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[Prince ByTor]

The Time Stones. What happend to them? Why not use them again?

 

Not sure; I'm guessing they are on the floating island being guarded. Perhaps like RedAuthar said, they're too much of a risk to use.

[brmsort]

 

The Time Stones. What happend to them? Why not use them again?

 

Not sure; I'm guessing they are on the floating island being guarded. Perhaps like RedAuthar said, they're too much of a risk to use.

 

I second the "too risky to use again" point. Sally and Sonic almost got the Great Forest destroyed the only time they used them. Sure they got Rosie back, but still. They would definitely only be used as a last of last resorts.

[TheRedStranger]

Robecca. Why Roter? Just why would you want that as your lab-assistant?

[RedAuthar]

Robecca. Why Roter? Just why would you want that as your lab-assistant?

Actually that one is a bit easy.

 

First:  Her personality is a glitch.  Rotor likely intended her to speak and act differently.

Second:  She was likely built by spare parts, thus giving her a kind of banged up appearance.

Third:  Rotor is usually considered a geek or sci-fi fanatic, he likely built her for the sake of building her.  

 

My worry is...her head looks Robian.  Did he use Robian parts to build her?

[TheRedStranger]

 

Robecca. Why Roter? Just why would you want that as your lab-assistant?

Actually that one is a bit easy.

 

First:  Her personality is a glitch.  Rotor likely intended her to speak and act differently.

Second:  She was likely built by spare parts, thus giving her a kind of banged up appearance.

Third:  Rotor is usually considered a geek or sci-fi fanatic, he likely built her for the sake of building her.  

 

My worry is...her head looks Robian.  Did he use Robian parts to build her?

 

 

That would be like sowing a human head on your guard dog...sound a bit ethically questionable for a Freedom Fighter, eh?

[RedAuthar]

Exactly.

[TheRedStranger]

Exactly.

 

http://tvtropes.org/...in/FridgeHorror

[Prince ByTor]

Robecca. Why Roter? Just why would you want that as your lab-assistant?

 

Oi, things have slowed down here.

 

Anyway, to answer the question: it was an Antoine episode and thus it just doesn't make sense anyway and to put it bluntly is "crap."

However, with Rotor being the boffin amongst the Freedom Fighters it only seems logical that he would meddle with all things mechanical, including automatons. If he really needed an assistant it would be easier to employ Tails as one, so I agree with RedAuthar, Rotor probably built Robecca for no other reason than just to build a robot. As far as the Mobian head, why would he not make it look like a Mobain? I suppose it would make more sense if he made her a walrus, but a cat works as well. I'm sure he wouldn't make her look like a human since Robotnik and Snively were probably the only other non-Mobians he had ever seen.

 

Anyway, that's my two pennies.

[TheRedStranger]

How do the Freedom Fighters supply themselves for all their needs?

[RedAuthar]

Food is grown as shown in Sonic and Sally.

 

Water is gathered through the river.  Power is supplied through the Water Wheel.

 

Most of their tech is stolen and modified from Robotnik's.  

[TheRedStranger]

Food is grown as shown in Sonic and Sally.

 

Water is gathered through the river.  Power is supplied through the Water Wheel.

 

Most of their tech is stolen and modified from Robotnik's.  

 

Medicine?

[Prince ByTor]

They must have a canning process as we see Sonic opening a can of chili sauce in "Odd Couple," but again, that's an Antoine episode....

If they want meat they probably hunt for it in the forest, and we saw Sonic fishing in "Sub Sonic," so that's also a place to get meat.

 

Now as far as medicine; I can't think of an instance in the show, but I suppose someone; maybe Rosie or another Freedom Fighter would probably know how to make natural remedies. I mean, they've been out there in the wilds for over 10 years; I'm sure they all had sickness of some kind.

[Uncle Ben]

 

Food is grown as shown in Sonic and Sally.

 

Water is gathered through the river.  Power is supplied through the Water Wheel.

 

Most of their tech is stolen and modified from Robotnik's.  

 

Medicine?

 

 

Herbal if anything

[TheRedStranger]

They must have a canning process as we see Sonic opening a can of chili sauce in "Odd Couple," but again, that's an Antoine episode....

If they want meat they probably hunt for it in the forest, and we saw Sonic fishing in "Sub Sonic," so that's also a place to get meat.

 

Now as far as medicine; I can't think of an instance in the show, but I suppose someone; maybe Rosie or another Freedom Fighter would probably know how to make natural remedies. I mean, they've been out there in the wilds for over 10 years; I'm sure they all had sickness of some kind.

 

 The laws of the universe seem to explode into absurdity around Antoine...

 

 I think there is a lot of good plot potential to have them scavaging the wastes and wilderness for important supplies (besides those...er... Caterpensamgierswhosiewhatsiethings). Mobians would have different needs than us, and in more variety. Diversity equals diverse pros...and diverse cons. I wonder what disease they would be resistant to that we get and vice versa. Also, medicine could be found in abadoned pharmacies and apothacaries and with Nicole there is a possiblity they have some form of vast botanical index to exploit the Great Forest for medical purposes. 

 

 Sonic hunting...that would be cool to see.

[Uncle Ben]

 

They must have a canning process as we see Sonic opening a can of chili sauce in "Odd Couple," but again, that's an Antoine episode....

If they want meat they probably hunt for it in the forest, and we saw Sonic fishing in "Sub Sonic," so that's also a place to get meat.

 

Now as far as medicine; I can't think of an instance in the show, but I suppose someone; maybe Rosie or another Freedom Fighter would probably know how to make natural remedies. I mean, they've been out there in the wilds for over 10 years; I'm sure they all had sickness of some kind.

 

 The laws of the universe seem to explode into absurdity around Antoine...

 

 I think there is a lot of good plot potential to have them scavaging the wastes and wilderness for important supplies (besides those...er... Caterpensamgierswhosiewhatsiethings). Mobians would have different needs than us, and in more variety. Diversity equals diverse pros...and diverse cons. I wonder what disease they would be resistant to that we get and vice versa. Also, medicine could be found in abadoned pharmacies and apothacaries and with Nicole there is a possiblity they have some form of vast botanical index to exploit the Great Forest for medical purposes. 

 

 Sonic hunting...that would be cool to see.

 

 

i could see Sonic wearing an explorers hat

[TheRedStranger]

 

 

They must have a canning process as we see Sonic opening a can of chili sauce in "Odd Couple," but again, that's an Antoine episode....

If they want meat they probably hunt for it in the forest, and we saw Sonic fishing in "Sub Sonic," so that's also a place to get meat.

 

Now as far as medicine; I can't think of an instance in the show, but I suppose someone; maybe Rosie or another Freedom Fighter would probably know how to make natural remedies. I mean, they've been out there in the wilds for over 10 years; I'm sure they all had sickness of some kind.

 

 The laws of the universe seem to explode into absurdity around Antoine...

 

 I think there is a lot of good plot potential to have them scavaging the wastes and wilderness for important supplies (besides those...er... Caterpensamgierswhosiewhatsiethings). Mobians would have different needs than us, and in more variety. Diversity equals diverse pros...and diverse cons. I wonder what disease they would be resistant to that we get and vice versa. Also, medicine could be found in abadoned pharmacies and apothacaries and with Nicole there is a possiblity they have some form of vast botanical index to exploit the Great Forest for medical purposes. 

 

 Sonic hunting...that would be cool to see.

 

 

I could see them scavenging for a couple of years after the coup, however, other than the most basic of medicines: i.e. aspirin and sulfur drugs, they have a shelf-life just like with canned goods. I, personally would not trust drugs that are far past their expiration date... however, in a post-apocalyptic world expired medications might prove other, non-medical uses.

 

What about Bunny suffering from metal allergies? Also, where metal meets flesh there would also be irritation of the skin. Bunny would be a medical miracle unto herself.

 

 

Indeed Bunny could need analgesic and some form of dialyisis for any potential metal poisoning. 

 

 Let's dive into this...How does Bunny as a cybernetic organism tick? What makes her arms and legs function properly despite her organic nueral interface?

 

 My own ideas are focused on Roboticization being designed originaly as a partial process for certain limbs and organs. In fact after hearing Snivly mention someone as the Roboticization device having  a "a 99% Roboticization factor" in one episode I thought there could be some organic nueral tissue cased within the circuts. Afterall the brain is the greatest miralce of design in the known universe. "Unlike computers, our brains are self-organizing, self-governing, and self-repairing - " Nuerologist David A. Dewitt. I read an excellent article from this fellow about the complex mechanizations of the human brain and how it uses memories to create new possibilties, and the human minds capacity for creative thought as well as it's plasticity within the sysnapses to constantly grow and change throughout life. With billions of synapsis and trillions of synaptic connections, it's complexities would boggle even Robotnik (who is not as smart as he let's on). I think their central nervous system somehow stays largely perserved, enwrapped in steel. I think the peripheral is the one comprimsed and regulated by some form of programing. When the lower brain is however not Roboticized are not somehow "infected" by roboticization one's roboticized internals interface decently with an organ brain (though, let's be honest our mobility, healing, sense, and capcity for growth seriously outweighs the brute strength of a clunky steel arm). A human arm can be conditioned to be incredbly powerful anyways. And genetic conditioning, bio-feedback therpy,, and medicine can really supplant the need for cybernetics aging wise (though these sciences haven't been fully explored in the series).

[Uncle Ben]

I think the wiring/cybernetics in her arm and legs are connected to her centeral nervous system.

[TheRedStranger]

 

 

Indeed Bunny could need analgesic and some form of dialyisis for any potential metal poisoning. 

 

 Let's dive into this...How does Bunny as a cybernetic organism tick? What makes her arms and legs function properly despite her organic nueral interface?

 

 

That's a big question, which, I believe has never been answered in either the comic or the show. If you remember in Super Sonic she jams the dinobot's jaws open using her left arm. Now what apparently is still organic is her core, right arm and neck/head, but we don't know what is going on underneath. From that scene alone you can surmise that her skeletal structure as well as muscular structure is also robotic. This could be like from the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe giant mechs' "muscles" which are "mynomer bundles:" a synthetic muscle that expands and contracts under electrical impulses. This could also just be down her left side and spine, but again, we do not know what is going on inside. From her character in SatAM, I believe her left side is covered with her purple leotard, so she might have metal under her clothes on that side.

Whatever the case, her brain and central nervous system is organic, but I could say that her peripheral nervous system; at least in the robotic is probably synthetic. Now, I don't know what the interface between the two would be, but if Uncle Chuck designed the robotisizer to make the elderly live longer, he might have built to help those who were injured or perhaps missing limbs, so it might've been built into the machine's code and Robotnik wouldn't know the difference.

 

I might be off, but that is one explanation.

 

 

 Makes me wonder now that the first roboticizor is no longer used what could happen to someone partially roboticized? The same thing? Or would they be paralyzed in those limbs? 

[brmsort]

Off topic, I always wonder why no one ever pairs Rotor with Bunny; that relationship would make a lot of sense. She would have a husband that could fix her robotic parts if something was to happen.

 

 

That's kind of on topic. Rotor's character doesn't really lend itself to romantics being that he is the absent-minded professor type. Bunnie, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who would fall for the quiet, reliable type, just like Rotor. I think it is even stranger that the comics paired her up with Antoine, since as time went by, she became increasingly frustrated with his antics. I think even if Antoine were to become less chicken, his bravado and OCD would drive her nuts.

So I think Bunnie would definitely fall for Rotor; getting Rotor to notice her is another story.

[RedAuthar]

 

Off topic, I always wonder why no one ever pairs Rotor with Bunny; that relationship would make a lot of sense. She would have a husband that could fix her robotic parts if something was to happen.

 

 

That's kind of on topic. Rotor's character doesn't really lend itself to romantics being that he is the absent-minded professor type. Bunnie, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who would fall for the quiet, reliable type, just like Rotor. I think it is even stranger that the comics paired her up with Antoine, since as time went by, she became increasingly frustrated with his antics. I think even if Antoine were to become less chicken, his bravado and OCD would drive her nuts.

So I think Bunnie would definitely fall for Rotor; getting Rotor to notice her is another story.

 

Another add to that is Ken Penders had intended to make Rotor Homosexual in his writings of the Archie comics.  While that shouldn't effect SatAM, it left a lot of fans questioning Rotor's preferences.

 

Ian Flynn retconned that story out. 

 

I don't think Ben Hurst ever paired anyone other than Sonic and Sally.