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[Alextendo]

True.  But Takeshi Iizuka, designer on Nights Into Dreams and the first Sonic Adventure, said in an interview he didn't want to make "Adventure 3" because he was afraid only hard-core fans of the series would play it.  That's one of the reasons why most Sonic games now have a stand alone name.

It's sad to him that Yuji Naka was in charge in the serie instead of him. :/

 

Since Sonic Heroes follows the Storyline of Sonic Adventure 2 has similar gameplay mechanics (different but still similar) it's safe to say that Heroes is the True Spiritual Successor or the True "Sonic Adventure 3".  

I see Sonic Heroes more like a spin-off to the Adventure serie, since it try to connect itself from Adventure 2 (storywise), without really doing it. Shadow the Hedgehog was market as ''THE'' sequel of Adventure 2.....What a mess...

[RedAuthar]

 

Since Sonic Heroes follows the Storyline of Sonic Adventure 2 has similar gameplay mechanics (different but still similar) it's safe to say that Heroes is the True Spiritual Successor or the True "Sonic Adventure 3".  

I see Sonic Heroes more like a spin-off to the Adventure serie, since it try to connect itself from Adventure 2 (storywise), without really doing it. Shadow the Hedgehog was market as ''THE'' sequel of Adventure 2.....What a mess...

 

Shadow Also takes some ideas from Heroes such as the Shadow Android Army.  While not really fought in Heroes they do appear in the Team Dark Storyline.  

[Alextendo]

Yeah, but as far as i remember, it was shown only in the end of the ''standard'' mission (if you just reach the goal ring). To me it look like a terrible attemp to tie the story of Heroes in. Since the ''final story'' is presented as the ''canon'' ending, everything relate to Heroes in this game fall in the shitter. Just like if it was two different timeline or something...

[RedAuthar]

Technically Everything that happened in Shadow Makes past storylines go ape.  The game was a sign of the the things to come...aka '06. 

[Alextendo]

For the story perspective, like the Nostalgia Critic will say: Welcome to mindfuck!

[RedAuthar]

But honestly almost all Sonic games do that now. 

[Alextendo]

Sega seem to treat every Sonic game like their own reboot or something. They have no standard at all. The rule change all the time, just like many of the character. The setting constanly morphing into something different. I think the Sonic univers is unstable

[RedAuthar]

And Reboots bring New Characters.  Unfortunately the current standard for Sonic is that a New Character is either an enemy or Navi.  I mean I understand that people didn't like Knuckles's stages in the Adventure Series (totally tied this post into the topic right there), but reducing 90% of the Sonic Cast to being either one time characters or part of the Sonic Cheering Squad (glares at Sonic Generations) is even worse.  

[Uncle Ben]

See i WANT something like Adventure 1 again where everyone has a different story that all ties in together

[Alextendo]

I like that you bring Knuckles as for exemple. Because when i think about Knuckles, i should think about ''guardian of the Master Emerald''. But these days, when i think about Knuckles, i think about the random red guy that stand's there....and....Yeah, stand's there. Knuckles, what Sega has done to you? Not only they changed his goal, they change his personality, his style and everything. He has no purpose anymore, since Sega forget to give him any reason to be here (beside cheering Sonic when needed). So many character now suffer from the same treatment.

 

Amy was a fan of Sonic, now she's a psycopath. Tails was the main sidekick, now he's the boring exposition guy. Knuckles was the guardian of the Master Emerald, now he's the guy standing there. Eggman was the main vilain, now he's a total goofball. Blaze was the guardian of the Sol Emerald, now she's just stand there. Rouge was a spy, now she's just there for eye candy. The list go on and on....

[Uncle Ben]

Supposively Tails has a more prominent role in Lost World. Maybe they are becoming more prominent in each game

[RedAuthar]

See i WANT something like Adventure 1 again where everyone has a different story that all ties in together

Which a lot of Sonic Games actually do...just less so with the main titles.  

Example:  Sonic Rush was a DS spin-off but it did the two Storyline things that tie in together in the end for a final story.

 

My thing is while characters should play different, I don't think they should be hugely different.  For Example Tails can fly, but other then that he plays similarly to Sonic.  Like Sonic the Hedgehog 3, they all play the same but Sonic had special abilities via the power ups, Knuckles could Glide and break through certain walls, and Tails could fly and swim.  

 

I like that you bring Knuckles as for exemple. Because when i think about Knuckles, i should think about ''guardian of the Master Emerald''. But these days, when i think about Knuckles, i think about the random red guy that stand's there....and....Yeah, stand's there. Knuckles, what Sega has done to you? Not only they changed his goal, they change his personality, his style and everything. He has no purpose anymore, since Sega forget to give him any reason to be here (beside cheering Sonic when needed). So many character now suffer from the same treatment.

 

Amy was a fan of Sonic, now she's a psycopath. Tails was the main sidekick, now he's the boring exposition guy. Knuckles was the guardian of the Master Emerald, now he's the guy standing there. Eggman was the main vilain, now he's a total goofball. Blaze was the guardian of the Sol Emerald, now she's just stand there. Rouge was a spy, now she's just there for eye candy. The list go on and on....

SEGA is being lazy and making new characters every game but then never using them again.  While new characters are creative, since many of the Past Characters ALREADY DO THE SAME THING it's just laziness.  

[Alextendo]

The thing is, when you create new character and used them smartly, there's no need for new character. But Sega love to created uninteresting and uninspired character they will drop after their first apparition.