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[Alextendo]

The only one who slightly deserved it was Jules, i mean it DID save his life and he has accepted life as a robot

At this point it no longer mean anything. Since he was a Penders character, we aren't going to see him anytime soon (unless some changes, which i really doubt).

[Uncle Ben]

 

The only one who slightly deserved it was Jules, i mean it DID save his life and he has accepted life as a robot

At this point it no longer mean anything. Since he was a Penders character, we aren't going to see him anytime soon (unless some changes, which i really doubt).

 

 

I heard he was safe

[LogiTeeka]

Well, you can blame Ian for the haters thinking that. He did make her too perfect, even too Mary-Sueish too.

 

Still, how is showing her get cut up with a blowtorch the way to show she's not invincible? Not to mention when has Sally ever been that way? She's been subjected to alot of crap the whole series, from constant breakups with Sonic, becoming an emotional trainwreck for awhile, even 3 times almost killed off.

 

Anyhow, you do make a good point no Mobian deserves to be roboticized. None do. It's a horrible, awful fate. Although, when we say Sally doesn't deserve this, we're implying she's already been through the whole roboticized thing and we want to see another get a turn at it.

 

There are plenty of Freedom Fighters who can fill this role and have us reader emotionally attached in the process. The problem is, Archie has got this crazy idea a story isn't a big enough bombshell if it doesn't involve something bad happen to Princess Sally. Think about it: Nearly every single big story this comic has done, she's at the center of the turmoil, and I seriously am sick of it.

 

I'm not trying to say Sally should never be touched and go through hardship, but isn't it time another Freedom Fighter had to deal with this and we see them going through a really rough patch that affects our main heroes?

 

I still think Sally was the right pick for the role. I mean, she was the one Freedom Fighter that everyone looked up to and admired greatly. Having her roboticized worked because she was the glue that held them together. With her gone, everyone started to fall apart and their fighting spirits ran low.

 

Had it been someone else, it wouldn't have been as powerful. Antoine wasn't much of a role model, Bunnie was already roboticized (making it kinda redundant), and Rotor hardly contributed anything to the overall movement. Their loss would've been sad, but not nearly as devastating as Sally's.

[Mike Arcade]

I probably should have been here DAYS ago.
 

I never had a problem with the Mecha Sally Arc, it was a little too long BUT it changed the status quo and really put Sonic and the gang in the corner, even Ian admitted that it was too long. Silver's Story was really interesting, but the guy REALLY doesn't think things through (even more so then Sonic, or just about) and I hope it continues with the soft reset in some way.

 

But I will admit with his conclusion that Sally is the "Traitor" was just anti climatic to me, and I REALLY hoped Silver wasn't right about that. Honestly that's my only complaint about Silver really, he just can't catch a break and tries but is always jumping in too fast.

 

As for Sonic's Character throughout the story I pretty much agree with Logi here, as the guy has gone through A LOT in less then the span of two days up until he formed Team Fighters. My only gripe was when he didn't even show some sadness when Geoffrey told about how he lost Hershey, and was cheering when St. John was found guilty. Now I would expect that earlier into the comic or if Sally was still around but that was a really dickish thing. The guy lost his wife and has VERY OBVIOUSLY BEEN USED BY NAUGUS FOR YEARS and all he can do is cheer when he's found guilty? Oh granted they had a big rivalry in the past but damn Sonic that's cold, Sonic you JUST lost Sally, don't you think that you and St. John MIGHT have a few things in common here!?! BUT as much as I didn't like that part, you can justify it by saying how messed up Sonic was coming out of all that. I would have had Sonic show a sad look when he mentioned Hershey and then think "Sal...", I think that would have been much better but that's just me.

As for the reboot, I wouldn't really call it a reboot more so then a soft reset of the comic, I have yet to see #252 right now but if you're favorite characters aren't seen right now don't freak out, I mean the lawsuit stuff has just been settled or is being settled as we speak (I'm not sure about the exact details) so it could be a little bit more before we see those old favorite characters OR if that's not the case and Archie doesn't want them to use the characters Ian and Co. can always make Proxy Characters that pretty much ARE those characters but not really, which I wouldn't really mind. Now as for the plot (well, minus Mecha Sally now) from before the 2nd Wave, either it will be retold in the comic, altered but basically the same, and Sonic with all his memories intact will try to stop some events like Thrash's Echidna Warp, OR we can get the Mecha Sally Arc Conclusion in a future Sonic Universe Arc that would tell what would have happened. 

I blame both Ken and Archie for all of this mess, Ken for obvious (and at the same time somewhat understandable) reasons and Archie for always having this shifty sort of relationship with it's writers (look up the creator of the Archie Character to understand what I mean). I am excited to see what will happen and follow, and I am just as curious as anyone to see what will happen next.


 

[blue]

 

 

I know they altered some things, but they didn't retcon the whole series. There are still issues of the book that you have to read to get a full sense of the story.

 

 

But the retconned nearly a lot of the back story..... Penders did add a rather good job at making a background of the comics and its a lot of stuff they might be changing

 

Wow, I really ticked you off. Sorry. And I never said that all of the critics of the comic are all at fault.

What I meant was that you and your faction of the Sonic Fan base never let the Mecha Sally arc to breathe for its full potential. We there problem with this arc. Yes, but I still enjoyed it regardless. I do agree that Ian bear some blame from the behind the scenes debacle. If you don't like it. That's fine, but at least give the comic a chance and people judge it for themselves rather than telling them to stay away from it.

I apologize if this post is preachy to you.

 

 

You are so lucky i didnt use much more colorful language. We tried letting it breathe but when Eggman took the blowtorch to Sally to "weaponize" her was the final straw for a lot of us. Its was drastically unneccisary. I'll admit it started okay but then it was lackluster. Plus as i said before it was something we didnt want. I do as i always do with every issue i get: I give the comic's issue a chance, but i will admit i jumped the gun a bit and as i told Red, if i'm wrong i'll admit that i was.

 

And yes it was preachy

 

That's good to hear that you're in good terms with me.

By the way, I never said that you and the other fans wanted the Mecha Sally arc. What I meant was that the creators presented the Mecha Sally arc, then a lot of the fans responded in aggressive criticism and never let it breathe. Which, to me, was the reason why the series was majorly retconned in order to simmer down the hate and rage conjured by the arc. Although, it could be the creators' intent, but I'm not sure. Also, the lawsuit may had played a major role for the whole retcon, and I believed that negative fan reaction and and lawsuit were the reasons why the retcon exists.

[LaserX5]

 

I still think Sally was the right pick for the role. I mean, she was the one Freedom Fighter that everyone looked up to and admired greatly. Having her roboticized worked because she was the glue that held them together. With her gone, everyone started to fall apart and their fighting spirits ran low.

 

Had it been someone else, it wouldn't have been as powerful. Antoine wasn't much of a role model, Bunnie was already roboticized (making it kinda redundant), and Rotor hardly contributed anything to the overall movement. Their loss would've been sad, but not nearly as devastating as Sally's.

 

 

Ok, I can understand the emotional pain of Sally being gone from the team, but like I said, it's an overused plot device. Plus, hpow are the readers supposed to connect with the other main cast if they're never put in a bad situation like this.

 

Just because it wouldn't be quite as powerful emotionally doesn't mean it couldn't make for a very good plot. Characters like Bunnie and Nicole for example would fit very well in the role Ian tried to force Mecha Sally into. Even Dulcy and Shadow would have done well if they were in Sally's shoes. Yea, I know SEGA wouldn't let Shadow ever end up like that, but it still is true he would have been a badass roboticized slave of Eggman's,

 

Honestly, while I do understand you want the readers to feel the cast's pain and relate with their hardships, I personally prefer that being by the challenges they have to overcome by the conflicts thrown at them.

 

Say for example they were terrorizing New Mobotropolis and causing massive damage to the city, even threatening the lives of the civilians there, I would have loved to have seen Sonic and his friends torn between trying to not kill their roboticized friend and protecting civilians who are demanding they be stopped at all costs. It could have been a very powerful emotional moment, watching their pained expressions while dealing with this.

 

236 for example should've had something like that, especially since 234 was such an emotional tear jerker for the main cast, though Antoine getting blown up was bit forced when i really analyze the issue. It would have been a lot better than that "Oh, by the way, I was the better the looking robot than you, Sal." playful banter crap..

 

That and, "I know you're still in there. Fight it."

 

To this day, I could swear Ian was mocking that plot device of Satam's. Granted it was pretty bad looking back on it, but that time should have been spent more wisely, like Sonic and his friends trying to get some specially devised traps built by Rotor or Tails and try to capture Mecha Sally that way.

[jtreese]

 

 

I know they altered some things, but they didn't retcon the whole series. There are still issues of the book that you have to read to get a full sense of the story.

 

 

But the retconned nearly a lot of the back story..... Penders did add a rather good job at making a background of the comics and its a lot of stuff they might be changing

We don't know that. What are some examples of the character's backstories that you think will be changed?

[LaserX5]

We don't know that. What are some examples of the character's backstories that you think will be changed?

 

 

Honestly, I bet at least half or more from the past is going to be changed from all the pointless changes that were made to the Satam cast.

 

Even Flynn said this Genesis Wave is going to bring changes to the series.

[jtreese]

 

We don't know that. What are some examples of the character's backstories that you think will be changed?

 

 

Honestly, I bet at least half or more from the past is going to be changed from all the pointless changes that were made to the Satam cast.

 

Even Flynn said this Genesis Wave is going to bring changes to the series.

 

Look guys, I am really biased with the Sonic comics. I Don't know why. I've supported the comics through thick and thin. I was with them when Sally got Roboticized, I was with them when Antoine was in a coma and Bunnie left. I guess it's because I read these comics so I can see what will happen with the Satam characters I know and love and that I loved the games and cartoons. With the comics being like if Satam mixed in with the games, that's all i've always wanted. And now that they're being reintroduced in the comics, I couldn't be more excited. Ian said there were going to be changes with the book, and that's beyond his control. What these changes are, are only speculation at this point. If it seems that these changes are true, get over it. It's not like your opinions will change what happens to the book. Ian has been given a lot of crap over the years with his writing. I love his writing on the Sonic comics. Not only does he introduces game elements to the comic, he cleans up messes left by crappy writers like Ken Penders. If you don't like the changes, than stop reading the book. No one is forcing you to read it. But, if you're curious or biased like I am, I suggest you read future issues before making assumptions.

[LaserX5]

Look guys, I am really biased with the Sonic comics. I Don't know why. I've supported the comics through thick and thin. I was with them when Sally got Roboticized, I was with them when Antoine was in a coma and Bunnie left. I guess it's because I read these comics so I can see what will happen with the Satam characters I know and love and that I loved the games and cartoons. With the comics being like if Satam mixed in with the games, that's all i've always wanted. And now that they're being reintroduced in the comics, I couldn't be more excited. Ian said there were going to be changes with the book, and that's beyond his control. What these changes are, are only speculation at this point. If it seems that these changes are true, get over it. It's not like your opinions will change what happens to the book. Ian has been given a lot of crap over the years with his writing. I love his writing on the Sonic comics. Not only does he introduces game elements to the comic, he cleans up messes left by crappy writers like Ken Penders. If you don't like the changes, than stop reading the book. No one is forcing you to read it. But, if you're curious or biased like I am, I suggest you read future issues before making assumptions.

 

 

I don't read the comics anymore because I had my fill of them after having to endure 2 dreadful years of Other-M V2.0(AKA the Mecha Sally Arc). The only reason I even pay the least slight bit attention to it now is because I'm a big fan of Sally and Bunnie. They deserve better than the crap they've endured from Archie Sonic, but I know deep down they'll never get it.

 

This comic is about SEGA's wants and THEIR cast. The comic ones are just their stepping stools for them to be trampled upon when demanded. Pure and simple.

 

So yes, I have moved on because it's just beating a dead horse now. The characters I know and loved from the earlier days are dead and have been replaced by generic SEGASONIC clones. It sucks, but I suppose that's life. The greedy CEO's of a company always get the last word how a product is made, whether the fans want it or not.

 

Anyhow, you be positively biased towards the comic all you want. That's your right. Just please don't criticize me because I have chosen to take the opposite mindset of this whole manner.

[jtreese]

 

Look guys, I am really biased with the Sonic comics. I Don't know why. I've supported the comics through thick and thin. I was with them when Sally got Roboticized, I was with them when Antoine was in a coma and Bunnie left. I guess it's because I read these comics so I can see what will happen with the Satam characters I know and love and that I loved the games and cartoons. With the comics being like if Satam mixed in with the games, that's all i've always wanted. And now that they're being reintroduced in the comics, I couldn't be more excited. Ian said there were going to be changes with the book, and that's beyond his control. What these changes are, are only speculation at this point. If it seems that these changes are true, get over it. It's not like your opinions will change what happens to the book. Ian has been given a lot of crap over the years with his writing. I love his writing on the Sonic comics. Not only does he introduces game elements to the comic, he cleans up messes left by crappy writers like Ken Penders. If you don't like the changes, than stop reading the book. No one is forcing you to read it. But, if you're curious or biased like I am, I suggest you read future issues before making assumptions.

 

 

I don't read the comics anymore because I had my fill of them after having to endure 2 dreadful years of Other-M V2.0(AKA the Mecha Sally Arc). The only reason I even pay the least slight bit attention to it now is because I'm a big fan of Sally and Bunnie. They deserve better than the crap they've endured from Archie Sonic, but I know deep down they'll never get it.

 

This comic is about SEGA's wants and THEIR cast. The comic ones are just their stepping stools for them to be trampled upon when demanded. Pure and simple.

 

So yes, I have moved on because it's just beating a dead horse now. The characters I know and loved from the earlier days are dead and have been replaced by generic SEGASONIC clones. It sucks, but I suppose that's life. The greedy CEO's of a company always get the last word how a product is made, whether the fans want it or not.

 

Anyhow, you be positively biased towards the comic all you want. That's your right. Just please don't criticize me because I have chosen to take the opposite mindset of this whole manner.

 

I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm just saying all of these complaints are going nowhere and that this is how it's gonna be.

[Mike Arcade]

Jeez, that's a little harsh don't you think? Well for me I've always been about Sonic and Everyone in the comics as a whole, I mean I like the SatAM cast as much as the next guy but this comic IS about Sonic. Natually Sonic should get the most screen time but for everyone else they should have equal screen time, nowadays 1 to 2 stories are in the comic per issue. With Sonic Universe however that allows other characters and factions to have screen time under a 4 issue story arc with no side stories. I think once the Archie Comic gets going again we'll see a Freedom Fighters Arc in Sonic Universe, I'm pretty sure about that. As for the redesigns I've had no problem with them as most of the characters look pretty much the same (with Sal having the most noticeable changes), what bugged me a tiny bit at first is that I thought Sally looked a little too younger and that her "snout" wasn't as visible. The younger part I can just write off as the Sega Style and as for her "snout" I think it'll be a little more visible once we get to see her more. The characters ARE the same characters we have seen since issue 1, it's just that they look a little different. But hey I can understand why someone would stop reading the comic, for me though it's not just the Sonic Comic that has the SatAM characters in, it's the ONLY Offical Sonic Comic that's still running! Now I LOVE a LOT of Fan Comics (Sea3on, STC-O, Other-M) but I do like it when game companies allow others to make comics out of them. Although for STC I would count it as still running because of STC-O, but when it comes to consistently published Sonic Comics Archie still stands.

 

This has me raising a question though for Sega, why not have another Sonic Comic running in other territories? I mean I KNOW that some issues of Archie Sonic get to other countries one way or another but why not commission a new Sonic Comic? Are they scared, would that cost too much money, just what is it? More puzzling is why there isn't a Sonic Manga, I mean a new and recurring Sonic Manga, I know Sonic isn't that popular over in Japan but it does have it's fans. The only Manga's Sonic got was during the earlier days when Sonic 1 and 2 were coming out and during 2003/2004. So why not have one in order to boost the character's popularity? Anyway, I'm still sticking with it, I've stated before but I like this writing team and they do a good job, they have had their missteps due to the lawsuit and a few things with the comic itself but other then that it's still good. I feel like if either Penders and/or Bollers (mainly Bollers) would have continued writing for the comic it would have been cancelled by now, so I'm happy that it's still running after all these years.
 

[Prince ByTor]

 

Look guys, I am really biased with the Sonic comics. I Don't know why. I've supported the comics through thick and thin. I was with them when Sally got Roboticized, I was with them when Antoine was in a coma and Bunnie left. I guess it's because I read these comics so I can see what will happen with the Satam characters I know and love and that I loved the games and cartoons. With the comics being like if Satam mixed in with the games, that's all i've always wanted. And now that they're being reintroduced in the comics, I couldn't be more excited. Ian said there were going to be changes with the book, and that's beyond his control. What these changes are, are only speculation at this point. If it seems that these changes are true, get over it. It's not like your opinions will change what happens to the book. Ian has been given a lot of crap over the years with his writing. I love his writing on the Sonic comics. Not only does he introduces game elements to the comic, he cleans up messes left by crappy writers like Ken Penders. If you don't like the changes, than stop reading the book. No one is forcing you to read it. But, if you're curious or biased like I am, I suggest you read future issues before making assumptions.

 

 

I don't read the comics anymore because I had my fill of them after having to endure 2 dreadful years of Other-M V2.0(AKA the Mecha Sally Arc). The only reason I even pay the least slight bit attention to it now is because I'm a big fan of Sally and Bunnie. They deserve better than the crap they've endured from Archie Sonic, but I know deep down they'll never get it.

 

This comic is about SEGA's wants and THEIR cast. The comic ones are just their stepping stools for them to be trampled upon when demanded. Pure and simple.

 

So yes, I have moved on because it's just beating a dead horse now. The characters I know and loved from the earlier days are dead and have been replaced by generic SEGASONIC clones. It sucks, but I suppose that's life. The greedy CEO's of a company always get the last word how a product is made, whether the fans want it or not.

 

Anyhow, you be positively biased towards the comic all you want. That's your right. Just please don't criticize me because I have chosen to take the opposite mindset of this whole manner.

 

 

The exact same feelings I have on the subject; almost word-for-word.

[TheRedStranger]

 

 

Look guys, I am really biased with the Sonic comics. I Don't know why. I've supported the comics through thick and thin. I was with them when Sally got Roboticized, I was with them when Antoine was in a coma and Bunnie left. I guess it's because I read these comics so I can see what will happen with the Satam characters I know and love and that I loved the games and cartoons. With the comics being like if Satam mixed in with the games, that's all i've always wanted. And now that they're being reintroduced in the comics, I couldn't be more excited. Ian said there were going to be changes with the book, and that's beyond his control. What these changes are, are only speculation at this point. If it seems that these changes are true, get over it. It's not like your opinions will change what happens to the book. Ian has been given a lot of crap over the years with his writing. I love his writing on the Sonic comics. Not only does he introduces game elements to the comic, he cleans up messes left by crappy writers like Ken Penders. If you don't like the changes, than stop reading the book. No one is forcing you to read it. But, if you're curious or biased like I am, I suggest you read future issues before making assumptions.

 

 

I don't read the comics anymore because I had my fill of them after having to endure 2 dreadful years of Other-M V2.0(AKA the Mecha Sally Arc). The only reason I even pay the least slight bit attention to it now is because I'm a big fan of Sally and Bunnie. They deserve better than the crap they've endured from Archie Sonic, but I know deep down they'll never get it.

 

This comic is about SEGA's wants and THEIR cast. The comic ones are just their stepping stools for them to be trampled upon when demanded. Pure and simple.

 

So yes, I have moved on because it's just beating a dead horse now. The characters I know and loved from the earlier days are dead and have been replaced by generic SEGASONIC clones. It sucks, but I suppose that's life. The greedy CEO's of a company always get the last word how a product is made, whether the fans want it or not.

 

Anyhow, you be positively biased towards the comic all you want. That's your right. Just please don't criticize me because I have chosen to take the opposite mindset of this whole manner.

 

 

The exact same feelings I have on the subject; almost word-for-word.

 

 

 When a door closes, another door opens...

 

 If they don't wish to capitalize on the Satam cast, that leaves oppurtunty to us fans to make something epic and make them eat it as we suck away all the fan-base's attention.  

[Mike Arcade]

I don't know about that, considering they are getting the band back together (so to speak), redesigned or not THEY ARE BACK. Of course they are gonna capitalize on them, everything after the 1st Wave was a pretty cool experiment that while it lasted a little too long shows that the comic can be gripping. Think about it like this, Eggman realized that Sonic is the embodiment of Chaos, in a way he saw the 4th wall and is defying it in anyway he can now. So with that in mind he decided to bend reality to his terms so to speak by using The Waves, and even though the 1st Wave didn't work out as well as he planned he basically won that battle in the end by getting Mecha Sally. Everything else was either Naugus' doing or the ineptness of The Acorn People (and some subtle mind control by Naugus). NOW with the 2nd and Super Wave it looks like things are turning AGAINST him, for one he doesn't have Mecha Sally anymore, and two apparently GUN is taking initiative and literally HUNTING him down! Yes, I want to know and someday see what might have happened had things gone back to normal but with all the bull with Characters and stuff going on outside the comic now over we can get back on track here, and think of it like this, we are getting Sally A LOT earlier then what might have been originally intended. Also like I've said before, a LOT MORE plot and story arc possibilities have now opened because of this Soft Reset as well, and I'm all for it.

[Alextendo]

[Uncle Ben]

That was actually kinda decent.

[Mike Arcade]

That was actually kinda decent.

 

Wait, seriously!?! I mean I liked this issue a lot since it gives us a LOT of new and cool stuff but YOU like it?

 

...*Head Explodes*

[Uncle Ben]

 

That was actually kinda decent.

 

Wait, seriously!?! I mean I liked this issue a lot since it gives us a LOT of new and cool stuff but YOU like it?

 

...*Head Explodes*

 

 

i said kinda for a reason, i feel the whole retcon is highly unneccisary. But as a way to bring it back into things it was good. Though i dont like how looking at NICOLE caused everyone to spontainously remember everything

[bwrosas]

 

 

Wednesday, September 4, 2013, start time : 5:03 PM

 

This is a review of issues 230 to 247.  As you will see in the picture provided or the link to the picture provided, I have finally opened those 17 issues that I had received in the mail, but had yet opened until yesterday.  

 

Now I will say this, as I opened and look through them, I will admit that I had an uneasy feeling when I saw Sally in her robot form, doing and saying things that were not of her character.  Now I understand that in the story, she was not in control of her actions.  But even still, I could not imagine her doing or saying those things.  But again I understand that this was all done to develop her character even more than it had ever been, as well as opened the door for other characters to grab the spotlight and run with it.

 

As far as Sally's sacrifice went. From what I saw and read, she and Nicole had basically no other option, and from how the scene was written, because she was given a second chance at life, she decided to give that back to the planet that she loves, and to her friends and family that she loves.

 

As far as her being modified, one of the things I like to look for is the tiniest detail that one might overlook.  You see for those that feel that Ian Flynn had the Doctor gut her and basically rebuild her from the ground up, let's just say that my theory on her having weaponized armor welded onto her body, I think can be backed up.  You may ask how can it be backed up?  Very simple, you see the tools that the Doctor was using, were measuring tools for her arms and her head, and from what I could see and tell, he was measuring her as if he was measuring her for an outfit or a dress.  But then it is confirmed even more,  when you look at issue 239 or 240,  there is a splash panel on top of the other pages of Sally and Amy engaging each other in a fight.  And when you look at this splash panel you see Sally's tail sticking out of her backside as if she's wearing a uniform or as I have said before armor.  Now one may ask  Well what about the laser Cannon in her head?,  again look at the littlest detail,  she had a connector connecting the laser Cannon to her brain inside, thus proving that there was no brain removal.  Another way at proving this theory correct.  Is why would  Eggman modified a power ring, if he had literally taken her apart and rebuilt her, if he was worried about a regular power ring restoring her free will, he wouldn't.

 

Now speaking of her free will, issues 237 and mostly 238 Prove to me that Ian Flynn had originally planned on climaxing this story arc at the 250th issue, because when you look at 238 and Sally's confrontation with Tails, you could see bits of Sally coming through, as she gave Tails an option that she did not have to give him if she was fully gone.  And when you look at 239 or 240, she could have easily gone to her brother's hut first and foremost, but she saved it for last and when you look at the picture/panel of her looking out the window and saying target lost, you could almost see Sally breaking through because of the possible emotion of sadness seen on her face.  Which again tells me that Ian Flynn had originally planned for Sally to regain her free will as the first step and then be restored in 250 as the final step.  But unfortunately thanks to some behind-the-scenes shenanigans, plans were altered.

 

Now I spoke earlier of characters grabbing the spotlight and running with it.  Well what surprised me and I'm sure surprised a lot of you, was the fact that we had maybe four characters that you would never have thought of getting the spotlight.  Let's take Isabella Mongoose, not only did she become the newest member of the Royal concile, but she was responsible for having that cabinet allow Nicole back into the city.  Then we have the pink wolf twins (Lyteea and Lyco) not just getting the spotlight and running with it in 237 and 238, but also in the SU arc about the secret freedom fighters as well as in 240 and 241, and then we have Erma, who in 247 was the only one that could decipher what Silver was talking about, when he revealed Sally as being the traitor.  Erma basically said that between Silver's future and their present, that the information might have been lost, and that historians in Silver's time or leading up to it, didn't know that the tratior was working  against their will or that the possibility of turning flesh and blood beings into robots even existed.  So I do give credit to Ian Flynn on not just giving characters that as many fans have pointed out needed more of the spotlight, but by giving characters we as fans never would have thought of getting the spotlight and having it given to them.

 

Now as far as the characters acting out of character, I think Ian was trying to put a bit of a reality spin on the situation.  In other words when you have so much emotional stress put on you, the last thing you need is for somebody to come out of nowhere and press the wrong emotional button that will set you off and make you act like you normally wouldn't. And that is why a lot of the characters were OOC in this story arc as some fans had pointed out and complained about.  

 

As far as Endangered Species go, in 243 you can see where Ian Flynn was going with it, but as soon as 244 came around you could also see what he had to alter due to the behind-the-scenes shenanigans that were taking place.  And if you don't believe me, there is a fan out there that posted some pics of the original draft,  picture drafts that is, of what was originally supposed to be drawn and take place.  

 

I will agree on one thing, the advertisements/adaptions based around sporting events and games could have waited or taking place at the appropriate time.  Of course I'm talking about issue 242 and Universe issue 45.  I agree those could have waited or could have been done at the appropriate times that they needed to be done.

 

And as far as Worlds Collide goes, I believe you still could have done it, but have it done either in Universe and Mega man or wait until the original story arc that was supposed to climax in 250 is/was over.

 

Now as far as the retcon goes, it seems Nicole will be the key in everyone except Sonic regaining their memories of the past timeline/past world, and it might even indicate that the events in 252 had occurred perhaps before the Endangered Species arc, which means down the line we may see certain characters returning.

 

Overall, it has been one heck of a bumpy ride that will either continue to get more bumpier as we head into Countdown to Chaos or will start to smooth out and be a smoothed and enjoyable ride from here on in.  We just have to wait and find out.

 

And that is my review that I promised when this whole story arc began, I promised a review and this is it.  Grade wise on this entire story arc, I give it a C+, because I know whither I get along with the guy or not or whither anybody else gets along with Ian or not, they have to admit that he did his damnedest. Despite the fact that there were many alterations and interruptions that had to be made and had taken place.

 

End of review.

 

Wednesday, September 4, 2013, End time : 5:48 PM