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[Mike Arcade]

So, time for me to give out my own answers for these questions.

 

For Question 1 I'd have to say that Ben got it down for me, I probably would have it more SatAM based with some light hearted moments, the following issues might stay more true to the show but with game elements in there, I also would have had the Robotnik/Eggman change go a differently (Because I KNOW that Sega would want the SA design to be the main design in the comic) and the Multiverse Aspect much more downplayed in the beginning of the comics run. With this the comic would have a more consistent tone and probably would have faired MUCH BETTER later on with plots and characters more refined. If these events took place then the comic would possibly have been better overall in later issues and such things like in #134 wouldn't have happened or would have been MUCH differently.

 

Question 2 for me is a hard one, as there are a lot of characters you CAN do without but I would have loved it if all of them were written better and/or featured a lot more, if that was the case some of your choices wouldn't have been on you're list. But I WILL say this, removing Nate Morgan would have changed NOTHING in the comic, seriously ALL his parts can easily be written for Chuck and Rotor and you would have lost NOTHING in the process. That's who I would remove, personally I would have loved it if he was what he intended to be in SatAM, a Good Wizard that's an ally to the Freedom Fighters, hell you could have put in a good rivalry with SatAM Style Morgan and Naugus, Good vs. Evil Wizard and it would have been A LOT MORE INTERESTING then the Nate Morgan we got. Other then that I wouldn't really remove anyone in the comics, I would have just written them differently, Better, and/or showed them more often.

 

Question 3 I knew was going to be challenging, but I understand why most of you would have had the Game Adaptions as a different comic entirely, if that was the case you could possibly get a Sonic and Sonic Crossover in there! The way the games are featured in the comics now is pretty cool and I'm perfectly fine with that, but I would have tried to adapt almost EVERY Sonic game in the comic, I say almost because who would want to read an adaption of Sonic Labyrinth? Now they wouldn't be EXACTLY like the games but they would be closer enough then what we got in the earlier issues, which at times was okay to pretty damn good. Especially Sonic Spinball as the game LITERALLY had the SatAM cast in there, they really dropped the ball on that first adaption.
 

I made Question 4 as the hardest question in that list, maybe it wasn't as hard as I thought it was. But the way I would have ended it is MUCH differently then what you would expect, now you WOULD get you're final Sonic and Eggman battle but the conclusion of that would lead to the final story arc of the Archie Comic, simply put all hell would break loose! Two Old Enemies would reveal themselves and is using one of the main characters to END everything in order to become gods. Sonic, Everyone, and Eggman would probably have to team up and Eggman would end up killed and take down one of the bads with him. This Last Bad thinks he's gonna win it all but then "the puppet" would end up killing the last bad off, no longer being in control but with pretty much all the power. With the character's eyes opened to all reality and looking back on his or her life, they conclude that there is no point in anything and would rather end it all for their to be no more suffering. "The Puppet" is The Final Boss now. In the end we'd see Sonic, Sally, and The Boss in this white space where they both admit their faults to The Boss and they Reboot Everything. With that done we see a new Mobius looking much like how it did during the 1st Genesis Wave and Pre-3rd Genesis Wave, we see Mobotropolis, Angel Island, and all these locations and characters seeing where they are now in this new world, even some faces you wouldn't expect. After that we cut to what looks like Knothole Village, we see all the SatAM Freedom Fighters as they originally looked like with Sonic and Tails. Tails and the Freedom Fighters smile at Sonic and Sally, both of them look at each other and think "We're Home.", THE END. It's pretty out there but think about it, once Robotnik met Eggman in his Zone EVERYTHING changed (Or when Sonic first met Scourge), ever since then the Zones have been messed up, you could save Mobius and that's fine but what if Another Robotnik would just show up and start invading? If you fix the Multiverse of Archie Sonic you pretty much end the series, I highly doubt the comic would ever end like this but it's a lovely though. I don't know if this counts as a Gainax Ending but hey I'd be happy with that too, a Gainax Ending, that's how Archie Sonic should end. *shot*

I hope you guys liked my answers, let me know what you think as always and now 3 More Questions...

 

Question 1. If YOU were Sonic The Hedgehog, how would you handle the war and everything? What...this is a "What Would You Do Differently" Topic, no body said that it was bound to just doing the comic book.

Question 2. If Sally Acorn really did die during End Game, what would happen with Auto Sally that took her place and what do you think the rest of the comic would be like? How different would it be?

And Question 3. If you could remove one of the 3 Genesis Waves and have them not work, which one, why, and what effect would that have on the rest of the comic? THINK CAREFULLY NOW, because the end results may not be what you have wanted them to be...

 

Have fun guys.

 

[TheRedStranger]

So, time for me to give out my own answers for these questions.

 

For Question 1 I'd have to say that Ben got it down for me, I probably would have it more SatAM based with some light hearted moments, the following issues might stay more true to the show but with game elements in there, I also would have had the Robotnik/Eggman change go a differently (Because I KNOW that Sega would want the SA design to be the main design in the comic) and the Multiverse Aspect much more downplayed in the beginning of the comics run. With this the comic would have a more consistent tone and probably would have faired MUCH BETTER later on with plots and characters more refined. If these events took place then the comic would possibly have been better overall in later issues and such things like in #134 wouldn't have happened or would have been MUCH differently.

 

Question 2 for me is a hard one, as there are a lot of characters you CAN do without but I would have loved it if all of them were written better and/or featured a lot more, if that was the case some of your choices wouldn't have been on you're list. But I WILL say this, removing Nate Morgan would have changed NOTHING in the comic, seriously ALL his parts can easily be written for Chuck and Rotor and you would have lost NOTHING in the process. That's who I would remove, personally I would have loved it if he was what he intended to be in SatAM, a Good Wizard that's an ally to the Freedom Fighters, hell you could have put in a good rivalry with SatAM Style Morgan and Naugus, Good vs. Evil Wizard and it would have been A LOT MORE INTERESTING then the Nate Morgan we got. Other then that I wouldn't really remove anyone in the comics, I would have just written them differently, Better, and/or showed them more often.

 

Question 3 I knew was going to be challenging, but I understand why most of you would have had the Game Adaptions as a different comic entirely, if that was the case you could possibly get a Sonic and Sonic Crossover in there! The way the games are featured in the comics now is pretty cool and I'm perfectly fine with that, but I would have tried to adapt almost EVERY Sonic game in the comic, I say almost because who would want to read an adaption of Sonic Labyrinth? Now they wouldn't be EXACTLY like the games but they would be closer enough then what we got in the earlier issues, which at times was okay to pretty damn good. Especially Sonic Spinball as the game LITERALLY had the SatAM cast in there, they really dropped the ball on that first adaption.
 

I made Question 4 as the hardest question in that list, maybe it wasn't as hard as I thought it was. But the way I would have ended it is MUCH differently then what you would expect, now you WOULD get you're final Sonic and Eggman battle but the conclusion of that would lead to the final story arc of the Archie Comic, simply put all hell would break loose! Two Old Enemies would reveal themselves and is using one of the main characters to END everything in order to become gods. Sonic, Everyone, and Eggman would probably have to team up and Eggman would end up killed and take down one of the bads with him. This Last Bad thinks he's gonna win it all but then "the puppet" would end up killing the last bad off, no longer being in control but with pretty much all the power. With the character's eyes opened to all reality and looking back on his or her life, they conclude that there is no point in anything and would rather end it all for their to be no more suffering. "The Puppet" is The Final Boss now. In the end we'd see Sonic, Sally, and The Boss in this white space where they both admit their faults to The Boss and they Reboot Everything. With that done we see a new Mobius looking much like how it did during the 1st Genesis Wave and Pre-3rd Genesis Wave, we see Mobotropolis, Angel Island, and all these locations and characters seeing where they are now in this new world, even some faces you wouldn't expect. After that we cut to what looks like Knothole Village, we see all the SatAM Freedom Fighters as they originally looked like with Sonic and Tails. Tails and the Freedom Fighters smile at Sonic and Sally, both of them look at each other and think "We're Home.", THE END. It's pretty out there but think about it, once Robotnik met Eggman in his Zone EVERYTHING changed (Or when Sonic first met Scourge), ever since then the Zones have been messed up, you could save Mobius and that's fine but what if Another Robotnik would just show up and start invading? If you fix the Multiverse of Archie Sonic you pretty much end the series, I highly doubt the comic would ever end like this but it's a lovely though. I don't know if this counts as a Gainax Ending but hey I'd be happy with that too, a Gainax Ending, that's how Archie Sonic should end. *shot*

I hope you guys liked my answers, let me know what you think as always and now 3 More Questions...

 

Question 1. If YOU were Sonic The Hedgehog, how would you handle the war and everything? What...this is a "What Would You Do Differently" Topic, no body said that it was bound to just doing the comic book.

Question 2. If Sally Acorn really did die during End Game, what would happen with Auto Sally that took her place and what do you think the rest of the comic would be like? How different would it be?

And Question 3. If you could remove one of the 3 Genesis Waves and have them not work, which one, why, and what effect would that have on the rest of the comic? THINK CAREFULLY NOW, because the end results may not be what you have wanted them to be...

 

Have fun guys.

 

 

 As for question one, I must say that this important to know if you ever wish to write for the character. 

 

 I'd have Sonic have more vulnrable moments. Even super-powers can't solve everything, they can even back fire. He would always be awesome and larger than life if it were up to me. But, I would defintely add more humanizing relatability. Instead of shock value via hurting his loved ones, I'd rather see Sonic deal with his own problems. Like fear, or dealing with a broken leg,  or heck even aging in the Mobius X stories would be intresting to see.

 

 I can't help but think of Batman Beyond and how Bruce is still one of the most intriguing and exciting characters because he is still competant but weighed down by the challange of age. We always route for the underdog who gets back up after a hard punch. SEGA wants to pull him off as a two-dimensional escapist demi-God, but I'd rather him be a complex character with a meaningful and impacting story to tell. It's a "for all ages" story, so why not give us themes we all can relate with?  We all have been hurt. Bailed out of something. Felt apprehension. Have been weighed down by some form of debilitation. Why can't Sonic? As long as he gets back in the end, and hits harder because he had to learn to overcome, you can build up an empowering story that could be more than just mere escapism, it could encourage people and give them a moral which they can apply to their own lives. And that one of the highest virtues a writer can aspire to, creating relatable characters and commentary that can impact the reader's lives for the better.

 

"Power creates problems, discretion solves them."

[Mike Arcade]

Shit, I probably should have made the question "How would you write Sonic?". I meant if you were in Sonic's shoes what would you do as the question originally, if you don't want to answer that then do how would you write Sonic then, I'm flexable.

[Mike Arcade]

 

Question 1. If YOU were Sonic The Hedgehog, how would you handle the war and everything? What...this is a "What Would You Do Differently" Topic, no body said that it was bound to just doing the comic book.

Question 2. If Sally Acorn really did die during End Game, what would happen with Auto Sally that took her place and what do you think the rest of the comic would be like? How different would it be?

And Question 3. If you could remove one of the 3 Genesis Waves and have them not work, which one, why, and what effect would that have on the rest of the comic? THINK CAREFULLY NOW, because the end results may not be what you have wanted them to be...

 

Have fun guys.

 

 

1. For the most part it would be the same, but I definitely would not take it so light-hearted; I'd be more out for blood.

 

2. I'm not too sure what you mean by "Auto Sally," but honestly if they would've killed her off like Penders intended I doubt the comic would still be around, at least not as it is. You probably would've seen a major reboot, much more serious than the one that just happened. I think that there would still be a comic, but it would be a completely new one, possibly no long done by Archie.

 

3. At this point it is very hard to say because we don't know what all of the effects have been from the second and third ones.

 

 

What I meant by Auto Sally is that the explanation on why Sally was acting so strange is that the Sally that woke up from the coma WASN'T Sally but an Automaton, I'm asking what would become of the Automaton. Also for the last question I want you guys to just go crazy with it, I mean really think about it but make you're own assumptions on what would you think would have happened.

[TheRedStranger]

Shit, I probably should have made the question "How would you write Sonic?". I meant if you were in Sonic's shoes what would you do as the question originally, if you don't want to answer that then do how would you write Sonic then, I'm flexable.

 

If I was Sonic, I'd first buy a pair of pants...I'm just too modest to be running around dressed up in only dress gloves and track sneakers.

 

 Then I would actually kill Eggman. Not kidding. I'd run half-across the world then just punch his face in. Then I'd surprise Scourge... 

 

 Scoruge: "In the end you are no different than me, Sonic... All it takes is one bad day-"

 

*Spin-dashes his head open*

 

 Sonic:"And I might just do something just like that. Now, who's up for some chilidogs?"

 

*Loots Scourge's corpse of it's wallet*

 

 Sonic: "Scrourge is buying! "

[Mike Arcade]

 

Shit, I probably should have made the question "How would you write Sonic?". I meant if you were in Sonic's shoes what would you do as the question originally, if you don't want to answer that then do how would you write Sonic then, I'm flexable.

 

If I was Sonic, I'd first buy a pair of pants...I'm just too modest to be running around dressed up in only dress gloves and sneakers.

 

 Then I would actually kill Eggman. Not kidding. I'd run half-across the world then just punch his face in. Then I'd surprise Scourge... 

 

 Scoruge: "In the end you are no different than me, Sonic... All it takes is one bad day-"

 

*Spin-dashes his head open*

 

 Sonic:"And I might just do something just like that. Now, who's up for some chilidogs?"

 

*Loots Scourge's corpse of it's wallet*

 

 Sonic: Scrourge is buying! 

 

 

Well, that escalated quickly, don't know if you're friends very much like you taking out guys left and right like a stone cold killer but Alright! I'll take that as an answer.

[TheRedStranger]

Fun real-life fact to add to that: I am actually an A-Division Special Olympian (which is for people with high-functioning conditions like dyslexia, HFA, or in my case aspergers).  My track team and baseball team both have nicknamed me Sonic for my speed. I love to run.

[Mike Arcade]

No kidding? That's cool dude.

[TheRedStranger]

No kidding? That's cool dude.

 

True as my gold metal in the 100 meter dash! Made state champion in my division this Summer. That is how I got the name.

 

In reality it's hyper-competitive and very edifying , shows like South Park, Family Guy, and modern media in general are a akin to blackface in their misrepresentation of guys like myself. I think Seth Mcfarlane and Trey Parker's work will someday be as ridiculed as those old racist Loony Toon shorts and flicks like Birth of A Nation. The irony - people like that call themselves "progressive." 

 

Back on topic.

 

 What would you do?

[Mike Arcade]

What would I do? Normally I wouldn't answer my own questions after waiting for you're answers but for this question sure why not.

 

So what would I do if I was Sonic, man what wouldn't I do? I'd aspire to be a chess master, anti hero, crazy son of a bitch!!! I'd make my own plans with the Freedom Fighters, I would help them to be the best they can be, and I would fight harder then anyone! If I see an opportunity to beat the living hell out of Robotnik I'd take it and capture the guy, with more then 7 emeralds all around I'd find enough to go Super, THEN I'd carry them out near Robotropolis (HIGHLY risky I know), Transform and raise hell in the city. Now of course ending it like that with his capture can lead to a WHOLE bunch of changes a consquences, such as if Eggman shows up having two Robotniks working together or fighting each other is gonna be a bitch to handle, I would admit my faults and take responsibility for my actions, not to mention trying to find and save Fiona to save myself guilt and a headache. I'd also try to learn as much stuff as I can, tech, magic, anything I can get my hands on. With Speed and Potential like that I would NOT let it go to waste. Fighting other enemies would be trickier though, for Scourge on the other hand I would either keep fighting and beating him down until I can convince him to join my side, OR trick him into being an Anti Hero. What would I do differently if I was Sonic? EVERYTHING. That's not to say Sonic's choices have been BAD or anything, just uh...he's messed up...like, a lot. I probably would too, who can blame him.

Now, how would I WRITE Sonic? Personally my favorite incarnation of the character (SANS the games) HAS to go to STC Sonic, so maybe I would write him similar to how he is in STC then? Honestly you can write Sonic in A LOT of ways if you really think about it. BUT I would show his flaws more, and him slowly realizing them. Maybe I wouldn't write him too differently in the Archie Comic, if anything showing his flaws and overcoming them in the series would be great! I have my own interpretations of Sonic, but for the Archie Series seeing more of his flaws and actually starting to slowly realize them would balance him out A LOT more in the comic, recently though he's been pretty cool. Just a bit more polish and he would be a better character.

 

I have more answers, but so do you guys too, so answer away and I'll share you mine.
 

[LogiTeeka]

In reality it's hyper-competitive and very edifying , shows like South Park, Family Guy, and modern media in general are a akin to blackface in their misrepresentation of guys like myself. I think Seth Mcfarlane and Trey Parker's work will someday be as ridiculed as those old racist Loony Toon shorts and flicks like Birth of A Nation. The irony - people like that call themselves "progressive." 

 

Stuff like that happens all the time. What was once acceptable years ago suddenly becomes something to be ashamed of.

 

Heck, a few decades from now, shows like "Spongebob", "Fairy Odd Parents" and "Robot Chicken" will be considered offensive for featuring stereotypes of nerds, goths, and jocks for whatever reason.

[TheRedStranger]

 

In reality it's hyper-competitive and very edifying , shows like South Park, Family Guy, and modern media in general are a akin to blackface in their misrepresentation of guys like myself. I think Seth Mcfarlane and Trey Parker's work will someday be as ridiculed as those old racist Loony Toon shorts and flicks like Birth of A Nation. The irony - people like that call themselves "progressive." 

 

Stuff like that happens all the time. What was once acceptable years ago suddenly becomes something to be ashamed of.

 

Heck, a few decades from now, shows like "Spongebob", "Fairy Odd Parents" and "Robot Chicken" will be considered offensive for featuring stereotypes of nerds, goths, and jocks for whatever reason.

 

 

  Exactly. To qoute a favorite author of mine: "Your grandchildren will probably be embarrassed by what you believe ."

 

The reasons will be more concise in this case for being purely exploitative of a people group who rarely have a voice (I'm sorry but if these dolts knew what these poor kids go through...the stories can be horrifying). Cartoons like Spongebob are more absurd and we all know it's just lighthearted sillyness in the end, but then there are the shows that try to be more "mature" that capitalize on cheap shots mixed dangerously with inane and specious social commentary. Due to their very nature they reinforce misconceptions in the viewer (who usually absorbs anything and everything in the show non-critically anyways) . It's sad to see such comedic potential squandered (I can't lie, they have the touch, they have the power) . But, imagine what good their humor could have brought to the world if they just took the time to write more proactive and illuminating comedy. Comedy can be an amazing at making a point, too bad that point is made by people so blunt.

[Mike Arcade]

Guys I like to hear you both talk, and I don't mean to be rude but let's keep on topic here.

[TheRedStranger]

I hear you.

 

 Hey, you didn't awnser my question. What would you do?

[Mike Arcade]

I hear you.

 

 Hey, you didn't awnser my question. What would you do?

I DID answer the question, look at the post above Logi's recent post here.

[TheRedStranger]

 

I hear you.

 

 Hey, you didn't awnser my question. What would you do?

I DID answer the question, look at the post above Logi's recent post here.

 

 

Opps. 

[Mike Arcade]

It's cool man, now guys let's get those answers going!!!!!!!

[TheRedStranger]

I want to go back Mike's question about the future Mobius stuff.

 

 I would rather see one either that pulls a Batman Beyond where Sonic is much older and has to train up a sucessor.

 

 Or, one in the near future that shows an adult Sonic deal with some post-eggman problems (like an invasion, new bad-guy, or a civil war).You could pool an Agnahim and have the new bad guy try to bring back Eggman in the midst of some political strife, when the kingdom is weakest. and have the heros try to stop it from happening while dealing with the said internal struggle.  Make it out to where Sally and him hit a big disagreement during a certain plot point, and they seperated (just to add tension to the romantic arc when the meet again.) Sonic went on his own, became a traveling adventurer, and now they have to find him to stop the new Big Bad.  I would end this with a very Star Trek Six-like ending, very open to where the conflict is over and the adventures from then on could continue in the works of the fans.  

[Mike Arcade]

Nice man, geez I'm not getting a lot of answers here, I guess when I ask if Mobius was a Sally-less World I chased everyone off. Ehh I'll wait for one more response before I ask some more questions, But hey I'll call this now, ALL older questions are free reign just so as long as you say what the questions are.

[TheRedStranger]

Nice man, geez I'm not getting a lot of answers here, I guess when I ask if Mobius was a Sally-less World I chased everyone off. Ehh I'll wait for one more response before I ask some more questions, But hey I'll call this now, ALL older questions are free reign just so as long as you say what the questions are.

 

 We must have Sally. There is no other option!

As for the Genisis Waves, I would probably never write something that far fetched. In a perfect world I would have preplanned to where I'd never have retcon anything anyways. And if I did it would be a time travel story.