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[jtreese]

I'm not sure if there is already a topic of this on here, but i'll post it up anyway. So which Sonic comics do you prefer, Fleetway Sonic the Comic or Archie Sonic comic? Why? 

[Prince ByTor]

I'm not sure if there is already a topic of this on here, but i'll post it up anyway. So which Sonic comics do you prefer, Fleetway Sonic the Comic or Archie Sonic comic? Why? 

 

I go with Archie only because its basis was originally that of the SatAM/American universe; it has the characters we know and love from the series.

But that being said, STC was actually "more true" to the original conceptual "Sonic Bible." As far as working with the game universe, I have to say it did that better as well. And it had the good grace to end before Sega and the Sonic game universe faded into mediocrity. We can view it fondly for what it was; before Sega's reaching arm started to mess with the European and American Universes.

[jtreese]

 

I'm not sure if there is already a topic of this on here, but i'll post it up anyway. So which Sonic comics do you prefer, Fleetway Sonic the Comic or Archie Sonic comic? Why? 

 

I go with Archie only because its basis was originally that of the SatAM/American universe; it has the characters we know and love from the series.

But that being said, STC was actually "more true" to the original conceptual "Sonic Bible." As far as working with the game universe, I have to say it did that better as well. And it had the good grace to end before Sega and the Sonic game universe faded into mediocrity. We can view it fondly for what it was; before Sega's reaching arm started to mess with the European and American Universes.

 

I totally agree with you

[TheRedStranger]

Any one here read the follow comic?

[RedAuthar]

I never Read Sonic the Comic.  Never had desire to.  

 

Ironic as I used some of their characters in my Fan Fiction.  Oh well. 

[Mike Arcade]

Did somebody call me?  

I LOVE Sonic The Comic, I may not have grown up with it (due to being born and raised in the US) but dear god am I glad I discovered it! The basic plot of it is that Sonic and a group of Freedom Fighters band together to defeat Dr.Robotnik who has taken over Mobius. Sound familiar? Oh it does and it shares that thing in common with SatAM and the Archie Comic, but other then that STC is WAY different then any of them could ever be. Like Prince said it takes more of it's basis from the Sonic Bible that Sega of America used on how they wanted Sonic in other medias around the world, there was even a Promo Comic made in the US that basically fits that Bible. So when Fleetway got a chance to adapt the newest Video Game Series they went for it, in fact I believe STC came out BEFORE Archie Sonic! It did for a fact come out before SatAM as they had a promo in one of the earlier issues for a Sonic Cartoon that would later become SatAM, it also probably predated AoSTH as well. So it has the honor of being one of the first comics made for the series, and THE first recurring Sonic Comic.

 

The plot goes much like the US Promo Comic, with an accident that turns nice Dr.Kintobor into the mad Dr. Robotnik! After some time Robotnik concludes that he must trap Mobians in his Badnik Robots and take over the World, but Kintobor's friend Sonic won't let him do that! Sonic now fights to prevent Robotnik from taking over and hopes to one day restore The Good Doctor, hence why he doesn't kill him. Sonic later on gets help from Tails, Johnny Lightfoot, Porker Lewis, and even Amy Rose, who later on becomes MUCH different then any of her other incarnations in the media. When Sonic explains his friends (minus Amy as this is before they meet her) about why he's blue, super fast, and knows Robotnik, The Doctor manages to control the Special Zone AI Omni Viewer and send them all 6 months into the future on Mobius, what they see is the world now officially RBR (Ruled By Robotnik). So Sonic and his friends form the Freedom Fighters, meet other colorful characters and enemies on the way, and have several adventures in order to free the world from Robotnik's hands.

The Series has A LOT of variety, not only are there several different stories throughout the book telling about not only Sonic, but Tails, Knuckles, and Amy as well along with several others, but they ALSO have stories based off of Sega Titles and Games released on the console during the time! Artwork in European Comics are usually well detailed much like Manga, and in STC that's no exception. Most of the Artwork is downright AMAZING to look at, not just the characters but the Worlds you get to see look like they are almost from a painting sometimes, it's truly a sight to behold! Though in earlier issues the way Sonic's quills are when his back is facing the panel is quite strange to say the least but that's nothing to really complain about. The writing in mostly all the issues is great, and the Sonic of STC is NOT The Hedgehog you know of in the games, TV shows, or other comics. He's not too nice and usually bad mouths his friends, some would call him a jerk but I think he's HILARIOUS. He's a Hedgehog with a REAL Attitude, he's also pretty sharp too as he also comes up with some damn good plans throughout the comic. What about Sally you ask? Well she's there, but she's not the Sally you know of in SatAM/Archie Sonic AT ALL as she's a very minor character with a little brother and only really shows up during the earlier issues so you're princess isn't here to save the day this time around.  

They never do take things from SatAM once that aired either, the publisher pretty much let them do almost anything they wanted and Sega didn't do anything at all from what I know (unlike how they are always watching Archie Sonic today). This Comic was blessed with having very talented people in the business (with a young Mark Miller of Kick-Ass fame doing Streets of Rage Stories) such as Nigil Kitching, Richard Elson, and Lew Stringer who are very well known for being the long runners of STC up until the end. They do some of the best stories and artwork in the series. What about the Editors? Thankfully they were pretty easy going and let them do the stories they wanted, but they did add some input into the comic, GOOD input too. In fact the reason why Amy is so badass in STC is because the 2nd Editor wanted her to be a more positive role model for girls. How crazy is that, editors that didn't suck! Not only that, but most of the team actually PLAYED the games too, in fact other then being based on the US Promo Comic and Sonic Bible it takes MANY liberties from the games themselves, LITERALLY. You SEE levels and locations from the games, Sonic 1 and 2 are ACTUALLY CANON in this comic! But with their own take on how things run, a VERY different way of seeing them and my god is it AWESOME. Super Sonic in this series is well known for being a Psychotic Chaos Powered Monster that wants to destroy everything in his path! And there's a lot more where that came from.
 
Simply put I HIGHLY Recommend this Series to ANY Sonic Fan, it is VERY worth reading and even continues to this day Online, and STC-O even has the approval from the writers and artists of STC, they even CONTRIBUTE on the site too! It's got a loyal fanbase and while it's much smaller then SatAM and Archie Sonic's it deserves A LOT more recognition. As for how I feel STC stacks up against Archie Sonic I'll leave for another post after this one as this just got WAY TOO LONG.

[TheRedStranger]

 

Did somebody call me?  

I LOVE Sonic The Comic, I may not have grown up with it (due to being born and raised in the US) but dear god am I glad I discovered it! The basic plot of it is that Sonic and a group of Freedom Fighters band together to defeat Dr.Robotnik who has taken over Mobius. Sound familiar? Oh it does and it shares that thing in common with SatAM and the Archie Comic, but other then that STC is WAY different then any of them could ever be. Like Prince said it takes more of it's basis from the Sonic Bible that Sega of America used on how they wanted Sonic in other medias around the world, there was even a Promo Comic made in the US that basically fits that Bible. So when Fleetway got a chance to adapt the newest Video Game Series they went for it, in fact I believe STC came out BEFORE Archie Sonic! It did for a fact come out before SatAM as they had a promo in one of the earlier issues for a Sonic Cartoon that would later become SatAM, it also probably predated AoSTH as well. So it has the honor of being one of the first comics made for the series, and THE first recurring Sonic Comic.

 

The plot goes much like the US Promo Comic, with an accident that turns nice Dr.Kintobor into the mad Dr. Robotnik! After some time Robotnik concludes that he must trap Mobians in his Badnik Robots and take over the World, but Kintobor's friend Sonic won't let him do that! Sonic now fights to prevent Robotnik from taking over and hopes to one day restore The Good Doctor, hence why he doesn't kill him. Sonic later on gets help from Tails, Johnny Lightfoot, Porker Lewis, and even Amy Rose, who later on becomes MUCH different then any of her other incarnations in the media. When Sonic explains his friends (minus Amy as this is before they meet her) about why he's blue, super fast, and knows Robotnik, The Doctor manages to control the Special Zone AI Omni Viewer and send them all 6 months into the future on Mobius, what they see is the world now officially RBR (Ruled By Robotnik). So Sonic and his friends form the Freedom Fighters, meet other colorful characters and enemies on the way, and have several adventures in order to free the world from Robotnik's hands.

The Series has A LOT of variety, not only are there several different stories throughout the book telling about not only Sonic, but Tails, Knuckles, and Amy as well along with several others, but they ALSO have stories based off of Sega Titles and Games released on the console during the time! Artwork in European Comics are usually well detailed much like Manga, and in STC that's no exception. Most of the Artwork is downright AMAZING to look at, not just the characters but the Worlds you get to see look like they are almost from a painting sometimes, it's truly a sight to behold! Though in earlier issues the way Sonic's quills are when his back is facing the panel is quite strange to say the least but that's nothing to really complain about. The writing in mostly all the issues is great, and the Sonic of STC is NOT The Hedgehog you know of in the games, TV shows, or other comics. He's not too nice and usually bad mouths his friends, some would call him a jerk but I think he's HILARIOUS. He's a Hedgehog with a REAL Attitude, he's also pretty sharp too as he also comes up with some damn good plans throughout the comic. What about Sally you ask? Well she's there, but she's not the Sally you know of in SatAM/Archie Sonic AT ALL as she's a very minor character with a little brother and only really shows up during the earlier issues so you're princess isn't here to save the day this time around.  

They never do take things from SatAM once that aired either, the publisher pretty much let them do almost anything they wanted and Sega didn't do anything at all from what I know (unlike how they are always watching Archie Sonic today). This Comic was blessed with having very talented people in the business (with a young Mark Miller of Kick-Ass fame doing Streets of Rage Stories) such as Nigil Kitching, Richard Elson, and Lew Stringer who are very well known for being the long runners of STC up until the end. They do some of the best stories and artwork in the series. What about the Editors? Thankfully they were pretty easy going and let them do the stories they wanted, but they did add some input into the comic, GOOD input too. In fact the reason why Amy is so badass in STC is because the 2nd Editor wanted her to be a more positive role model for girls. How crazy is that, editors that didn't suck! Not only that, but most of the team actually PLAYED the games too, in fact other then being based on the US Promo Comic and Sonic Bible it takes MANY liberties from the games themselves, LITERALLY. You SEE levels and locations from the games, Sonic 1 and 2 are ACTUALLY CANON in this comic! But with their own take on how things run, a VERY different way of seeing them and my god is it AWESOME. Super Sonic in this series is well known for being a Psychotic Chaos Powered Monster that wants to destroy everything in his path! And there's a lot more where that came from.
 
Simply put I HIGHLY Recommend this Series to ANY Sonic Fan, it is VERY worth reading and even continues to this day Online, and STC-O even has the approval from the writers and artists of STC, they even CONTRIBUTE on the site too! It's got a loyal fanbase and while it's much smaller then SatAM and Archie Sonic's it deserves A LOT more recognition. As for how I feel STC stacks up against Archie Sonic I'll leave for another post after this one as this just got WAY TOO LONG.

 

 

http://www.stconline...4/comic1_1.html

 

Who said it was gone?

[Mike Arcade]

I never said it was gone at all, just that it continues on in STC-O, I mention it at the very end too.

 

Now as for which comic I prefer, well I like both comics very much, but I'd have to go with STC on this one. Maybe it's because of how based on the games it really is while at the same time doing it's own thing is why I like it so much, that and it seems like it always had a good grasp on what it wanted to do.

 

The Archie Comic DID NOT start out like SatAM and was more of a comedic comic with more of a AoSTH basis to it along with SatAM. It was only around after 20 issues that things really started to pick up the pace and even then there were some flaws, but nothing to distract it from the comic itself. You also had the Knuckles Comic by Archie which is written by (the now infamous) Ken Penders who REALLY goes out there in freshing out the Echidna's background. Looking over it the Knuckles Comics are pretty good but haven't aged that well. His Sonic Stories have faired a little better though, but overtime the comic became really convoluted, the comic faired well enough until the Sonic Adventure Arc took place. The Arc itself wasn't completely awful but it wasn't as good as it could have been, after that the Comic faired decently up until after issue 100 where things got dicey and quality was lost. I blame the internal conflict between the writers and editors of that time as both main writers Penders and newcomer Karl Bollers wanted to take the book in different directions. When 134 happened everything went to hell for the comic, as that issue might as well be the Sonic 2006 of the Archie Comic. It still continued but the scars still remained, eventually new blood and Sonic Fan Ian Flynn was brought in to clean up house. His first job was to resolve things from what the previous team left behind, after that he took the comic into his wing. I'd say he does a good job but the fanbase is quite split with his writing and run during the comic overall, Sega breathing on his neck after the Penders/Bollers mess and That Legal Issue doesn't help either.

When looking at Sonic The Comic, it is quite the opposite of Archie Sonic in many ways. It has NONE of the problems the issues of Archie Sonic had during and after STC was cancelled by Egmont Fleetway. Are there any Romantic Subplots? NOPE because they wanted to focus on action and telling cool stories! (though there was a love triangle planned but that never happened). Are there a lot of Echidna Characters made for the Comic? Not here there isn't as only one Echidna was made for the Comic. Are there very convoluted story arcs? No way, these guys knew what they were doing nearly all of the time. Does Sega breath on them and see if they are doing anything wrong, shit man they didn't care! They just did what they wanted to do with the comic. I do like Archie Sonic but having a Sonic Comic that has NONE of those problems is very appealing to me, I'm sure you guys can understand why.
 

But would I ever compare both comics and say which is better, no I wouldn't. The reason for that is because it would be unfair to do that. While both comics were made in the same year, both companies (Archie and Fleetway) handled it much differently then the other. The Writers and Editors had a different way of going at it, with Fleetway's Team using the Sonic Bible and going more with the games while Archie based itself off of mainly SatAM (with some AoSTH at first). Not only that, but STC's team was given MUCH more freedom then their Archie Counterparts, they basically called the shots and did whatever they wanted to. For some reason Sega took much more liberty with Archie Sonic and later during it's run kept an eye on it, nowadays they watch it like a hawk. It took a lot of different writers to make Archie Sonic what it is today for both good and bad times, it's not perfect but it is a world record holding comic for a reason, it has a die hard fanbase made up of people who watched the shows and played the games back then, Archie Sonic is something special overall and will continue to go on for (hopefully) quite a long time. STC however was taken down by Egmont eventually after the comic was doomed to make issues that only had reprints in them, BUT THE FANS STRUCK BACK. Thus a group of them made STC-O, which like I mentioned continues even today and has even been approved by writers of the Original STC, making it the Official Unofficial Continuation of STC. STC shows (much like SatAM) just what happens when you get the right team of artists, writers, and editors into the mix to make a comic based off of a video game. I swear it must have been made under a Blood Red Moon or something because it is DAMN good. Would it have been good had it continued on after it's Sonic Adventure Arc (I think so)? Who knows, but that fans still breath life into this series and it goes on to this very day.

 

Both Series are good in their own way and bring something different to you, but I do recommend reading both comics to see just how comic adaptions can be handled. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but BOTH are well worth the read.

[LogiTeeka]

I might be a big fan of Ian's current take at the Archie series, but when it comes to reading older issues, I much rather read the Fleetway comics. They were far more creative and entertaining than Archie's earlier attempts.

 

I like how Sonic was portrayed as a jerk. For some reason, it seemed to really fit his character. I mean, if you were a super-powered mutant that the whole world admired, all the fame and attention would go to your head and make you arrogant and cocky. And if someone annoyed you (even your own friends), you would probably treat them harshly because of your inflated ego. Some people may not like this depiction for obvious reasons, but I found it much more interesting than the official version that everyone's used to seeing.

 

I also like the idea of Super Sonic being an inner demon set to unleash mass destruction upon the entire world. With all that power that comes from the emeralds, it makes them dangerously addictive and life-threatening. It gives Sonic an inner conflict to fight, sorta like the tale of "Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde". It's certainly a much better concept than that Super Saiyan-knockoff seen in the games.

[jtreese]

I never Read Sonic the Comic.  Never had desire to.  

 

Ironic as I used some of their characters in my Fan Fiction.  Oh well. 

 

A Youtuber by the name, SonicKing08 has uploaded #1-134. Another Youtuber named TheUltimateFrieza, is in the process of uploading the rest. I suggest you read them.

[jtreese]

I might be a big fan of Ian's current take at the Archie series, but when it comes to reading older issues, I much rather read the Fleetway comics. They were far more creative and entertaining than Archie's earlier attempts.

 

i kinda agree. Older issues of the Archie Sonic comic went nowhere. For me, it was around issue #25 when things started to get interesting.

[Mike Arcade]

 

I never Read Sonic the Comic.  Never had desire to.  

 

Ironic as I used some of their characters in my Fan Fiction.  Oh well. 

 

A Youtuber by the name, SonicKing08 has uploaded #1-134. Another Youtuber named TheUltimateFrieza, is in the process of uploading the rest. I suggest you read them.

 

 

OR you could find the whole original comic online, seriously someone scanned EVERYTHING that is STC and put it up online, there are some sites that let you view the whole comic or download everything, it's not really hard to find either.

 

 

I might be a big fan of Ian's current take at the Archie series, but when it comes to reading older issues, I much rather read the Fleetway comics. They were far more creative and entertaining than Archie's earlier attempts.

 

i kinda agree. Older issues of the Archie Sonic comic went nowhere. For me, it was around issue #25 when things started to get interesting.

 

 

No arguing here, though it is fun to look back at the issues prior to 17 - 25 sometimes, but it's not what I would call traditionally good more like it being a gag comic back then. Though the most prominent thing to come out of the much older issues of Archie Sonic is Evil Sonic (who later becomes Scourge) and EVE (who unknowingly transports Julian into another Mobius, meeting a Robotnik who would later become Eggman).