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[Prince ByTor]

I just thought of something:

Where the *Butterscotch* is Snively?

 

I second that!

[RedAuthar]

I just thought of something:
Where the *Butterscotch* is Snively?

He is in the space between spaces.

Don't even go there

[jtreese]

Spoilers from Issue 254:

• GUN Jets attack Eggman's ship causing it to crash in Avalon's Egg Army Base (Mobius' New Mercia)
• Sonic and tails stroll just outside of Knothole (Which is the Wood Zone at Westside Island)
• Sonic and Tails find Uncle Chuck
• Sonic and Tails Find Antoine
• Sonic and Tails meet the New Muttski who Chuck calls, "Mutt." (Chuck's Assistant)
• Sonic whispers to Tails that they should give Chuck back his memories. Tails replies that they should focus on the freedom fighters only, at least for now.
• Tails gives Antoine NICOLE and starts freaking out as well. Sonic explains how Ant got into a coma. Antoine interrupts and demands to see his wife, Bunnie.
• Back in Avalon, Eggman has turned his damaged EggMobile into the Walker from SA2
• He destroys a few of GUN's Vehicles before stealing one of their Jets to get to the Death Egg.
• Back at Outside Knothole, Sonic explains what's happened when trying to restore Mobius.
• Sonic says they're going to find Bunnie first, with Ant willing to come
• Suddenly, a big earthquake causes a hole in the ground
• Sonic, Tails, & Antoine save Mutt and Chuck with Sonic going after Chuck's machine.
• Sonic gets the machine, but on the way up, it hits a rock, with Sonic breathing in the gas it spews
• sonic goes Feral for a bit but then says he's fine.
• Uncle Chuck gets Muttski so they can check to see if the villagers are safe and to go to Spagonia to study the remaining samples.
• Antoine changes his mind and goes with Uncle Chuck. Sonic asks if there was anything he wanted to say to Bunnie. He says, "Tell her... I am well, but will not be until I am with her again." (Awwwww)
• We cut to Metropolis zone, where we see Bunnie in an Egg Army Suit.

[jtreese]

I just thought of something:

Where the *Butterscotch* is Snively?

Probably in the Wily Egg still. Oh, i'm sorry, I mean the "Egg O War!"

[Uncle Ben]

 

Spoilers from Issue 254:

• GUN Jets attack Eggman's ship causing it to crash in Avalon's Egg Army Base (Mobius' New Mercia)
• Sonic and tails stroll just outside of Knothole (Which is the Wood Zone at Westside Island)
• Sonic and Tails find Uncle Chuck
• Sonic and Tails Find Antoine
• Sonic and Tails meet the New Muttski who Chuck calls, "Mutt." (Chuck's Assistant)
• Sonic whispers to Tails that they should give Chuck back his memories. Tails replies that they should focus on the freedom fighters only, at least for now.
• Tails gives Antoine NICOLE and starts freaking out as well. Sonic explains how Ant got into a coma. Antoine interrupts and demands to see his wife, Bunnie.
• Back in Avalon, Eggman has turned his damaged EggMobile into the Walker from SA2
• He destroys a few of GUN's Vehicles before stealing one of their Jets to get to the Death Egg.
• Back at Outside Knothole, Sonic explains what's happened when trying to restore Mobius.
• Sonic says they're going to find Bunnie first, with Ant willing to come
• Suddenly, a big earthquake causes a hole in the ground
• Sonic, Tails, & Antoine save Mutt and Chuck with Sonic going after Chuck's machine.
• Sonic gets the machine, but on the way up, it hits a rock, with Sonic breathing in the gas it spews
• sonic goes Feral for a bit but then says he's fine.
• Uncle Chuck gets Muttski so they can check to see if the villagers are safe and to go to Spagonia to study the remaining samples.
• Antoine changes his mind and goes with Uncle Chuck. Sonic asks if there was anything he wanted to say to Bunnie. He says, "Tell her... I am well, but will not be until I am with her again." (Awwwww)
• We cut to Metropolis zone, where we see Bunnie in an Egg Army Suit.

 

 

Ant' and Bunnie will stay together. Flynn you just earned 1 point with me.

I just thought of something:

Where the *Butterscotch* is Snively?

 

Manning the fort or gone i think

[ILOVEVHS]

Spoilers from Issue 254:

• GUN Jets attack Eggman's ship causing it to crash in Avalon's Egg Army Base (Mobius' New Mercia)
• Sonic and tails stroll just outside of Knothole (Which is the Wood Zone at Westside Island)
• Sonic and Tails find Uncle Chuck
• Sonic and Tails Find Antoine
• Sonic and Tails meet the New Muttski who Chuck calls, "Mutt." (Chuck's Assistant)
• Sonic whispers to Tails that they should give Chuck back his memories. Tails replies that they should focus on the freedom fighters only, at least for now.
• Tails gives Antoine NICOLE and starts freaking out as well. Sonic explains how Ant got into a coma. Antoine interrupts and demands to see his wife, Bunnie.
• Back in Avalon, Eggman has turned his damaged EggMobile into the Walker from SA2
• He destroys a few of GUN's Vehicles before stealing one of their Jets to get to the Death Egg.
• Back at Outside Knothole, Sonic explains what's happened when trying to restore Mobius.
• Sonic says they're going to find Bunnie first, with Ant willing to come
• Suddenly, a big earthquake causes a hole in the ground
• Sonic, Tails, & Antoine save Mutt and Chuck with Sonic going after Chuck's machine.
• Sonic gets the machine, but on the way up, it hits a rock, with Sonic breathing in the gas it spews
• sonic goes Feral for a bit but then says he's fine.
• Uncle Chuck gets Muttski so they can check to see if the villagers are safe and to go to Spagonia to study the remaining samples.
• Antoine changes his mind and goes with Uncle Chuck. Sonic asks if there was anything he wanted to say to Bunnie. He says, "Tell her... I am well, but will not be until I am with her again." (Awwwww)
• We cut to Metropolis zone, where we see Bunnie in an Egg Army Suit.

 
Ant' and Bunnie will stay together. Flynn you just earned 1 point with me.

Damn straight.

[Prince ByTor]

I'm glad Ian Flynn kept Bunny and Antoine together; he's doing the best he can under the circumstances. In my book I only wished he had shortened the Mecha Sally arc; 2 1/2 years was just too long. Other than that if you look at it objectively he has done a lot to repair the damage Bollers and Penders did. I'm really hoping that he is using this reset to kind of clean away many of the scars left from their tenure.

[jtreese]

I'm glad Ian Flynn kept Bunny and Antoine together; he's doing the best he can under the circumstances. In my book I only wished he had shortened the Mecha Sally arc; 2 1/2 years was just too long. Other than that if you look at it objectively he has done a lot to repair the damage Bollers and Penders did. I'm really hoping that he is using this reset to kind of clean away many of the scars left from their tenure.

Agreed

[RedAuthar]

I'm glad Ian Flynn kept Bunny and Antoine together; he's doing the best he can under the circumstances. In my book I only wished he had shortened the Mecha Sally arc; 2 1/2 years was just too long. Other than that if you look at it objectively he has done a lot to repair the damage Bollers and Penders did. I'm really hoping that he is using this reset to kind of clean away many of the scars left from their tenure.

Scars run deep, considering how well he's done thus far, he's doing really good

[Ogilvie]

I believe this is the general Archie discussion thread based on the title...? I'll just have to run with it for now.

 

First: wow. This world is radically shaping up to be, well, interesting. We basically have Bioshock Infinite levels of craziness with dimension hopping going on, as everyone tries to reconcile old memories and new. The best part is that we now know that what was true in the old world might not be anymore; I wouldn't be surprised if we see some villains be good now or vice versa.

 

Spoiler

I mean, just look at King Acorn (looks like he did the fusion dance with Elias, I swear). He went from this bitter old jerk to a fuzzy Theodore Roosevelt. We also see that Robotnik looked like the classic Robotnik of the game titles back when he first became Warlord...

 

It looks like this time around they brought back roboticization, so I guess if you kick the timeline enough times it finally works.

 

Though the previews make me ponder. We have the Black Arms coming and what looks like Dark Gaia... possibly at the same time?! And for all we know, the ban on Nega may also have been lifted... so we could see three villains showing up in quick succession (and let's not count the Deadly Six out either).

[Speedy_25]

You know Ant and Bunnie are staying together, look at Bunnie's robotic hand , and you'll see her wedding ring

[Captain Sorzo]

 We basically have Bioshock Infinite levels of craziness with dimension hopping going on, as everyone tries to reconcile old memories and new.

 

BioShock Infinite

Spoiler

Now I have the mental image of all the different versions of Sally gathering together and having to drown Penders before the lawsuit. Not sure if I should be amused or disturbed.

[Ogilvie]

You know Ant and Bunnie are staying together, look at Bunnie's robotic hand , and you'll see her wedding ring

 

Well I'm glad Ant's keeping the courage he developed over the comics' history at least. I think he's a much better character that way, myself. I like how he matured from this cowardly, snobby (and stereotypical) guy to a brave, respectful person fitting of someone from a military background.

 

BioShock Infinite

Spoiler

Now I have the mental image of all the different versions of Sally gathering together and having to drown Penders before the lawsuit. Not sure if I should be amused or disturbed.

 

 

That's some interesting imagery, to say the least.

[jtreese]

So, it turns out that the Archie comics can't establish family members for the SEGA characters anymore. However, there may be some exceptions:

 

1.Vanilla Rabbit: SEGA character

 

2. Uncle Chuck: in his description in the yellow box in Issue 254, it says "Uncle to many." This could mean that Uncle Chuck is not Sonic's Uncle anymore, or Ian is just covering it up and Chuck is still Sonic's Uncle.

 

3. Mighty and his sister: Mighty is no longer relevant to the SEGA franchise, therefore, there might still be a chance of keeping Matilda in the comic as Mighty's sis.

[Prince ByTor]

So, it turns out that the Archie comics can't establish family members for the SEGA characters anymore. However, there may be some exceptions:

 

1.Vanilla Rabbit: SEGA character

 

2. Uncle Chuck: in his description in the yellow box in Issue 254, it says "Uncle to many." This could mean that Uncle Chuck is not Sonic's Uncle anymore, or Ian is just covering it up and Chuck is still Sonic's Uncle.

 

3. Mighty and his sister: Mighty is no longer relevant to the SEGA franchise, therefore, there might still be a chance of keeping Matilda in the comic as Mighty's sis.

 

It makes sense seeing how many character were created by Penders that had family ties to established Sega characters.

This will create a lot of questions in and of itself: what about Manic and Sonia (from Underground), I've been interested in seeing the rumoured ending to the series. Also, what about other family characters that have been already created that weren't created by Penders? I really hope this doesn't take away characters that weren't in question that are family members; Amadeus and Rosemary I don't think were Penders characters, do they now not exist? So now did Tails just pop out of the ground? Or just is he an orphan again?

 

In my book this is a BIG minus for the comic.

[jtreese]

 

So, it turns out that the Archie comics can't establish family members for the SEGA characters anymore. However, there may be some exceptions:

 

1.Vanilla Rabbit: SEGA character

 

2. Uncle Chuck: in his description in the yellow box in Issue 254, it says "Uncle to many." This could mean that Uncle Chuck is not Sonic's Uncle anymore, or Ian is just covering it up and Chuck is still Sonic's Uncle.

 

3. Mighty and his sister: Mighty is no longer relevant to the SEGA franchise, therefore, there might still be a chance of keeping Matilda in the comic as Mighty's sis.

 

It makes sense seeing how many character were created by Penders that had family ties to established Sega characters.

This will create a lot of questions in and of itself: what about Manic and Sonia (from Underground), I've been interested in seeing the rumoured ending to the series. Also, what about other family characters that have been already created that weren't created by Penders? I really hope this doesn't take away characters that weren't in question that are family members; Amadeus and Rosemary I don't think were Penders characters, do they now not exist? So now did Tails just pop out of the ground? Or just is he an orphan again?

 

In my book this is a BIG minus for the comic.

 

It's not like there are many family figures for the SEGA cast that they can use anyway.

[Ogilvie]

While Penders is given the blame on a lot of this, I think SEGA also did some sort of forced trade with Archie; Archie would get more liberties with characters like the Black Arms but would have to also give up a lot of comic-exclusive characters to do so, whether they are Penders' in origin or not.

 

Uncle Chuck is nowhere close to being an invention of Penders (as I'm pretty positive everyone here knows), but it looks like he's been removed from an exclusive uncle status in favor of being nicknamed "uncle" rather than being a biological uncle.

 

Really it's stuff like this that makes me appreciate Sea3on and Sonic the Comic Online more by the day. Neither of them has to deal with this legal nonsense, or SEGA watching over its stories like some predatory hawk. It shows, too; STCO has its fair share of stories I'm pretty positive SEGA wouldn't have allowed, and while I've only just finished Chapter 1 of Sea3on, I'm certain as I read more there will be some element here or there that SEGA would be a control freak over.

[Prince ByTor]

While Penders is given the blame on a lot of this, I think SEGA also did some sort of forced trade with Archie; Archie would get more liberties with characters like the Black Arms but would have to also give up a lot of comic-exclusive characters to do so, whether they are Penders' in origin or not.

 

Uncle Chuck is nowhere close to being an invention of Penders (as I'm pretty positive everyone here knows), but it looks like he's been removed from an exclusive uncle status in favor of being nicknamed "uncle" rather than being a biological uncle.

 

Really it's stuff like this that makes me appreciate Sea3on and Sonic the Comic Online more by the day. Neither of them has to deal with this legal nonsense, or SEGA watching over its stories like some predatory hawk. It shows, too; STCO has its fair share of stories I'm pretty positive SEGA wouldn't have allowed, and while I've only just finished Chapter 1 of Sea3on, I'm certain as I read more there will be some element here or there that SEGA would be a control freak over.

 

I'm with you, Sea3on seems to be where us SatAM fans will have to go for our fix.

I really don't know if they're doing away with Chuck's biological Uncle status with Sonic. Even in SatAM every character referred to him as "Uncle" from Sally to Antoine, Rotor, Bunny, and Tails; like I said, I think his status hasn't changed.

I only worry that this will create a divide between Sonic Game characters and SatAM/Archie characters. The comic characters can still marry, have children, and suffer the loss of family members unlike apparently the Sega game cast. In my opinion it's going to cause a rift between the two, so Ian Flynn will have a lot of balancing to do. I foresee Ian focusing more on the comic cast and having the Sega characters assist/save the day.

[Captain Sorzo]

While I've only just finished Chapter 1 of Sea3on, I'm certain as I read more there will be some element here or there that SEGA would be a control freak over.

 

They'd go ballistic over the first interlude story.

[Prince ByTor]

 

While I've only just finished Chapter 1 of Sea3on, I'm certain as I read more there will be some element here or there that SEGA would be a control freak over.

 

They'd go ballistic over the first interlude story.

 

 

That's for sure! I wonder if Sega is aware of Sea3on? And if they are what do they think of it? Personally I like the artistic direction over almost all of the Archie ones; FUS has some damn good artists aboard!