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[TheRedStranger]

 

 

 Makes sense. My inner villan has always told me, that Sally would be the easiest to sway to the dark-side via a series of morally questionable decisions in the name of the greater good.

 

 "I sense great hate in you, young Acorn..."

 

 Sounds like Sonic is please with that fact. *rubs hands together* "Good...good..."

 

 

Personally I'd have no qualms with offing Robotnik either. I really think Sally is the one more capable of killing than Sonic; while she seems to be the most stable and rational, she is actually emotionally fragile. I could just imagine what would happen if something happened to Tails and she witnessed it... it wouldn't be pretty.

 

 

 

 So far I have been impressed with your awnsers, andI see you have a good understanding of the finer, subtler points of the show. How would you like to be a creative consultant for my episodic fan-fiction (warning, you get some spoilers)? Essentially we bounce ideas off each other before I set it down on paper, kind of like a test audience for the conceptual-phase. You can message me your awnser.

[Mike Arcade]

Well, might as well throw myself into the ring!

 

Q: What's up with the Space Bar?

A: I have no idea, my guess is that the robots built the bar or Robotnik made the bots and bar the way they are as a sort of "vacation" spot and to interact with something as a secondary purpose for the shuttle, as Robotnik is obsessed with turning everything into machines even someone like him needs to socialize in order to maintain his sanity. That or they are all failed AI tested robots that were sent to work at the shuttle and one thing lead to another. Why would Robotnik want to make more Advanced AI can have many answers alone.

 

Q: Sonic's Origin and details on how he works with magic.
A: A number of things could have happened, the easiest answer would be it's like in the Archie Comic, he was born with Super Speed and parents are missing similar to the comic. My guess is that in SatAM, Sonic was either born fast or there was an incident with a Power Ring (or Ring Generator) and Sonic ended up fast. I could also say that one of his parent's was super fast and died during the war, it could be possible only if Robotnik wasn't involved in that parent's murder though as then he would have experience taking someone who has speed out, if that was the case he shouldn't have had a problem with Sonic. As for how Sonic uses Magic (mainly the rings) could be that Sonic is just naturally gifted, or maybe one of his parents was a mage, which could be possible too.
 

Q: What is the price of magic? What types are there? How do characters understand it?
A: In SatAM I'm not sure, perhaps the possibility of becoming corrupted by using too much magic? An extended lifespan that let's you see everyone around you die? It could be a number of things, like an altered state of mind or something. The types of Magic however is a little tricky, from what we've seen in the show itself we have Ring Magic (Rings and Power Stones), "Ixis" Magic (and/or Void Magic), and Time Magic (I call it Kronos Magic). Not sure if I'm missing any other types as I haven't really watched the show in awhile. Perhaps we would have been introduced the Chaos Magic later on if the show continued, and some of you know how I think THAT works. As for how characters understand it, it must vary for everyone I guess. Sonic and Naugus (among a few others I forget) seem to have this natural understanding and can tap into it through pure will. How that is possible however was never explained, but I think I can conjure up a theory that I can share at a later date.

Q: Does Sonic have the guts or not?
A: Man this is a tough question here...maybe, if he was pushed hard enough. It is understandable in all the medias why they don't kill them, they want to do it the right way they were taught as kids to abide by. It may end up with much more suffering (see the Archie Comic) but that's what a good guy does. It's the same question why Batman doesn't kill the Joker, honestly THERE IS NO RIGHT ANSWER FOR IT, it's as simple as that because every counterargument can be countered and so on and so forth.

 

[TheRedStranger]

Roboticization. How does it work?

[Alextendo]

Roboticization. How does it work?

It must be a sophisticated system that convert flesh into metal....we are left to figure out how it can be done...

 

I remember Sally saying in one episode of SatAM that the robotisation was still a mystery (even for them)

[Uncle Ben]

Roboticization. How does it work?

 

Unknown. It was never fully explain. It was mentioned a few times that they had no clue how it worked. Chuck said it was ment to be used to prolong life but it robbed free will.

 

My guess is that it probably has something to do with changing genetics and molecules into coding and alloys. Like it slows down the internal clock until its a standstil and then replaces organic material with metallic alloys and curcittry

Sonic's origin? Who's brave enough to take a dramatic stab at that? We know his powers somehow interact with magic (see upper posts for details), but how so?

 

Born normally with a genetic mutation or he just happened to be a running prodigy to the max

[LogiTeeka]

Roboticization. How does it work?

 

Nanites designed to break down one's biological structure at a molecular level and physically replace it with cybernetic parts perhaps?

[RedAuthar]

Roboticization. How does it work?

Easy.  Machine turn flesh bags into Robots.  Problem Solved.

 

Uncle Chuck said it was designed to assist older people, likely like an artificial hip, hearing aid, and the like.  Probably what it was designed to do is fix the feeble bones in the body by turning them mechanical.  Likely the eyes and ears were changed to improve eyesight and hearing.  However the thing went too far turning the Mobian into a machine, also robbing them of free will.  However it's possible the Mobians do retain their minds, as Uncle Chuck was aware of the Crystal being extracted.  

[TheRedStranger]

 

Roboticization. How does it work?

Easy.  Machine turn flesh bags into Robots.  Problem Solved.

 

Uncle Chuck said it was designed to assist older people, likely like an artificial hip, hearing aid, and the like.  Probably what it was designed to do is fix the feeble bones in the body by turning them mechanical.  Likely the eyes and ears were changed to improve eyesight and hearing.  However the thing went too far turning the Mobian into a machine, also robbing them of free will.  However it's possible the Mobians do retain their minds, as Uncle Chuck was aware of the Crystal being extracted.  

 

 

 Think of the implications of that...you are fully aware of your actions but unable to do anything about it. Paralyzed in your own numb and metallic body .Fridge horror at it's finest.

 

Roboticization. How does it work?

 

Nanites designed to break down one's biological structure at a molecular level and physically replace it with cybernetic parts perhaps?

 

 

That was my thought. Snivly also mentions something called "a ferrite field". Ferrus is the Latin word for iron. So essentialy "ferrite" means ironization field. 

[TheRedStranger]

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

[Alextendo]

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

C'est une excellente question! Est ce que quelqu'un connais la réponse?

 

(i could translate for you, but that would be too easy)

[LogiTeeka]

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

 

Since Mobius is hinted to be a post-apocalyptic Earth (not just the comics, but also in Ben Hurst's notes), it's easy to assume the legacy of Earth's past culture survived into the Mobian era. Antoine having [stereotypical] French attributes could be the result of his family passing down certain Earthling customs that the Mobian race adopted into their daily life.

 

The same could be said for all the other Mobian cultures; the Wolf Pack have Native American customs and Spanish dialect, Bunnie and her family had a Confederate American lifestyle, and the inhabitants of Tashistan had Middle Easternesque habits.

 

But it isn't just the Earthling culture that survived, pop culture also lived on. In the comics, Sonic mentions his favorite superheroes: the "Rush" (the Flash), the "Dark Bat" (Batman), and "Super Surfer" (Silver Surfer); and Rotor keeps toy models from both "Star Wars" and "Star Trek" in his room. And in the television series, Antoine attempts to quote the "Terminator" in "Ro-Becca" and Manic mentions "Titanic" upon spotting an iceberg in "The Big Melt".

[Prince ByTor]

Roboticization. How does it work?

 

As others have said, they never fully explained it, however in Sonic's Nightmare, and Blast From the Past we see the process take place. It seems to convert biological matter into metals directly; any Mobian that is Robotisized maintains their basic shape, it's just replacing the fleshy parts with synthetic ones, i.e. eyes are replaced with sensors and such. I figure other parts like the brain and heart are replaced with synthetic parts that perform the same function.

 

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

 

In SatAM Antoine is supposedly a squire from the "Dom Provence" (my spelling is probably off), as read by Snively in Spyhog. Essentially Mobius' equivalent of France or a Francophone region of King Max's kingdom.

[TheRedStranger]

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

C'est une excellente question! Est ce que quelqu'un connais la réponse?

 

(i could translate for you, but that would be too easy)

 

 

"Ne pas juger un homme par la qualité de ses réponses, mais la qualité de ses questions." - Voltaire 

 

Merci, j'essaye.   

 

I have been practicing for Antoine's diologue in my fan-fiction. I have the fortune to be a student in Latin and Spanish, so it's easier picking up French (which is a close cusion). Just don't ask me to prononuce it yet, I am from Kentucky so ma prononciation is more like Bunny's than Antoine's  . Biblical Greek (Koine) and Rabbinic Hebrew are next on my big list.

[Mike Arcade]

Sorry that I had no response to Roboticization, as most of you guys already gave good answers to it, I couldn't really think of anything else to add to that. With that said, time to move on to the next question!
 

French Mobians, how do you work!?! Well according to the man himself, it was established in a "white paper" outline (it doesn't mean this is the defendant truth, but it's the only one we have) that Robotnik and Snively were from Mobius in the distant past, which is actually Earth, that Robotnik tried to take over a satellite colony but ended up crashing it killing everyone but them. What happened after the year 2200 in our time is unknown, but later on (who knows when) nuclear warfare ended up wiping out all human life and out of that the first Mobians were born and Earth would then be known by them as Mobius. Now with that explanation it is possible that somehow Mobians adapted cultures from us such as being French or a Southern Bell, the reason for that could be a number of things. Early Mobians could have found some remnants of our culture and learned from that or naturally (and unconsciously) channeled our culture by either some form of genetic memory or by pure cosmic coincidence. The next theory (which could also be possible) is that Mobius is an Earth from an alternate dimension that took a course very similar to our world, hence why Mobians similar to having cultures like ours. Either reason is completely possible but for SatAM I kinda like the first one better as it's pretty damn official and makes a good lick of sense.

The World of SatAM Mobius is a big place and the show probably only scratched the surface of it, what other countries and territories it might have is unknown, but it being similar to how Archie Sonic's Mobius works is very possible. The places would probably not have the same names but who knows.

 

[FrDougal9000]

Okay, two big questions come to mind:

 

What happened to Sonic's parents? It could be assumed they were robotocized but in the Blast to the Past episodes, we see young Sonic livin' with his uncle, so just where are they?

 

If Rotor wants to build a robotic assistant, let him. He probably needs help anyways but just why did he make it look like a furry Bride of Frankenstein?! (Is Rotor just really kinky or something?)

[LogiTeeka]

What happened to Sonic's parents? It could be assumed they were robotocized but in the Blast to the Past episodes, we see young Sonic livin' with his uncle, so just where are they?

 

For those who fallow the Archie comics, Sonic's parents were soldiers that fought in the Great War. His father, Jules, was gravely injured in battle and was the first Mobian to undergo the roboticization process to heal his wounds. Unfortunately, this ended up removing his free will and turned him into a mindless robot. Robotnik caught wind of this and began making plans to use the device to his advantage. Sonic's mother, Bernadette, was caught spying on him and was roboticized as well. With no one left to raise his nephew, Chuck left the Science Administration out of guilt and raised Sonic in the chilidog business.

 

But fans who don't read the comics have many different interpretations. Since "Sonic Underground" was originally a concept intended for SatAM, some like to view it as the "unoffical" prequel/spinoff to DIC's SatAM continuity. Despite that, they never reveal what became of his father in either series. But if both shows exist in a universe (or universes) parallel to Mobius Prime, a variation of Archie's backstory could've happened.

 

Though seeing how the Archie series is currently getting a "semi-reboot", Jules' backstory may no longer exist due to him and Bernadette being among Penders' characters.

[Alextendo]

 

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

C'est une excellente question! Est ce que quelqu'un connais la réponse?

 

(i could translate for you, but that would be too easy)

 

"Ne pas juger un homme par la qualité de ses réponses, mais la qualité de ses questions." - Voltaire 

Ah, come on! My question wasn't THAT bad. It was more of a test for those who aren't speaking french more than a real question.

[TheRedStranger]

 

 

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

C'est une excellente question! Est ce que quelqu'un connais la réponse?

 

(i could translate for you, but that would be too easy)

 

"Ne pas juger un homme par la qualité de ses réponses, mais la qualité de ses questions." - Voltaire 

Ah, come on! My question wasn't THAT bad. It was more of a test for those who aren't speaking french more than a real question.

 

 

 Actually that qoute was in refrence to the nice compliment you gave me ("C'est une excellente question! "). Your question wasn't bad at all, I was merely saying thank you. 

[Alextendo]

 

 

 

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

C'est une excellente question! Est ce que quelqu'un connais la réponse?

 

(i could translate for you, but that would be too easy)

 

"Ne pas juger un homme par la qualité de ses réponses, mais la qualité de ses questions." - Voltaire 

Ah, come on! My question wasn't THAT bad. It was more of a test for those who aren't speaking french more than a real question.

 

 Actually that qoute was in refrence to the nice compliment you gave me ("C'est une excellente question! "). Your question wasn't bad at all, I was merely saying thank you. 

Oh, sorry. I guess i've read it in the wrong way

 

No prob

[RedAuthar]

If Rotor wants to build a robotic assistant, let him. He probably needs help anyways but just why did he make it look like a furry Bride of Frankenstein?! (Is Rotor just really kinky or something?)

Likely she was built by Spare Parts.  Remember the Freedom Fighters' supplies come from stealing from Robotnik.

 

Though Considering she has a Robian-esque head.....did they scavenge a dead Robian to build her?

 

 

Antoine is a Mobian and french... a French Mobian? How the heck does that work?

My thoughts were always that he's not really French.  I don't recall anytime in SatAM that they actually said he was French (though I may be just forgetting), so I always thought he just spoke a different Mobian Language that they used a French Accent to Represent.  

 

Even if Mobius is Future Earth, there is a chance His language isn't actually French, but derived from it, and that to make things simpler they used a French Accent to represent it rather than making up one.