
* As leader of the Freedom Fighters, she takes the spotlight away from Sonic. I've heard SatAM characterized as "The Sally Show".
* She's not part of the SegaSonic canon and people tend to be prejudiced against anything from foreign canons. (I know I am!)
* A lot of Sonic fans today didn't grow up with Sally, contributing to the above problem.
* She can be a Mary Sue, especially in Archie.
* When she's not being a Mary Sue, she tends to be useless.
* She can be a bitch, especially in Archie. (The Slap, anyone?)
* They don't like the idea of Sonic having a serious girlfriend of any kind.
* She has never fit in well with the SegaSonic style until her recent redesign, which is probably over a decade too late to change anybody's mind.

[Misk]

I'm primarily a SegaSonic fan that didn't really grow up with SatAM and I have no beef whatsoever with Sally.

 

I don't know where this is all coming from, myself. First I've heard of it. Hell, I "support" Sonsal over Sonamy simply because Sally isn't a psychopath.

[brmsort]

I never heard of the naked reason. By the same token, Sonic is . . . *facepalm*

[furrykef]

I've heard of people talking about it before but I haven't heard anyone personally claim they dislike Sally for that reason.

The issue (insofar as there is one) is that Sally is rather more humanoid than Sonic is, and is sometimes somewhat sexualized in appearance depending on who's drawing her (not so much in SatAM though).

[RedAuthar]

Preference really. Some people just don't like her.

[Robthe1st]

Well, these Sega Sonic fans can be quite cruel don't you think?

 

Also, why do a lot of people like Amy Rose so much? I do like Amy.. but sometimes she can be a annoying, stalker, angry, uses a silly hammer, not as smart as Sally... Why do fans love her anyway??? :/

[Uncle Ben]

Well, these Sega Sonic fans can be quite cruel don't you think?

 

Also, why do a lot of people like Amy Rose so much? I do like Amy.. but sometimes she can be a annoying, stalker, angry, uses a silly hammer, not as smart as Sally... Why do fans love her anyway??? :/

 

Yup. I personally think its a matter of misinformation about Sally and a fear that if Sally replaces Amy they will never see SonAmy hit the light of day

 

Laser X5 hit it on the money one time: They prefer the shallowness of a character like Amy where she's praised for being the way she is. Put it this way: Its like how Lola Bunny is treated in Looney Tunes. The newer fans hate the "Space Jam" portrayal of her but appluade the "Looney Tunes Show" version of her. Same thing applies here

[Captain Sorzo]

 

 I really don't think that it is people liking Amy Rose that much, but more along the lines of just not liking the relationship aspects in the Sonic Universe and by default they're picking Amy Rose as more or less an anti-Sally Acorn. By doing this they know Sonic will never get "tied down" and the games can continue.

Given all the people actively shipping Amy with Sonic, I don't think that's the case. I just tend to file these things under "chronic insanity" and call it a day.

[RedAuthar]

Well, these Sega Sonic fans can be quite cruel don't you think?

 

I dunno, we're pretty harsh on Amy here.  
 

And Chris.

 

And Elise.

 

Are they really outta line? 

[furrykef]

Its like how Lola Bunny is treated in Looney Tunes. The newer fans hate the "Space Jam" portrayal of her but appluade the "Looney Tunes Show" version of her.

I'm old enough to have seen Space Jam in theaters as a kid (which I did) and I agree with these people 1,000,000%. The original Lola fit in with the Looney Tunes cast about as well as a Tetris block fits in with Puyo Puyo. There's no way people like Chuck Jones or Tex Avery ever would have come up with Lola Bunny.

With the Looney Tunes show, though, they overhauled her and everyone else enough that they fit well together. She still didn't seem like she came straight out of Termite Terrace, but neither did anybody else anymore, so it worked.

[Robthe1st]

Laser X5 hit it on the money one time: They prefer the shallowness of a character like Amy where she's praised for being the way she is. Put it this way: Its like how Lola Bunny is treated in Looney Tunes. The newer fans hate the "Space Jam" portrayal of her but appluade the "Looney Tunes Show" version of her. Same thing applies here

 

 

 

I sometimes watch that show.. and yea I admit she is very appearing then the old version from Space Jam

 

So... do you guys think it's better if Sally become more comedic and insane like Amy??? Lol... I think not! I'd always think of Sally as a mature, mindful, kindness, sort of a fighter, and sort of spiritual like Mother Teresa. I also think it's better if she wear clothes just like she does now in the comics. But... I kinda don't like that outfit she wears in the comics.     

 

 

I dunno, we're pretty harsh on Amy here.  
 

And Chris.

 

And Elise.

 

Are they really outta line? 

 

 

I'm sure of it And it's not just here.. But, everywhere on the internet! Lol...

[RedAuthar]

 

Its like how Lola Bunny is treated in Looney Tunes. The newer fans hate the "Space Jam" portrayal of her but appluade the "Looney Tunes Show" version of her.

I'm old enough to have seen Space Jam in theaters as a kid (which I did) and I agree with these people 1,000,000%. The original Lola fit in with the Looney Tunes cast about as well as a Tetris block fits in with Puyo Puyo. There's no way people like Chuck Jones or Tex Avery ever would have come up with Lola Bunny.

With the Looney Tunes show, though, they overhauled her and everyone else enough that they fit well together. She still didn't seem like she came straight out of Termite Terrace, but neither did anybody else anymore, so it worked.

 

Yes and no.  In Space Jam Lola was a very uninteresting character as her personality was attractive mandatory female character. However the comics where she was more prominent she gained a much better personality.  

 

I also love how people like The Nostalgia Critic claim Lola's original appearance was a horrible character yet praises Tina who is just as undeveloped and boring.  

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, we're pretty harsh on Amy here.  
 

And Chris.

 

And Elise.

 

Are they really outta line? 

 

 

I'm sure of it And it's not just here.. But, everywhere on the internet! Lol...

 

Nah.  We're pretty brutal on Amy here.  

 

Just ask UncleBen.  

*Throws Ben under bus.*

 

And the Sonic fan base in general hates Chris and Elise though there are few who like the characters respectfully. 

[LogiTeeka]

So... do you guys think it's better if Sally become more comedic and insane like Amy??? Lol... I think not! I'd always think of Sally as a mature, mindful, kindness, sort of a fighter, and sort of spiritual like Mother Teresa. I also think it's better if she wear clothes just like she does now in the comics. But... I kinda don't like that outfit she wears in the comics.

 

I could see her becoming a comical character while still maintaining her original personality. I mean, let's face it, serious characters can be interesting, but they slowly become generic and boring if they never change. Adding a comedic side could provide a lot more entertainment and possible development.

 

Since Sonic is prone to impulsive and reckless behavior, Sally could easily play the strait-man (or "strait-woman" if you will) who criticizes Sonic's actions. But just to make things even between them (since they share a lot in common), you could have her be just as impulsive and reckless in her own manner, only to get comically humiliated in an ironic way.

 

Yes and no.  In Space Jam Lola was a very uninteresting character as her personality was attractive mandatory female character. However the comics where she was more prominent she gained a much better personality.  

 

 

I also love how people like The Nostalgia Critic claim Lola's original appearance was a horrible character yet praises Tina who is just as undeveloped and boring.  

 

There's a difference between character development and being entertaining. And in the case of the "Looney Tunes", it's obviously leaning towards the entertaining side. Sure, the newer show is portraying itself in a more serious light, but the main idea is still aiming at entertainment.

 

With Lola Bunny, I'm with the critic on this one; her newer depiction is much more entertaining. When you're telling a story (be it a book, movie, video game, or television series), you need a cast of characters to tell the story. But if you want substance, you have to make the characters interesting/entertaining for the readers/viewers to invest themselves into. If they're not interesting, you can't identify with them and, as a result, stop paying attention due to your uninterest.

[Robthe1st]

I could see her becoming a comical character while still maintaining her original personality. I mean, let's face it, serious characters can be interesting, but they slowly become generic and boring if they never change. Adding a comedic side could provide a lot more entertainment and possible development.

 

Since Sonic is prone to impulsive and reckless behavior, Sally could easily play the strait-man (or "strait-woman" if you will) who criticizes Sonic's actions. But just to make things even between them (since they share a lot in common), you could have her be just as impulsive and reckless in her own manner, only to get comically humiliated in an ironic way.

 

 

 

Yeah... is there any cartoon, anime, or real life tv characters that are very powerful, serious, and likeable? Without doing any comedic side? Just asking...

[Uncle Ben]

i always throw Amy under the bus

[TheRedStranger]

i always throw Amy under the bus

 

 *Stranger speeds by in a bus covered in Sonsal bumper stickers*

 

Push her! Push her! 

[ILOVEVHS]

(VHS, knowing that he can't win with his preferred couple, goes home to a meal of tea and crumpets)

[Uncle Ben]

 

i always throw Amy under the bus

 

 *Stranger speeds by in a bus covered in Sonsal bumper stickers*

 

Push her! Push her! 

 

 

You dont think i would???