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Fellow FUSer
Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:12 AM
Well here we were about to attack Syria without a UN nor Congressional permission but Obama finally desired to put it to a vote whether or not to strike.
Now I agree, if you use chemical weapons that you should get punished but we are getting mixed stories about who really launched the attack so lets wait and get the full story. More importanly us in america can have a say. Go on Google, look up your congressmen/women and tell them what you think.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:15 AM
We need to do something but a war/military involvement is not an option
The Spambot Killer.
Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:22 AM
Moved Topic to the Debate, as it's a hot topic.
Fellow FUSer
Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:34 AM
I already sent my representatives messages. You can just rush into things, lets get the facts straight then well go from there.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:50 AM
exactly. We need to find a peaceful way to do this
The Soothsayer of Aeons.
Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:13 PM
exactly. We need to find a peaceful way to do this
I wish we could, Ben, 
But it's never that simple. We will be involved one way or another.
We all want peace, but all want our piece of the peace.
"The Wounds that Heal."
Posted 31 August 2013 - 05:38 PM
Pacifistic, or Just War. I don't think there will ever be a world without War of any kind. It's a living Hell, as some people would put it. But I always try to be the Yin within the Yang
I AM NUMBER XV.
I AM AXZEN.
SO LOOK ALIVE, SUNSHINE.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 31 August 2013 - 09:55 PM
exactly. We need to find a peaceful way to do this
I wish we could, Ben,
We all want peace, but all want our piece of the peace.
Write to Congress like i did.
There's a way to do this peacefully, Obama is too stubborn to realize it (makes me think Romney would have handled this better)
Fellow FUSer
Posted 01 September 2013 - 09:24 AM
I do not ascribe to the belief that we are the world's police.
First, we don't know who used the chemicals.
Second, the rebels are not any better than the government they seek ot overthrow.
Third, what do we hope to do over there, set up another glowing success like Egypt?
Fourth, Syria has staunch allies that we really don't want to piss off.
Military action right now is a really poor idea. I really don't think it is our business.
I love my God, my wife, my 5 kids, and I like my guns, my beer, my whiskey, and my pickup.
I dislike politicians, policemen, diet foods, no-smoking signs, and mowing the lawn.
I like Sonic games from the Genesis days, tolerate the Sonic Adventure series, can stomach Sonic Heroes, and can't stand the rest.
And there is only one true story of Sonic, SatAM.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 01 September 2013 - 05:58 PM
Well Egypt was a disaster but Libya is working fine right now
The Soothsayer of Aeons.
Posted 03 September 2013 - 09:41 AM
Obama manipulated uncritical people with buzzwords and hollow concepts to get into office. "Hope" and "change" are meaningless terms without academic clarification and proper execution. If people just asked questions like "What the hell do you mean by change, what are you changing, and how does it benefit America?" We'd might have someone a bit more competent in the Whitehouse.
He is indeed a stubborn anti-colonial ideologue with a whole lot of personal baggage that deludes his sense of policy. Those are most volatile of politicians (IRS scamming religious charities and conservatives, Gaza, and a foul-mouthed sycophant for a vice-president show how inept and ideologically bankrupt his current administration is). He has no idea of economic, social, and political consequences. Overall, he can't see the world for what it is, but what he wants it to be...so much danger in that.
I am an army brat, my father and my father's father are and were military men. I have many people I care about who wear my nation's uniform, and all of them call him one thing: "Zero". Why? Because he has zero military experience (seriously, he is making a mess of our military, cutting important budgets left and right, and he is casting a ballot to throw our young men and women into another war?). He is also doing soldiers very dirty...half of my friends after all their toil overseas are just being heartlessly furloughed by old Dr. Obamnik. Obamacare for one is a giant "cool story bro", naive and destructive (I know of two businesses that I frequent are going bankrupt and three people who are forced to file bankruptcy because it's just about to happen - imagine when it hits the fan. Our budget can't take the strain...
I am a CLT (a community living tech) who works with the disabled so they can achieve independence when it comes to basic life skills; my current client needs the social-safety net because he has special needs. When that social security is divided up into nothing, he and various others like him might not have the needed resources to survive or thrive. His yearly budget is already in danger... Instead, people who are perfectly capable of getting healthcare (or at least save some money in an emergency budget like I do - seriously do this, you will be doing yourself a favor) won't be getting it. Also, when some idiot gets drunk and crashes his car, knocks someone up, or gets an STD - guess who is paying the medical bill, us. When we are busy sharing wealth in a consumerist culture, it quickly becomes consumed. The individuals must produce capital by his works for the community, if he wishes to prosper.
To put it simply: If you are capable, if you don't work you don't eat.
I'd encourage willful charity and social policy that supported altruists and philanthropy over a forced mass-socialism any day. Sad thing about Obama's welfare policies is that they don't fare well for those who actually need it, the elderly and the otherwise disabled.
I agree Romney would have done better, he is a man of management and logistically capable. Though I still (after thoroughly studying their doctrine) would be hesitant to have a Mormon in the Whitehouse. I'd fear the connection to the LDS church would cloud his judgment when it comes to social policy.
Look at it this way: A plumber might keep up appearances, he might speak of lofty things, but ultimately what matters is if he can whip out a plunger and get crap done. And if he or his cronies are making up names and setting people against each other in mindless debate, than he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I vote Princess Sally. She'd get the job done! She always does. Our first furry president! 
Fellow FUSer
Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:56 PM
Re Uncle Ben. And it only took our embassy getting overrun and Americans sacrificed to murdered by a mob to win it over. The whole Arab Spring is a fiasco. And we all know that no news is not always good news when it comes to Africa and the Mid East.
Re RedStranger. Don't hold back: tell me how you really feel!
I love my God, my wife, my 5 kids, and I like my guns, my beer, my whiskey, and my pickup.
I dislike politicians, policemen, diet foods, no-smoking signs, and mowing the lawn.
I like Sonic games from the Genesis days, tolerate the Sonic Adventure series, can stomach Sonic Heroes, and can't stand the rest.
And there is only one true story of Sonic, SatAM.
I'll have a double order of onion rings!
Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:26 PM
Proud servant of the God-Emperor. His Will be done.
Lord Castellan of the Mobius Crusade
Fellow FUSer
Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:29 PM
Gentlemen, there is no "vote".
No matter what you do, no matter who you write, America will march to war.
Many Presidents lay the decisions in the hands of the people, and many of said decisions are turned out of the favor of the President.
Therefore, he alters the "vote" to make it seem that the vote of sorts fell into his favor.
The voice of the Populus, from the POV of a leader, is irrelevant to keep the reign of the leader, as he is dictated by bureaucratic persons of high status. It is never the people's deciding factor, only the likes of the congress. and in the words of a certain person, "everybody loves wartime presidents".
Try as you might, pacifism will take you nowhere.
Oh, I am not naive enough to think this is not what is going through the heads of our leaders. As Orwell once said, "War is peace."
I love my God, my wife, my 5 kids, and I like my guns, my beer, my whiskey, and my pickup.
I dislike politicians, policemen, diet foods, no-smoking signs, and mowing the lawn.
I like Sonic games from the Genesis days, tolerate the Sonic Adventure series, can stomach Sonic Heroes, and can't stand the rest.
And there is only one true story of Sonic, SatAM.
I'll have a double order of onion rings!
Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:52 PM
Proud servant of the God-Emperor. His Will be done.
Lord Castellan of the Mobius Crusade
The Soothsayer of Aeons.
Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:41 PM
Yo, dawg, I heard about the Syrians killing Syrians...
So i thought you could kill Syrians for killing Syrians to prevent them from killing Syrians.
I'll have a double order of onion rings!
Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:17 PM
Proud servant of the God-Emperor. His Will be done.
Lord Castellan of the Mobius Crusade
The Soothsayer of Aeons.
Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:22 PM
Kill them to stop them from killing them. EXCELLENT PLAN HOLMES!
I know right !
I'll have a double order of onion rings!
Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:27 PM
Kill them to stop them from killing them. EXCELLENT PLAN HOLMES!
I know right
Proud servant of the God-Emperor. His Will be done.
Lord Castellan of the Mobius Crusade
The Soothsayer of Aeons.
Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:37 PM
Kill them to stop them from killing them. EXCELLENT PLAN HOLMES!
I know right
Now if you'll excuse me, I had the wondrous idea of brushing one's teeth with shards of glass!
BRILLIANT! And I shall use some steel-wool to wash me nethers squeaky clean!
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