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[Prince ByTor]

The Void. It has no origin, it has little explanation. Care to speculate in the context of the show?

 

Well, we knew Naugus discovered it, or at least was the first to find it and live to tell about it. Also, Robotnik seemed to have an ability to control it; which is the reason why Him and Naugus had the uneasy partnership. Naugus was very interested in it, enough to risk his life on it and to trust Robotnik! He said in The Void episode that the crystals amplified his powers, which would explain it, but there was a price to pay, and we all know what that was.

Anyway, if I had to speculate what this void was, it was an extra-dimensional piece of space/time where all magic crystals possibly originated; perhaps this dimension is where 'magic' on Mobius comes from? Maybe the crystals are crystallized "magic power?"

[TheRedStranger]

 

The Void. It has no origin, it has little explanation. Care to speculate in the context of the show?

 

Well, we knew Naugus discovered it, or at least was the first to find it and live to tell about it. Also, Robotnik seemed to have an ability to control it; which is the reason why Him and Naugus had the uneasy partnership. Naugus was very interested in it, enough to risk his life on it and to trust Robotnik! He said in The Void episode that the crystals amplified his powers, which would explain it, but there was a price to pay, and we all know what that was.

Anyway, if I had to speculate what this void was, it was an extra-dimensional piece of space/time where all magic crystals possibly originated; perhaps this dimension is where 'magic' on Mobius comes from? Maybe the crystals are crystallized "magic power?"

 

 

And perhaps this is the origination of the Crystal Computer and The Chaos Emeralds?

[Prince ByTor]

 

 

The Void. It has no origin, it has little explanation. Care to speculate in the context of the show?

 

Well, we knew Naugus discovered it, or at least was the first to find it and live to tell about it. Also, Robotnik seemed to have an ability to control it; which is the reason why Him and Naugus had the uneasy partnership. Naugus was very interested in it, enough to risk his life on it and to trust Robotnik! He said in The Void episode that the crystals amplified his powers, which would explain it, but there was a price to pay, and we all know what that was.

Anyway, if I had to speculate what this void was, it was an extra-dimensional piece of space/time where all magic crystals possibly originated; perhaps this dimension is where 'magic' on Mobius comes from? Maybe the crystals are crystallized "magic power?"

 

 

And perhaps this is the origination of the Crystal Computer and The Chaos Emeralds?

 

 

One can definitely infer that from the former, and perhaps the latter as well. It also seems to have an effect on matter that is exposed to its energy for too long; it caused the crystallizing of both the king and Naugus after being in The Void for too long.

 

 

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I should probably also add that the crystallization only takes place when they are away from the void, so it might be like their cells have been so permeated by it's energy that when not in direct contact with "Void Energy" their bodies crystallize?

[Uncle Ben]

Maybe the Power Rings is related to the Void in a way

[TheRedStranger]

 

 

 

The Void. It has no origin, it has little explanation. Care to speculate in the context of the show?

 

Well, we knew Naugus discovered it, or at least was the first to find it and live to tell about it. Also, Robotnik seemed to have an ability to control it; which is the reason why Him and Naugus had the uneasy partnership. Naugus was very interested in it, enough to risk his life on it and to trust Robotnik! He said in The Void episode that the crystals amplified his powers, which would explain it, but there was a price to pay, and we all know what that was.

Anyway, if I had to speculate what this void was, it was an extra-dimensional piece of space/time where all magic crystals possibly originated; perhaps this dimension is where 'magic' on Mobius comes from? Maybe the crystals are crystallized "magic power?"

 

 

And perhaps this is the origination of the Crystal Computer and The Chaos Emeralds?

 

 

One can definitely infer that from the former, and perhaps the latter as well. It also seems to have an effect on matter that is exposed to its energy for too long; it caused the crystallizing of both the king and Naugus after being in The Void for too long.

 

 

*EDIT*

 

I should probably also add that the crystallization only takes place when they are away from the void, so it might be like their cells have been so permeated by it's energy that when not in direct contact with "Void Energy" their bodies crystallize?

 

 

That could essentially be like frost bite. Where ice crystals form in cells and rupture them from the inside out. 

 

 If it is not completly lethal, the process could be reversable. Thoughts?

[Prince ByTor]

 

 

 

 

The Void. It has no origin, it has little explanation. Care to speculate in the context of the show?

 

Well, we knew Naugus discovered it, or at least was the first to find it and live to tell about it. Also, Robotnik seemed to have an ability to control it; which is the reason why Him and Naugus had the uneasy partnership. Naugus was very interested in it, enough to risk his life on it and to trust Robotnik! He said in The Void episode that the crystals amplified his powers, which would explain it, but there was a price to pay, and we all know what that was.

Anyway, if I had to speculate what this void was, it was an extra-dimensional piece of space/time where all magic crystals possibly originated; perhaps this dimension is where 'magic' on Mobius comes from? Maybe the crystals are crystallized "magic power?"

 

 

And perhaps this is the origination of the Crystal Computer and The Chaos Emeralds?

 

 

One can definitely infer that from the former, and perhaps the latter as well. It also seems to have an effect on matter that is exposed to its energy for too long; it caused the crystallizing of both the king and Naugus after being in The Void for too long.

 

 

*EDIT*

 

I should probably also add that the crystallization only takes place when they are away from the void, so it might be like their cells have been so permeated by it's energy that when not in direct contact with "Void Energy" their bodies crystallize?

 

 

That could essentially be like frost bite. Where ice crystals form in cells and rupture them from the inside out. 

 

 If it is not completly lethal, the process could be reversable. Thoughts?

 

 

It seems to have more to do with the energy emitted by The Void itself and the bodies or even objects that are exposed to it too long crystallize when it is absent.

[brmsort]

We know little about the Void. What do we know?

1. It amplifies magic, at least Naugus' magic.

2. It naturally seems to draw substances into it.

3. It normally requires some technological solution to exit. Naugus implies this when he tells Julian to recall him after an hour.

4. It seems to draw the life force, as Naugus says, from those who have been too long in it. The fact that Ari was able to leave confirms this.

5. It seems to be able to sustain people. The Void seems devoid of food, but the King, Ari, and Naugus appear healthy.

 

I believe that after an indefinite period of time, the Void and its otherworldly energies that sustain its occupants become "entangled" with the souls (i.e., life forces) of the occupants. Somehow this entangling has to be undone for Naugus and the King to leave. I believe Robotnik's recall program alters the properties of the Void to allow this.  Just my idea.

[TheRedStranger]

We know little about the Void. What do we know?

1. It amplifies magic, at least Naugus' magic.

2. It naturally seems to draw substances into it.

3. It normally requires some technological solution to exit. Naugus implies this when he tells Julian to recall him after an hour.

4. It seems to draw the life force, as Naugus says, from those who have been too long in it. The fact that Ari was able to leave confirms this.

5. It seems to be able to sustain people. The Void seems devoid of food, but the King, Ari, and Naugus appear healthy.

 

I believe that after an indefinite period of time, the Void and its otherworldly energies that sustain its occupants become "entangled" with the souls (i.e., life forces) of the occupants. Somehow this entangling has to be undone for Naugus and the King to leave. I believe Robotnik's recall program alters the properties of the Void to allow this.  Just my idea.

 

This is a fair observation and we should take these five points in accont while considering all possibilites.

 

Now let's take the idea of Sea3on into account. The idea that it is the transition that causes the crytalization process.

[Prince ByTor]

 

We know little about the Void. What do we know?

1. It amplifies magic, at least Naugus' magic.

2. It naturally seems to draw substances into it.

3. It normally requires some technological solution to exit. Naugus implies this when he tells Julian to recall him after an hour.

4. It seems to draw the life force, as Naugus says, from those who have been too long in it. The fact that Ari was able to leave confirms this.

5. It seems to be able to sustain people. The Void seems devoid of food, but the King, Ari, and Naugus appear healthy.

 

I believe that after an indefinite period of time, the Void and its otherworldly energies that sustain its occupants become "entangled" with the souls (i.e., life forces) of the occupants. Somehow this entangling has to be undone for Naugus and the King to leave. I believe Robotnik's recall program alters the properties of the Void to allow this.  Just my idea.

 

This is a fair observation and we should take these five points in accont while considering all possibilites.

 

Now let's take the idea of Sea3on into account. The idea that it the transition that causes the crytalization process.

 

 

I can't remember everything about it, but there was something to do with Dr. Robotnik taking Naugus' place in the void that allowed him to escape sans crystallization. If I remember right there was something Ben Hurst mentioned about this....

[Uncle Ben]

the void is the matrix

[TheRedStranger]

the void is the matrix

 

Ixis Nuagus = Morpheus?

[Uncle Ben]

 

the void is the matrix

 

Ixis Nuagus = Morpheus?

 

 

[TheRedStranger]

The Mandarrins and The Deep Power Stone. What are they? Who are they? And how do these power stones empower people?

[Uncle Ben]

 

Naw im kidding i have no clue

[LogiTeeka]

The Mandarrins and The Deep Power Stone. What are they? Who are they? And how do these power stones empower people?

 

Judging by the large stone faces carved into the rocks surrounding the Great Unknown, it's possible that the Mandaras might've been humans or Overlanders of some type. And since Naugus used an ancient Mandaran artifact to lure Sally and Bunnie into the Void, it's possible that the Mandaras might've been the original explorers of the Void. Or maybe (in the SatAM continuity), Naugus was originally planned to be a Mandaran.

 

But if that's the case, it still doesn't answer the question.

[Prince ByTor]

The Mandarrins and The Deep Power Stone. What are they? Who are they? And how do these power stones empower people?

 

Well, from what we know from what NICHOLE said in The Void they were supposedly an ancient race of giants; like Logiteeka said you see Moai like giant heads in the Great Unknown for instance in the Drood Henge episode overlooking Robotnik's dig. I don't know if it's Pareidolia, but I see faces and skulls a lot during the last half of season 2; it almost seems like parts of the doomsday machine are made out human skulls; especially at the top near the diamond glass dome; kind of creepy if you ask me.

Anyway, I doubt that these Mundaras were humans, or at least humans like Robotnik or they might have referred to him as one, but mayhap he was and they just didn't know it. I've wondered if they inspired The Ancient Walkers in the comic, but that really doesn't fit either. I think that they were, like Logiteeka said, a type of human or maybe something extraterrestrial that just never got explained.

As far as the Deep Power Stones, NICHOLE said that they worked similar to power rings, but only amplified 10,000 times if put together the one way. Since they worked on Sally and gave her super speed as well as what appears to be either the ability to jump great distances or even to fly to both of them as seen at the end of The Doomsday Project. Also, it seems almost as if each powerstone was absorbed by both Sonic and Sally as seen by the energy released by the high five and the kiss afterward. It would've been interesting to see where Ben Hurst would have gone with it in the third season.

Spoiler

In Sea3on comic when Snively and Naugus had Sally captive it was also said that the Deep Power Stones were absorbed.

[brmsort]

 

The Mandarrins and The Deep Power Stone. What are they? Who are they? And how do these power stones empower people?

 

Judging by the large stone faces carved into the rocks surrounding the Great Unknown, it's possible that the Mandaras might've been humans or Overlanders of some type. And since Naugus used an ancient Mandaran artifact to lure Sally and Bunnie into the Void, it's possible that the Mandaras might've been the original explorers of the Void. Or maybe (in the SatAM continuity), Naugus was originally planned to be a Mandaran.

 

But if that's the case, it still doesn't answer the question.

 

 

The artifact that Naugus used to capture Sally and Bunnie was most likely, according to NICOLE, a forgery. But assuming that in SatAM they are not a myth, the only info we are given is that they were giants. The only civilization of giants in SatAM are the dragons. By the time we see them in SatAM, the dragon civilization was broken by Robotnik. Perhaps the dragons were a tribe descended from the Mandarra.

 

As for the deep power stones, I would like to think that they are not gone. At some point, they must have been used in the past otherwise how would the King know how to configure the stones to provide energy or explosion? As for how they work, they are similar to power rings except they seem to provide greater energy and provide it regardless of the user. Like a power ring, I suppose they dissipate into energy into the user -- providing the pink aura we see surrounding Sally and Sonic at the end of Doomsday. However, I do not believe they are a one-time-use device. I would think they rematerialize after an indefinite period of time, ready to be used again.

[TheRedStranger]

The Time Stones. What happend to them? Why not use them again?

[Hammer]

However, I do not believe they are a one-time-use device. I would think they rematerialize after an indefinite period of time, ready to be used again.

After a year, they will be able to locate them and use them again.

 

The Time Stones. What happend to them? Why not use them again?

TIME STONES! GOTTA FIND THOSE TIME STONES!

 

My God. Well, the music could fit.

[RedAuthar]

The Time Stones. What happend to them? Why not use them again?

Space Time Continuum. 

They already changed history, to continually use the Time Stones would destroy Space and Time.  The Doctor said no.

 

 

Also they likely give off a huge amount of energy, too risky Robotnik might find their location.