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[Robthe1st]

Check this out: http://www.tssznews....ders-mediation/

[ILOVEVHS]

SEGA is involved?


Hmmmm....

[Uncle Ben]

about damn time

[RedAuthar]

Seriously? While it's a good thing it also is a bad thing. SEGA getting involved could make the whole ordeal go on even longer.

[Uncle Ben]

True but still

[Captain Sorzo]

I don't see this as a good thing for Archie. If anything, Sega will likely tighten its noose, writing off the contested characters (which, being comic exclusive, do not advertise their games) as more trouble than they are worth. I wouldn't be surprised if additional mandates are put in place that require greater focus on the Sega cast, perhaps even to the point of rebooting the series and giving everyone else, SatAM gang included, the axe.

Sega's hurting financially right now, and any decisions they make will be based on what they think will generate more profits, not what is best for the characters or story of an overseas comic*. If the misappropriation of the Aliens: Colonial Marines budget by Gearbox has taught Sega anything, it's to keep greater oversight on its partners.

*-For example, one of their only mandates that actually benefited the comic was requiring Sally to survive Endgame. Yet even this was because they wanted to keep merchandise possibilities available, not out of any consideration for the character.

[Uncle Ben]

*-For example, one of their only mandates that actually benefited the comic was requiring Sally to survive Endgame. Yet even this was because they wanted to keep merchandise possibilities available, not out of any consideration for the character.

Not only that, she was kept because she was a fan favorite and Sega likes having them in the comic (just not the games) though i remember reading something a long time ago that Yuji Naka always thought of putting them in the games

[Fearfek]

Oh, don't get me started on that.

Rumors and evidence point to Sally almost getting into Sonic '06(Instead of Princess creepy. Some of the plot kind of makes sense now, doesn't it?), Sonic Generations, and a failed Sat-AM based project. I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting, but there's things out there about it.

As for the case, I'm still surprised that Penders actually thinks he could come out on top from this. Even if he wins, who would dare to buy anything he produces later on?

[Teirusu]

Rumors and evidence point to Sally almost getting into Sonic '06(Instead of Princess creepy. Some of the plot kind of makes sense now, doesn't it?)

No, it not make sense to me. Since the start of develop Sonic 2006, Sonic Team focused on make a more realistic Sonic in a more realistic world. Put it on an human world and interact with humans like Sonic Adventure 1. Make Sally the princess of a human world have no sense. And make a furry world isn't on their plan.

Sally is not really a favourite character, only for those who love SatAM. I understand in this forum a lot of people talk about her, but the reality is that in other Sonic's forum, no one give a shit, she don't even get mentioned. Shadow is a true fan favourite character, because thanks to the fans, He have his own game.



Aaaaanyway,

I don't care about Penders. The first days was interesting, now is pretty bored

[furrykef]

To be frank, I'm glad Princess Sally or other elements from the show haven't been put in the games. The only way to do it right would be to have two different continuities in the games, which would go against everything Sega's been striving for since the late 90s (remember, this is the company that fired the voice cast from the games so they could use the 4Kids voice cast for them -- can't have poor little children getting confused!). More problematic would be that, IMO, a good SatAM game wouldn't play anything like a good SegaSonic game, and that would further reduce the chances that Sega would get it right. In an ideal universe, yeah, we'd get SatAM games and they'd be great, but with the Sega of our universe, I'm glad they didn't pursue it.

Back to the court case. I'm not sure why Sega's getting involved, since I thought the legal debate doesn't have much to do with them. (Yeah, there was that bit about Penders suing Sega over Sonic Chronicles, but that was largely a separate issue -- though of course whether Penders has any copyright on his work would obviously have bearing on that case.) I'm thinking it's probably to settle the issue of whether certain characters like the echidnas are derivative (which, let's face it, they are) and therefore Penders can't lay any claim on them so long as they're Knuckles knockoffs. If so, Penders might well just mess with the character designs like he should have in the first place until Sega is satisfied, and then it'd be back to an issue between Archie and Penders.

[Uncle Ben]

but if he messes with them to the point where SEGA is satisified they may not look like what they were so Archie can use them cause they would be different

[Skylar]

*-For example, one of their only mandates that actually benefited the comic was requiring Sally to survive Endgame. Yet even this was because they wanted to keep merchandise possibilities available, not out of any consideration for the character.

Not only that, she was kept because she was a fan favorite and Sega likes having them in the comic (just not the games) though i remember reading something a long time ago that Yuji Naka always thought of putting them in the games

Naughty naughty. Someone didn't play Sonic Spin all.

[Uncle Ben]

spinoffs dont count

[Speedy_25]

Okay, where's the popcorn.....and movie snacks....anyone.....

[Uncle Ben]

Okay, where's the popcorn.....and movie snacks....anyone.....

(throws a bag of popcorn)

[LogiTeeka]

spinoffs dont count

Sad, but true. That's the reason why you don't see Sega acknowledging the hand-held series anymore (Gamegear, Advance, ect.). The only hand-held game they seem to care about is "Sonic Rush", since it introduced Blaze the Cat to the franchise. Heck, its sequel "Sonic Rush Adventure" seems to have been forgotten as well.

But then again, there were some awful games released on the hand-held consoles as well (Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Genesis), so maybe they want to distance themselves from those titles in order to keep a good reputation.

[Uncle Ben]

i think this shows SEGA does care about the comic characters in some way

[Skylar]

Yeah. By shoving them to some other end of the spectrum so that the games don't taint the comics and vise versa.

Oh, wait, we're talking about Archie. Never mind.

[Uncle Ben]

i heard a rumor that there is another reason why Sega is getting involved, not just because they are keeping an eye on Archie now or cause Penders asked. I heard it has something to do with what Sega is planning for the future

[Alextendo]

Like adding SatAM/Archie character in the newer game? HA! HA! HA! I know, i know, what i said was just silly