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[Uncle Ben]

I think the covers matching is just a coincidence

[Alextendo]

I think the covers matching is just a coincidence

What? How so? I mean, when you look at it, you see Sonic jumping from the first cover to the second and then bounce to the third one. Laser pass from one cover to the another, etc.

[Uncle Ben]

 

I think the covers matching is just a coincidence

What? How so? I mean, when you look at it, you see Sonic jumping from the first cover to the second and then bounce to the third one. Laser pass from one cover to the another, etc.

 

 

I understand where you are going with it but i think it just ended up together that way. Maybe you are right

[blue]

Well why would you write them if they were gonna be back tracked later?

I hate to be rude, but it's partially your and the fans' fault for aggressively criticizing the decisions for the past 24 issues or so. If the critics are at least accepted the Mecha Sally story for what it is, then we would have resolved it. Although it probably didn't stop the lawsuit. The creators are giving you what you want and you still complain about it.

Also, for the future of the comics; Well crap, that's kinda iffy. Then again it might be decent for what it is.

[Uncle Ben]

 

Well why would you write them if they were gonna be back tracked later?

I hate to be rude, but it's partially your and the fans' fault for aggressively criticizing the decisions for the past 24 issues or so. If the critics are at least accepted the Mecha Sally story for what it is, then we would have resolved it. Although it probably didn't stop the lawsuit. The creators are giving you what you want and you still complain about it.

Also, for the future of the comics; Well crap, that's kinda iffy. Then again it might be decent for what it is.

 

 

You thinks it OUR fault that the comic is coming up short? HA!! That's a good one. "The creators are giving you what you want..." Did we want Sally roboticized? Hell freaking no. We complained because this is what we DIDNT want. Lets break down some of the events of the past 24 issue.

 

1) Sally being Roboticized and the fallout: We did not want this. Some feel this was an uneccisary shock value Ian has been known of doing. And then saying the Freedom Fighters were done cause of that, Ant' W.I.A. and Bunnie M.I.A.?? That felt out of character for Sonic, You dont lie down and say the freedom fighters are done you go out and and you f*cking save your (Female) best friend/girlfriend and find Bunnie. Ant' will recover in due time. And another thing as well, Why the hell would Bunnie leave her husbands side even if he was in a coma, you would be there for him.

 

2) Silver: He has been running around causing problems since he showed up in the comic. Once he learned that Sally was roboticized he immediately began his "crusade" again to "eliminate" the "traitor" thinking it was Sally. I know Sonic berated him for it but if i was Sonic he should have gave him a swift kick to head. You dont do shit like that, sure he figured out his job was to SAVE her not "eliminate" her he should have figured it out sooner amd save everone from a major headache.

 

3) Sonic's attitude: Okay you dont act like a cocky bastid infront of your best friend/girlfriend. Remember even if shes roboticized she stills remembers everything. He's acting like this isnt a big deal. It should be. What if your best friend or significant other was roboticized, what would you do. I dont think you would act like it isnt a big deal. You would be torn up.

 

and finally...

 

4) Retconned: The past 2 years retconned. Why? Well the main reason is (assumed) to be fallout from the Archie v. Penders lawsuit but serious to retconn 2 years worth of the comic is a little extreme. All they had to do was just clear loose ends involving Penders' characters and just continue the story how it was.

 

But i'm gonna say this, I'm sorry Flynn had to put up with the lawsuit and he had to change his plans a bit but he's still 25% of the problem in my book. 5% Penders and 70% SEGA/Archie for being extremely strict about the comic and its restrictions and regulations. Plus trying to appease the newer generation while slowly abandoning the older generation? Not cool. The newer guys are getting their way cause they dont like the comic cast mainly cause they dont know them or dont recognize them. Theres a way to intergrate old and new but Archie appears to be not doing that

[Alextendo]

Hey guys, i can explain the recent issue in a nutshell: Sonic Archie as you imagine it

[blue]

 

 

Well why would you write them if they were gonna be back tracked later?

I hate to be rude, but it's partially your and the fans' fault for aggressively criticizing the decisions for the past 24 issues or so. If the critics are at least accepted the Mecha Sally story for what it is, then we would have resolved it. Although it probably didn't stop the lawsuit. The creators are giving you what you want and you still complain about it.

Also, for the future of the comics; Well crap, that's kinda iffy. Then again it might be decent for what it is.

 

 

You thinks it OUR fault that the comic is coming up short? HA!! That's a good one. "The creators are giving you what you want..." Did we want Sally roboticized? Hell freaking no. We complained because this is what we DIDNT want. Lets break down some of the events of the past 24 issue.

 

1) Sally being Roboticized and the fallout: We did not want this. Some feel this was an uneccisary shock value Ian has been known of doing. And then saying the Freedom Fighters were done cause of that, Ant' W.I.A. and Bunnie M.I.A.?? That felt out of character for Sonic, You dont lie down and say the freedom fighters are done you go out and and you f*cking save your (Female) best friend/girlfriend and find Bunnie. Ant' will recover in due time. And another thing as well, Why the hell would Bunnie leave her husbands side even if he was in a coma, you would be there for him.

 

2) Silver: He has been running around causing problems since he showed up in the comic. Once he learned that Sally was roboticized he immediately began his "crusade" again to "eliminate" the "traitor" thinking it was Sally. I know Sonic berated him for it but if i was Sonic he should have gave him a swift kick to head. You dont do shit like that, sure he figured out his job was to SAVE her not "eliminate" her he should have figured it out sooner amd save everone from a major headache.

 

3) Sonic's attitude: Okay you dont act like a cocky bastid infront of your best friend/girlfriend. Remember even if shes roboticized she stills remembers everything. He's acting like this isnt a big deal. It should be. What if your best friend or significant other was roboticized, what would you do. I dont think you would act like it isnt a big deal. You would be torn up.

 

and finally...

 

4) Retconned: The past 2 years retconned. Why? Well the main reason is (assumed) to be fallout from the Archie v. Penders lawsuit but serious to retconn 2 years worth of the comic is a little extreme. All they had to do was just clear loose ends involving Penders' characters and just continue the story how it was.

 

But i'm gonna say this, I'm sorry Flynn had to put up with the lawsuit and he had to change his plans a bit but he's still 25% of the problem in my book. 5% Penders and 70% SEGA/Archie for being extremely strict about the comic and its restrictions and regulations. Plus trying to appease the newer generation while slowly abandoning the older generation? Not cool. The newer guys are getting their way cause they dont like the comic cast mainly cause they dont know them or dont recognize them. Theres a way to intergrate old and new but Archie appears to be not doing that

 

Wow, I really ticked you off. Sorry. And I never said that all of the critics of the comic are all at fault.

What I meant was that you and your faction of the Sonic Fan base never let the Mecha Sally arc to breathe for its full potential. We there problem with this arc. Yes, but I still enjoyed it regardless. I do agree that Ian bear some blame from the behind the scenes debacle. If you don't like it. That's fine, but at least give the comic a chance and people judge it for themselves rather than telling them to stay away from it.

I apologize if this post is preachy to you.

[LaserX5]

I hate to be rude, but it's partially your and the fans' fault for aggressively criticizing the decisions for the past 24 issues or so. If the critics are at least accepted the Mecha Sally story for what it is, then we would have resolved it. Although it probably didn't stop the lawsuit. The creators are giving you what you want and you still complain about it.

Also, for the future of the comics; Well crap, that's kinda iffy. Then again it might be decent for what it is.

 

 

That is really an unfair analysis to say the Mecha Sally arc crashed and burned partly on our account.

 

First off, we didn't ask for this kind of story in the first place. Sally getting roboticized is a tired and over done cliched plot of the series. It's even been done by so many fanfic writers for years on end it's now monotonous. If someone had to be roboticized in the comic to spice things up, it should have been a character it's never happened to before.

 

Secondly, they took the half-assed, extremely lazy approach to resolving the conflicts. I mean, just retconning everything with a Genesis Wave as if it never happened? Yea, that's a really smart idea. Get the readers deep into the drama and then use a magic wand to fix it all.

 

Thirdly, I think this would have happened regardless of us accepting it or not. The lawsuit definitely played a large part in this, and SEGA being iron-fisted and demanding the comic become completely like their game franchise certainly did as well.

 

And lastly, the creators did not give us what they want. They gave us the bird to us old school fans and then said, "Deal with it."

 

Sorry to be so blunt on that last part, but that's the way I really feel about this whole crapshoot. The least Archie could have done was given us a decent conclusion to this whole story.

[LogiTeeka]

1) Sally being Roboticized and the fallout: We did not want this. Some feel this was an unnecessary shock value Ian has been known of doing. And then saying the Freedom Fighters were done cause of that, Ant' W.I.A. and Bunnie M.I.A.?? That felt out of character for Sonic, You dont lie down and say the freedom fighters are done you go out and and you f*cking save your (Female) best friend/girlfriend and find Bunnie. Ant' will recover in due time. And another thing as well, Why the hell would Bunnie leave her husbands side even if he was in a coma, you would be there for him.

 

Honestly, I don't think it was that "out of character" for Sonic to feel overwhelmed. I mean, if your girfriend's been roboticized, your hometown in peril, your close friend stuck in comma, and your king replaced by an old foe... Yeah, it can mess with your head. Sonic tried coping with these losses, but nearly had a pre-midlife crisis as a result. What it really took was some encouragement from his friends to let him know he wasn't alone in this fight. If anything, this is the best development the current Sonic has ever had recently.

 

Also, Bunnie was feeling guilty for not saving Antoine due to the loss of her bionic limbs. Due to her background appearances in the Chaotix storyarc, it's easy to assume that she left in order to gain her bionic parts back by joining her uncle's legion.

 

2) Silver: He has been running around causing problems since he showed up in the comic. Once he learned that Sally was roboticized he immediately began his "crusade" again to "eliminate" the "traitor" thinking it was Sally. I know Sonic berated him for it but if i was Sonic he should have gave him a swift kick to head. You dont do shit like that, sure he figured out his job was to SAVE her not "eliminate" her he should have figured it out sooner amd save everone from a major headache.

 

History has the habit of being exaggerated as time goes on; details get lost and events are dramatized. There's no way Silver would've known on time. I mean, if you were time-traveling, trying to decode the past would be an extremely difficult thing to do.

 

3) Sonic's attitude: Okay you dont act like a cocky bastid infront of your best friend/girlfriend. Remember even if shes roboticized she stills remembers everything. He's acting like this isnt a big deal. It should be. What if your best friend or significant other was roboticized, what would you do. I dont think you would act like it isnt a big deal. You would be torn up.

 

Sonic was feeling pepped-up due to his chat with Tails and Amy, and he probably felt that things were looking up for them. Sonic has done that multiple times in SatAM, yet no one complained about that?

 

Also, he tried talking to Sally as if she were still alive. It's not like he mocked her or anything.

 

4) Retconned: The past 2 years retconned. Why? Well the main reason is (assumed) to be fallout from the Archie v. Penders lawsuit but serious to retconn 2 years worth of the comic is a little extreme. All they had to do was just clear loose ends involving Penders' characters and just continue the story how it was.

 

Okay, that is stupid, but he might as well do it. I mean, most of the comic's mythology is either Penders' or based around Penders' material; placing most of the comic's continuity off-limits. For example, Naugus is no longer called "Ixis" due to the Order of Ixis being Penders' creation.

 

What Ian said about keeping the old continuity, he probably meant the SatAM-inspired influences. Thus, from what I've seen so far, many elements in the "semi-reboot" look eerily similar to their SatAM or pre-Penders depictions. For example, Naugus now has a tail as seen in "The Void", King Acorn looks closer to his SatAM depiction, and New Mobotropolis is back to being the original Mobotropolis. Also, a former SatAM-exclusive character is said to make a return in an upcoming issue.

 

If anything, it's nice to see the comic adapt more stuff from the show that originally inspired it.

[Prince ByTor]

 

That is really an unfair analysis to say the Mecha Sally arc crashed and burned partly on our account.

 

First off, we didn't ask for this kind of story in the first place. Sally getting roboticized is a tired and over done cliched plot of the series. It's even been done by so many fanfic writers for years on end it's now monotonous. If someone had to be roboticized in the comic to spice things up, it should have been a character it's never happened to before.

 

Secondly, they took the half-assed, extremely lazy approach to resolving the conflicts. I mean, just retconning everything with a Genesis Wave as if it never happened? Yea, that's a really smart idea. Get the readers deep into the drama and then use a magic wand to fix it all.

 

Thirdly, I think this would have happened regardless of us accepting it or not. The lawsuit definitely played a large part in this, and SEGA being iron-fisted and demanding the comic become completely like their game franchise certainly did as well.

 

And lastly, the creators did not give us what they want. They gave us the bird to us old school fans and then said, "Deal with it."

 

Sorry to be so blunt on that last part, but that's the way I really feel about this whole crapshoot. The least Archie could have done was given us a decent conclusion to this whole story.

 

 

Agreed 110%; I couldn't have written it better myself!

[LogiTeeka]

First off, we didn't ask for this kind of story in the first place. Sally getting roboticized is a tired and over done cliched plot of the series. It's even been done by so many fanfic writers for years on end it's now monotonous. If someone had to be roboticized in the comic to spice things up, it should have been a character it's never happened to before.

 

I don't see anything wrong with the idea of Sally being roboticized. I mean, one of the commen "criticisms" I hear from haters is that Sally's too perfect. While I believe that to be somewhat true to a certain extent, I thought her being roboticized was a good way of showing she wasn't impervious to peril.

 

Yeah, it didn't really contribute much to the plot, but it did create a sense of loss for our heroes and a way of sympathizing with their current predicament. We wanted to see them prevail.

 

With people complaining that "Sally didn't deserve it", I say "what Robian didn't deserve it?" Uncle Chuck was a kind soul, yet he was roboticized along with everyone else during Robotnik's rein. Did any of them deserve it? Complaints like these make Sally seem like some sort of goddess that no one should ever touch.

[jtreese]

Guys, chill! We don't know if they retconned the past 2 years of Sonic comics. All Sonic said was that he remembered things going differently. Like he got the details wrong. The redesigns WERE neccessary because the TV series is 20 years old. Bunnie and Rotor had their redesigns in the past, but they still didn't look like Sonic characters. If these character are going to be in a Sonic book, they need to look like Sonic characters. Plus, people didn't give SEGA crap when they redesigned the Sonic characters in Sonic Adventure. And Uncle Ben, if you don't like these changes, you might as well drop the book. Because I think we are going to stay on this "New Mobius" and honestly i don't mind it. 

 

 

 

[bwrosas]

 

 

11:05 AM, Wednesday, August 28, 2013.

 

Within the past 24 to 48 hours, many fans on this message board and others have received issue 252 and within the past week almost have read and looked at the six page preview, many ask the question, and that question is : ''What was the point of the past two years of this story arc?"

 

Now that is a very good question.  Many feel that there was no point whatsoever for Ian Flynn to write this story arc and place established characters into situations that as of 252 and the upcoming Countdown To Chaos will have no resolve whatsoever.  In other words have no absolute conclusion.  Why would fans feel this way?, Mainly because Ian Flynn with all due respect in my opinion wrote himself into a corner.

 

Now I'm not saying that to be bias, I'm saying that because from what has gone on behind the scenes, it seems that it is the most logical answer.  You see, Ian Flynn had to alter/change his original plans of the story arc because of what happened behind the scenes.  And to me with all due respect, I feel even though Ian had planned this story arc out from beginning to end, that he did not have a plan set in place in case something happened that would be beyond his control.  Because it seems that a lot of the edits and changes that were made to the issues in the story arc were done almost at the last minute/11th hour, in other words almost right to the last second of the deadline that the story was required to be ready for publication because of what happened behind the scenes.

 

Longtime fans and new fans can blame the lawsuit for these sudden changes and alteration of plans in the story arc.  Some can blame the interference of Sega and Capcom was sticking their nose in at the wrong time in ordering the crossover to take place during the planned schedule time that Ian was hoping to wrap up his current story arc.  And again some fans can blame Ian Flynn himself.  Once again though, with all due respect to Ian Flynn, I believe as a longtime fan myself, someone who is read the comic from the very beginning and started to officially subscribed to it since issue 72 which should be about 180 issues ago this month, I believe that he had everything set and ready to go as planned, but the downfall was the fact that he didn't plan out a backup plan in case anything would happen behind the scenes.  Thus the reason why some fans are confused and if not more upset at the fact that Ian Flynn took them on a two-year ride with no final destination insight.   

 

However in reality, a change of plans is not uncommon.  A couple of weeks ago, my second older sister and her husband were supposed to fly out of Las Vegas and come here to pick up the sons on the 18th of this month, but because mother nature decided to rain down on their plans, they had to wait an extra day and then fly out finally and get their kids.  Another example would be myself during that same situation, for you see I had planned to wake my nine-year-old nephew up to get him ready for school when his dad's father would pick him up and take him there, and while he would be gone, I would relax, do some vids for my YouTube channel, and possibly watch some movies as well as see what was going on on the Internet.  But because of the fact that my second older sister and her husband had to wait an extra day, their sons were here and thus that had altered my plans.  So again a change of plans is not uncommon in life.  One more example would be the fact, that my oldest sister was going to take my now 21-year-old niece to see American storm in Las Vegas, but because of the fact that they were on tour, a change of plans and destination had to be made, thus they decided to do the traditional Chippendale's instead.  And once again this shows that even though we plan out something and hope to achieve it and see it happen as we plan it out, sometimes plans will be altered and changed and if a destination is in mind within those plans, that it too can be altered and changed.  And that is exactly what happened with Ian Flynn's story arc.

 

Now one could argue, that even if that is the case, why was there no conclusion?  Because Ian's orginal plans for the story arc were altered and changed because he did not have a backup plan just in case certain things happened behind the scenes that would be beyond his control.

 

But I will say this, Ian and Paul do owe a straight forward, truthful explanation as to what the point was to the story arc of the past 2 1/2 years.  I will say that they do owe the entire fan base, the readers/subscribers an explanation.

 

And that is my take on this whole situation that's been talked about for the past week and more recently for the past 24 to 48 hours.

 

11:35 AM, Wednesday, August 28, 2013

[Prince ByTor]

Guys, chill! We don't know if they retconned the past 2 years of Sonic comics. All Sonic said was that he remembered things going differently. Like he got the details wrong. The redesigns WERE neccessary because the TV series is 20 years old. Bunnie and Rotor had their redesigns in the past, but they still didn't look like Sonic characters. If these character are going to be in a Sonic book, they need to look like Sonic characters. Plus, people didn't give SEGA crap when they redesigned the Sonic characters in Sonic Adventure. And Uncle Ben, if you don't like these changes, you might as well drop the book. Because I think we are going to stay on this "New Mobius" and honestly i don't mind it. 

 

True, I'm guessing that this world will be somehow combined with the old one, but I truly hope that I'm wrong. I actually kind of like this new world as well.

As far as them being "Sega characters" and needing to look as such, Sega has treated them like red-headed step children for 20 years now, changing them now won't make any difference one way or the other. Sega will not put them in a game or put them in a new cartoon either; they will continue making more games with stupid, two dimensional characters further clogging up the cast. The only reason they did this is they believe this will make them more acceptable to the game continuity fans, which in my opinion will be like farting at a hurricane: there will be no difference, they will still hate them no matter what and find new reasons to do so. All Archie and Sega care about is increasing sales, if that means potentially sacrificing older fans that love these characters for the possible countless thralls of newer game fans, then that's fine with them. Sega is a company run by arrogant and ignorant people; this is just another poor decision in a long line of bad decisions concerning Sonic. If I'm wrong about this I will gladly eat my words, but I know I am right.

[jtreese]

 

Guys, chill! We don't know if they retconned the past 2 years of Sonic comics. All Sonic said was that he remembered things going differently. Like he got the details wrong. The redesigns WERE neccessary because the TV series is 20 years old. Bunnie and Rotor had their redesigns in the past, but they still didn't look like Sonic characters. If these character are going to be in a Sonic book, they need to look like Sonic characters. Plus, people didn't give SEGA crap when they redesigned the Sonic characters in Sonic Adventure. And Uncle Ben, if you don't like these changes, you might as well drop the book. Because I think we are going to stay on this "New Mobius" and honestly i don't mind it. 

 

True, I'm guessing that this world will be somehow combined with the old one, but I truly hope that I'm wrong. I actually kind of like this new world as well.

As far as them being "Sega characters" and needing to look as such, Sega has treated them like red-headed step children for 20 years now, changing them now won't make any difference one way or the other. Sega will not put them in a game or put them in a new cartoon either; they will continue making more games with stupid, two dimensional characters further clogging up the cast. The only reason they did this is they believe this will make them more acceptable to the game continuity fans, which in my opinion will be like farting at a hurricane: there will be no difference, they will still hate them no matter what and find new reasons to do so. All Archie and Sega care about is increasing sales, if that means potentially sacrificing older fans that love these characters for the possible countless thralls of newer game fans, then that's fine with them. Sega is a company run by arrogant and ignorant people; this is just another poor decision in a long line of bad decisions concerning Sonic. If I'm wrong about this I will gladly eat my words, but I know I am right.

 

Exactly, thank you.

[LaserX5]

Guys, chill! We don't know if they retconned the past 2 years of Sonic comics. All Sonic said was that he remembered things going differently. Like he got the details wrong. The redesigns WERE neccessary because the TV series is 20 years old. Bunnie and Rotor had their redesigns in the past, but they still didn't look like Sonic characters. If these character are going to be in a Sonic book, they need to look like Sonic characters. Plus, people didn't give SEGA crap when they redesigned the Sonic characters in Sonic Adventure. And Uncle Ben, if you don't like these changes, you might as well drop the book. Because I think we are going to stay on this "New Mobius" and honestly i don't mind it. 

 

Sorry, but they did retcon this:

 

Definition of retcon from Urban dictionary: Adding or altering information regarding the back story of a fictional character or world, regardless of whether the change contradicts what was said before.

 

Funny you mentioned that Sonic said he would be remembering things differently. Well, that is basically altering his past in a sense, thus what happened to him is being changed. In other words: Retconned.

 

And I'm not against them looking like Sonic characters, but I am against giving them designs where Sally looks like another Amy Rose and Bunnie is another Cream. Honestly, they already looked enough like Sonic characters anyway, especially once Yardley become the artist.

[jtreese]

 

Guys, chill! We don't know if they retconned the past 2 years of Sonic comics. All Sonic said was that he remembered things going differently. Like he got the details wrong. The redesigns WERE neccessary because the TV series is 20 years old. Bunnie and Rotor had their redesigns in the past, but they still didn't look like Sonic characters. If these character are going to be in a Sonic book, they need to look like Sonic characters. Plus, people didn't give SEGA crap when they redesigned the Sonic characters in Sonic Adventure. And Uncle Ben, if you don't like these changes, you might as well drop the book. Because I think we are going to stay on this "New Mobius" and honestly i don't mind it. 

 

Sorry, but they did retcon this:

 

Definition of retcon from Urban dictionary: Adding or altering information regarding the back story of a fictional character or world, regardless of whether the change contradicts what was said before.

 

Funny you mentioned that Sonic said he would be remembering things differently. Well, that is basically altering his past in a sense, thus what happened to him is being changed. In other words: Retconned.

 

And I'm not against them looking like Sonic characters, but I am against giving them designs where Sally looks like another Amy Rose and Bunnie is another Cream. Honestly, they already looked enough like Sonic characters anyway, especially once Yardley become the artist.

 

I know they altered some things, but they didn't retcon the whole series. There are still issues of the book that you have to read to get a full sense of the story.

[Uncle Ben]

 

I know they altered some things, but they didn't retcon the whole series. There are still issues of the book that you have to read to get a full sense of the story.

 

 

But the retconned nearly a lot of the back story..... Penders did add a rather good job at making a background of the comics and its a lot of stuff they might be changing

 

Wow, I really ticked you off. Sorry. And I never said that all of the critics of the comic are all at fault.

What I meant was that you and your faction of the Sonic Fan base never let the Mecha Sally arc to breathe for its full potential. We there problem with this arc. Yes, but I still enjoyed it regardless. I do agree that Ian bear some blame from the behind the scenes debacle. If you don't like it. That's fine, but at least give the comic a chance and people judge it for themselves rather than telling them to stay away from it.

I apologize if this post is preachy to you.

 

 

You are so lucky i didnt use much more colorful language. We tried letting it breathe but when Eggman took the blowtorch to Sally to "weaponize" her was the final straw for a lot of us. Its was drastically unneccisary. I'll admit it started okay but then it was lackluster. Plus as i said before it was something we didnt want. I do as i always do with every issue i get: I give the comic's issue a chance, but i will admit i jumped the gun a bit and as i told Red, if i'm wrong i'll admit that i was.

 

And yes it was preachy

[LaserX5]

 

First off, we didn't ask for this kind of story in the first place. Sally getting roboticized is a tired and over done cliched plot of the series. It's even been done by so many fanfic writers for years on end it's now monotonous. If someone had to be roboticized in the comic to spice things up, it should have been a character it's never happened to before.

 

I don't see anything wrong with the idea of Sally being roboticized. I mean, one of the commen "criticisms" I hear from haters is that Sally's too perfect. While I believe that to be somewhat true to a certain extent, I thought her being roboticized was a good way of showing she wasn't impervious to peril.

 

Yeah, it didn't really contribute much to the plot, but it did create a sense of loss for our heroes and a way of sympathizing with their current predicament. We wanted to see them prevail.

 

With people complaining that "Sally didn't deserve it", I say "what Robian didn't deserve it?" Uncle Chuck was a kind soul, yet he was roboticized along with everyone else during Robotnik's rein. Did any of them deserve it? Complaints like these make Sally seem like some sort of goddess that no one should ever touch.

 

 

Well, you can blame Ian for the haters thinking that. He did make her too perfect, even too Mary-Sueish too.

 

Still, how is showing her get cut up with a blowtorch the way to show she's not invincible? Not to mention when has Sally ever been that way? She's been subjected to alot of crap the whole series, from constant breakups with Sonic, becoming an emotional trainwreck for awhile, even 3 times almost killed off.

 

Anyhow, you do make a good point no Mobian deserves to be roboticized. None do. It's a horrible, awful fate. Although, when we say Sally doesn't deserve this, we're implying she's already been through the whole roboticized thing and we want to see another get a turn at it.

 

There are plenty of Freedom Fighters who can fill this role and have us reader emotionally attached in the process. The problem is, Archie has got this crazy idea a story isn't a big enough bombshell if it doesn't involve something bad happen to Princess Sally. Think about it: Nearly every single big story this comic has done, she's at the center of the turmoil, and I seriously am sick of it.

 

I'm not trying to say Sally should never be touched and go through hardship, but isn't it time another Freedom Fighter had to deal with this and we see them going through a really rough patch that affects our main heroes?

[Uncle Ben]

Anyhow, you do make a good point no Mobian deserves to be roboticized. None do. It's a horrible, awful fate. Although, when we say Sally doesn't deserve this, we're implying she's already been through the whole roboticized thing and we want to see another get a turn at it.

 

 

The only one who slightly deserved it was Jules, i mean it DID save his life and he has accepted life as a robot