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The Spambot Killer.
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:13 AM
Well its going to because he's the head writer.
But it shouldn't be, because the changes aren't his fault. SEGA mandates and the Ken Penders lawsuit are the reason for these changes.
On top of that anything the Editor tells him to do, he has to do as well.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:21 AM
Have i directly said "This is all his fault" No i did not. All i said was that he's the head writer hes gonna get backlash
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:25 AM
Have i directly said "This is all his fault" No i did not. All i said was that he's the head writer hes gonna get backlash
Backlash for what? He didn't do anything wrong. He's just doing his job.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:36 AM
I know he's doing his job, but the changes being made are causing backlash at him, the editors, Archie and SEGA. Flynn gets most of it though
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:39 AM
I know he's doing his job, but the changes being made are causing backlash at him, the editors, Archie and SEGA. Flynn gets most of it though
That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:43 AM
I know he's doing his job, but the changes being made are causing backlash at him, the editors, Archie and SEGA. Flynn gets most of it though
That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me.
Well the head writer (usually) comes up with most of the ideas in the comic
SatAM and Sally Acorn Fan
Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:22 PM
I really feel sorry for Flynn here; he happens to be the head writer at the time Sega F's up the last good part of current Sonic branded media: the comic. Ben's right, the fans can't really vent at the person(s) responsible, so he ends up being the "straw man" taking all the heat from the comic's fan base. If Sega keeps this up I can see Ian Flynn getting fed up as well with what they're doing to the comic and move on; maybe they'll just turn the writing over to the people who script those "great" Sonic games!
Whatever the case, if Sega doesn't back off I see this comic going down the toilet; so much for the longest running video game based comic.
The Spambot Killer.
Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:45 PM
He's coming up with the changes yes, but it's the editor wh is in charge and telling him to make changes.That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me.I know he's doing his job, but the changes being made are causing backlash at him, the editors, Archie and SEGA. Flynn gets most of it though
Well the head writer (usually) comes up with most of the ideas in the comic
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:58 PM
He's coming up with the changes yes, but it's the editor wh is in charge and telling him to make changes.
That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me.I know he's doing his job, but the changes being made are causing backlash at him, the editors, Archie and SEGA. Flynn gets most of it though
Well the head writer (usually) comes up with most of the ideas in the comic
Of course, but Flynn doesnt have to go in the direction hes going.
Look i know if i was in his position i'd be dealing with the same problems. I know this. I just dont like how he's trying stuff like Muttski being a Mobian to get fans like myself back on his side. He should directly ask us "What would we like to see? and be reasonable"
The Captain
Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:51 PM
ANYWAYS...
The comic cant use "Mobius" Anymore... and Flynn was an ass about it as well.
He wasn't being an ass about it. A troll by the name of "Naugus" on Bumbleking Forums was giving him a hard time. I blame SEGA for this!
He's still acting in a professional capacity when posting on the site and should conduct himself accordingly.
I don't visit BumbleKing anymore, chiefly because the site's userbase came across as being comprised largely of sycophants and yes men hanging off of Flynn's every syllable. Flynn could release a preview of an entire arc devoted to Sonic 06's plot, and at least half a dozen people would still post that "Shut up and take my money!" image without any intended irony. While outright trolling is not an appropriate means of generating intelligent discussion, the site could certainly benefit from more users willing to level actual criticism.
While SEGA is certainly to blame for the bulk of the changes, Flynn and the other Archie staff are not without fault. The Mecha Sally story arc had degenerated into a trainwreck of lost potential by the time the lawsuit impacted Endangered Species. In addition, the decision to give characters like Geoffrey and Elias increased importance even as the lawsuit was underway shows an alarming lack of foresight and caution.
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:39 PM
While SEGA is certainly to blame for the bulk of the changes, Flynn and the other Archie staff are not without fault. The Mecha Sally story arc had degenerated into a trainwreck of lost potential by the time the lawsuit impacted Endangered Species. In addition, the decision to give characters like Geoffrey and Elias increased importance even as the lawsuit was underway shows an alarming lack of foresight and caution.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:25 PM
While SEGA is certainly to blame for the bulk of the changes, Flynn and the other Archie staff are not without fault. The Mecha Sally story arc had degenerated into a trainwreck of lost potential by the time the lawsuit impacted Endangered Species. In addition, the decision to give characters like Geoffrey and Elias increased importance even as the lawsuit was underway shows an alarming lack of foresight and caution.
Try telling a continuity-heavy story when a majority of the comic's material was created by someone else. It's like making a big sandwich, only to find out that most of your ingredients are off-limits due to your strict diet, leaving you with only lettuce and two slices of bread. Do you give up? Or are you still peckish for something?
No you break the rules and eat anyways. As my Nutrition teacher once said: Screw diets, they all suck and dont work 9/10 times anyways
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:27 PM
Would you guys like it if Ian Flynn started producing stories about what happens before issue 252 in the new Sonic comic timeline? I personally would.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:56 PM
Would you guys like it if Ian Flynn started producing stories about what happens before issue 252 in the new Sonic comic timeline? I personally would.
Depends. What would be different
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:04 PM
Would you guys like it if Ian Flynn started producing stories about what happens before issue 252 in the new Sonic comic timeline? I personally would.
Depends. What would be different
The designs of the characters, having Classic Sonic game stories that are closer to the games, and stories that fit in the new timeline. Kinda like the Mega Man comics, short story adaptions of the games and having origin stories for certain characters.
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:05 PM
Would you guys like it if Ian Flynn started producing stories about what happens before issue 252 in the new Sonic comic timeline? I personally would.
Everybody's Favorite Uncle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:16 PM
Would you guys like it if Ian Flynn started producing stories about what happens before issue 252 in the new Sonic comic timeline? I personally would.
Depends. What would be different
The designs of the characters, having Classic Sonic game stories that are closer to the games, and stories that fit in the new timeline. Kinda like the Mega Man comics, short story adaptions of the games and having origin stories for certain characters.
Negative. The Comic was different cause it was a different continuity and had little to relate to the games, save for the characters. Stories about how this "new timeline" and all that can suffer the same thing the "old timeline" had. Erased later on for a new timeline
The Captain
Posted 20 October 2013 - 07:56 PM
Try telling a continuity-heavy story when a majority of the comic's material was created by someone else. It's like making a big sandwich, only to find out that most of your ingredients are off-limits due to your strict diet, leaving you with only lettuce and two slices of bread. Do you give up? Or are you still peckish for something?
I'm not going to bother trying to phrase my response using the food analogy.
Flynn was well aware last year that the Penders characters were being contested. Rather than quietly phasing them out of the story so that their loss would have minimal impact should the worst happen, he opted to make them more important, putting Elias in charge of a team featuring at least one other Penders character, having Naugus possess Geoffrey, and creating an arc focused on the echidnas. He gambled heavily on Penders losing the case, only to have things backfire at a very inopportune time.
If sufficient precautionary measures had been taken, the court case would not have completely disrupted the storyline. Controversy would have been lessened, and it's possible that Sega's scrutiny would not have been drawn, in turn preventing the reboot and new set of mandates (Freedom Fighter redesigns, lack of Mobius, etc.).
Fellow FUSer
Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:13 PM
The Spambot Killer.
Posted 20 October 2013 - 10:58 PM
Try telling a continuity-heavy story when a majority of the comic's material was created by someone else. It's like making a big sandwich, only to find out that most of your ingredients are off-limits due to your strict diet, leaving you with only lettuce and two slices of bread. Do you give up? Or are you still peckish for something?
I'm not going to bother trying to phrase my response using the food analogy.
Flynn was well aware last year that the Penders characters were being contested. Rather than quietly phasing them out of the story so that their loss would have minimal impact should the worst happen, he opted to make them more important, putting Elias in charge of a team featuring at least one other Penders character, having Naugus possess Geoffrey, and creating an arc focused on the echidnas. He gambled heavily on Penders losing the case, only to have things backfire at a very inopportune time.
If sufficient precautionary measures had been taken, the court case would not have completely disrupted the storyline. Controversy would have been lessened, and it's possible that Sega's scrutiny would not have been drawn, in turn preventing the reboot and new set of mandates (Freedom Fighter redesigns, lack of Mobius, etc.).
Not like anyone was really taking Pender's case seriously, why should Ian?
Honestly I think Ian had the right idea by using those characters to show fans still cared about them, that they were something worth fighting for. To have just let them fade into obscurity would have been just as bad because we would never know what they were doing and complain that the retcon just removed them for no apparent reason.
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