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[Prince ByTor]

As the title states, I found an article I thought I would share: Jeff's Musings: Sonic The Hedgehog and His Story. It's an interesting take on not just the games, but the cartoons, comics, and the state of the franchise.

[RedAuthar]

While I agree it is interesting, I don't see anything new with this review.

 

I hear a lot of "SEGA Sonic needs to be more like SatAM," and "SEGA needs to improve it's plots, like SatAM."

 

Honestly I love Sonic SatAM, heck I wouldn't be here if I didn't, but that doesn't mean anything non-SatAM isn't good.  

(Included is a rant about how narrow sighted we SatAM fans are, but that's only if you want to know my reasoning.  If you don't care about that, fill free to skip over the Spoiler section to focus on this thread's topic)

 

Spoiler

We badger the comics because they're too comical compared to SatAM, yet when a darker element is thrown in, we badger it saying it's too dark or just there for the shock value.  The games villains and the characters are very bland, yet when plots are thrown in we complain they take themselves too seriously or the plot is not serious enough.  We don't like Sonic X or AoStH because they were too humorous and badly written, yet so were many of the SatAM elements such as the shorts or heck the pilot which we choose just to ignore rather than rage about.  We complain that the Games or shows tend to be either too serious or too corny, yet when they combined we get something like Underground which we dismiss as being not enough in either direction.

 

Honestly this is why the Sonic Fan Base is so divided.  All the Fan Groups find fault in the other Sonic Franchises but will let slide the ones in our own.

We hate the Game characters because they have no development, yet most have more screen time and development than Bunnie, who didn't even have an episode around her while Antoine and Rotor had two each and Tails had....sorta had one.  Honestly Sally was the only character who got a lot of development.  Arguably Sonic had the opportunity but he was kinda too busy being a troll to really grow. 

 

We hate Dr. Eggman for beeing too goofy, yet the only thing Robotnik really had going for him was his Voice.  He was very one dimensional and usually what made him fun was watching Snively, who was kinda goofy, react to him.

 

We hate Chris Thorndyke for stealing the limelight in a show that should be about Sonic, yet isn't that what Sally did?  Sure Sally is a much better character overall but we don't talk about that, we just complain that Chris got too much screen time.

 

We hate Amy for being in a relationship with Sonic, yet again, that's what Sally did.  Again Sally is a more developed character, and Amy is kinda a stalker, yet we complain it's out of character for Sonic to like her, why is it not for Sally?

 

 

Honestly yes, SatAM probably was the best thing to come from Sonic, but we shouldn't let it blind us from enjoying what else comes from the Sonic Franchise.  Just because it is "not as good" doesn't mean it's "not good".

[Prince ByTor]

While I agree it is interesting, I don't see anything new with this review.

 

I hear a lot of "SEGA Sonic needs to be more like SatAM," and "SEGA needs to improve it's plots, like SatAM."

 

Honestly I love Sonic SatAM, heck I wouldn't be here if I didn't, but that doesn't mean anything non-SatAM isn't good.  

(Included is a rant about how narrow sighted we SatAM fans are, but that's only if you want to know my reasoning.  If you don't care about that, fill free to skip over the Spoiler section to focus on this thread's topic)

 

Spoiler

We badger the comics because they're too comical compared to SatAM, yet when a darker element is thrown in, we badger it saying it's too dark or just there for the shock value.  The games villains and the characters are very bland, yet when plots are thrown in we complain they take themselves too seriously or the plot is not serious enough.  We don't like Sonic X or AoStH because they were too humorous and badly written, yet so were many of the SatAM elements such as the shorts or heck the pilot which we choose just to ignore rather than rage about.  We complain that the Games or shows tend to be either too serious or too corny, yet when they combined we get something like Underground which we dismiss as being not enough in either direction.

 

Honestly this is why the Sonic Fan Base is so divided.  All the Fan Groups find fault in the other Sonic Franchises but will let slide the ones in our own.

We hate the Game characters because they have no development, yet most have more screen time and development than Bunnie, who didn't even have an episode around her while Antoine and Rotor had two each and Tails had....sorta had one.  Honestly Sally was the only character who got a lot of development.  Arguably Sonic had the opportunity but he was kinda too busy being a troll to really grow. 

 

We hate Dr. Eggman for beeing too goofy, yet the only thing Robotnik really had going for him was his Voice.  He was very one dimensional and usually what made him fun was watching Snively, who was kinda goofy, react to him.

 

We hate Chris Thorndyke for stealing the limelight in a show that should be about Sonic, yet isn't that what Sally did?  Sure Sally is a much better character overall but we don't talk about that, we just complain that Chris got too much screen time.

 

We hate Amy for being in a relationship with Sonic, yet again, that's what Sally did.  Again Sally is a more developed character, and Amy is kinda a stalker, yet we complain it's out of character for Sonic to like her, why is it not for Sally?

 

 

Honestly yes, SatAM probably was the best thing to come from Sonic, but we shouldn't let it blind us from enjoying what else comes from the Sonic Franchise.  Just because it is "not as good" doesn't mean it's "not good".

 

I dunno, he seemed to be quite balanced with his rundown; and stated that he liked AoStH and parts of Sonic X; he just thought like many, that the SatAM/Archieverse was superior. Like many of us, he is asking why Sega refuses to acknowledge SatAM in even ONE GAME in the last 18 years and you can't tell me that you like everything Sega has put out since SatAM; in mine, and many others' opinion with a few exceptions since the mid-late '90s Sega's game universe has more or less sucked. This is not just based on SatAM fans assessments of the games, but professional reviewers and buyers of the games as well.

While it's true that SatAM is not perfect, it's far better than anything Sega has given us in quite some time.

[Uncle Ben]

Like many of us, he is asking why Sega refuses to acknowledge SatAM in even ONE GAME in the last 18 years and you can't tell me that you like everything Sega has put out since SatAM; in mine, and many others' opinion with a few exceptions since the mid-late '90s Sega's game universe has more or less sucked. This is not just based on SatAM fans assessments of the games, but professional reviewers and buyers of the games as well.

While it's true that SatAM is not perfect, it's far better than anything Sega has given us in quite some time.

 

 

I think if SEGA gave SEGA of America more control then MAYBE we would have seen SatAM in the games sooner. If SEGA is at PAX East this year i'm gonna straight up ask them