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[Vlad Yvhv]

Yeah. Let's see some stuff like perhaps Lupe teaching Tails survival tactics or something...

[ILOVEVHS]

am i seriously the only one that thinks there shouldnt be anyone else added to this AT ALL??? Hell they already have everyone they need for this other than the random background character they may show every once in awhile. the only two characters i would REMOTELY consider would probably be Julie-Su or Mina. but i dont think Shadow, Amy, Silver, Blaze and other SegaSonic Characters have a place in Sea3on. Thats just my opinion

I don't care if any characters are added. And if there are, I only want Metal Sonic.

[An7imatt3r]

am i seriously the only one that thinks there shouldnt be anyone else added to this AT ALL??? Hell they already have everyone they need for this other than the random background character they may show every once in awhile. the only two characters i would REMOTELY consider would probably be Julie-Su or Mina. but i dont think Shadow, Amy, Silver, Blaze and other SegaSonic Characters have a place in Sea3on. Thats just my opinion

Well I think it is a mix. Personally, I like the cast the way it is and was. However, we as a community are in a unique positions to make decisions with the show's direction. While I totally agree that we should not break what was never broken, I think it would be irresponsible not to at the very least entertain ideas that could work. That's why I requested that anyone who wants to see a character outside of the original cast + Knuckles, make a strong case for their character.

Keep in mind that we are using the Sea3on comic as a template, so if they wouldn't fit with in the confines of that, they would be hard to add. Obviously there are going to be differences between the show and comic, but we are likely going to follow the plot and direction pretty closely.

I will do my best to remain in the middle on this issue because I think there is a lot of room for some fun discussions here. I will however reiterate my previous request, that if you want to see a new character, you need to say more than just 'I think so and so should be in the show'. Back it up with how they would be introduced, how they would be part of the show in an ongoing capacity without hurting the team dynamic, what they bring to the table, and logic in general. Remember the characters are younger than they are in the Archie comics/ Sonic X!

[Uncle Ben]

Well Amy could be a Knothole Villager that tries to help out as she can i guess (PLEASE for the love Christ dont have her be all Sonic-crazy), Shadow is outta the question in my book cause he is locked away in an Overlander (for this story)/G.U.N. Vault, Cream could be something similar to Amy, Silver is futuristic and i guess he could show what happens if they fail, Blaze... not sure so no, Metal Sonic would be a bit redundant, Julie-Su could be a guardian with Knuckles thats stays with the Emerald, Mina could be some sort of aspiring musician in Knothole.

Those are some examples of their roles but i still stand on my grounds of no one unless its absolutely 100% necessary for anyone SegaSonic wise to be in there

though im willing to compromise in a way i guess. We dont need any new main characters.

Though truthfully i wanna see more of a backstory/development for Rotor, Ant' Bunnie, and Knuckles.

[Captain Sorzo]

It's been mentioned in this thread several times that there are many children in Knothole aside from Tails, but is that actually the case?

The village's population seems comprised mostly of those who were children at the time of the coup, a full decade before the events of the show. Given that the resistance is being orchestrated by teenagers (albeit highly competent ones shaped by an exceptionally difficult youth) by the time of the show, it suggests that few adults ever escaped to Knothole to begin with. Most of those who did presumably died (as with Julayla in the Archie continuity) or were roboticized (Cat, Rosie, and the two nameless FFs at the start of Blast to the Past) at some point over the previous decade.

As such, few, if any, children would have been born in Knothole. That leaves those who were infants at the time of the Coup (I believe Tails himself falls under this category, though I'm not certain), and thus could not be much younger than Tails. Having children with this background present seems more likely, though given the complete chaos Mobotropolis was in once Robotnik struck, the number likely isn't all that high.

I realize that this is largely conjecture, but it's something to consider. If anything, having Tails be the sole child in Knothole makes him more unique. Start adding in more orphans his age and it begs the question why Sally and the others don't step into a familial role with them as well. Do that and it weakens the relationship Tails has with his adoptive family.

There are surely ways around these issues, both logistic and thematic, but they would have to be carefully considered. Again, I think it's simply a case of being more trouble than it's worth.

[LogiTeeka]

Well Amy could be a Knothole Villager that tries to help out as she can i guess (PLEASE for the love Christ dont have her be all Sonic-crazy), Shadow is outta the question in my book cause he is locked away in an Overlander (for this story)/G.U.N. Vault, Cream could be something similar to Amy, Silver is futuristic and i guess he could show what happens if they fail, Blaze... not sure so no, Metal Sonic would be a bit redundant, Julie-Su could be a guardian with Knuckles thats stays with the Emerald, Mina could be some sort of aspiring musician in Knothole.

Honestly, most of these aren't that bad. They can still keep their overall backgrounds, but altered in various ways to differentiate them from their Sega counterparts. The only problem would be their placement. Since this show was created in the 90's, most of these characters didn't exist yet.

But if the comic were to include them, I could think of a few ideas that'll make them more unique/interesting:

Amy could still be a big admirer of Sonic, but not the type that's obsessed/lustful over him. Since she's friends with Tails and all the other Knothole children, their club could be centered around idolizing Sonic and fallowing his heroism by the book, to the point of imitating his every action (both the good and bad). They admire him so that they can learn to stand up for themselves and fight against anything that opresses them (from local bullies to Robotnik/Snively's forces).

For Shadow, he could have some sort of connection with Robotnik's backstory. It's already been established that the comic won't be fallowing Ben Hurst's notes to a tee, but I thought Robotnik's backstory involving time-travel and a space station sounded cool. There could be hints towards Shadow's presence abord the station through Robotnik's diary and/or flashback, but he won't make a full appearance (at least, not yet).

I'm a bit iffy with having Julie-Su (partly due to Pender's lawsuit), but the Chaotix could easily fit that role. Their first game debuted in 1995, so they wont feel that out-of-place. They could make interesting companions/allies for Knuckles. If not, you could make them a detective agency residing in Knothole Village. Their introduction story could be depicted in the classic film noir style, involving them trying to find the Knothole Freedom Fighters when they go missing. This then leads to them becoming the backup Freedom Fighter team, called into action whenever an emergency arises.

I realize that this is largely conjecture, but it's something to consider. If anything, having Tails be the sole child in Knothole makes him more unique. Start adding in more orphans his age and it begs the question why Sally and the others don't step into a familial role with them as well. Do that and it weakens the relationship Tails has with his adoptive family.

There are other characters residing in Knothole, and they don't undermine the importance of the main Freedom Fighters. And who knows? Maybe some of them are parents with children of their own. Also, Rosie was brought back though Sonic and Sally's time paradox, so she could be the caretaker for the other children.

[Uncle Ben]

Screw the lawsuit. Penders doesnt control us

[ILOVEVHS]

WE HAVE THE RIGHT, AND THAT DOUCHEBAG WILL NOT STAND IN OUR WAY!
MUHAHAHAHAHAAA!

[Robthe1st]

I only character I want to see... just one! Is:




That's all I want to see. She may not be the great freedom fighter, but she's still appearing I hope the makers of Sea3on still think about this.

[Uncle Ben]

I dont like Mina.... at least the way Flynn has written her

[LogiTeeka]

I dont like Mina.... at least the way Flynn has written her

Really? I think she's much better now than how she was back then. She barely had any personality to speak for, making her seem almost like an uninteresting fan character. But then agian, that's only me (and quite a few others).

As for her being featued in the Sea3on comic, it's a bit iffy, but it could work. You'll just have to find an interesting idea for her character. Maybe a fellow Knothole Village resident, or possibly a refugee from another community or shelter.

[Uncle Ben]

Well she turned into a bitch and got NICOLE exiled because she went to Ash about her, Not Sally, Not NICOLE herself, Ash. Plus i dont like how she's playing the "I have PTSD" card... That doesnt fly with me, especially with one of my close friends serving in the US Marines

[Robthe1st]

Well she turned into a bitch and got NICOLE exiled because she went to Ash about her, Not Sally, Not NICOLE herself, Ash. Plus i dont like how she's playing the "I have PTSD" card... That doesnt fly with me, especially with one of my close friends serving in the US Marines

Well, she was a bitch. But, later in the comics, she went to see Nicole and forgive her. Check out this link of her profile:

http://archiesonic.w...i/Mina_Mongoose

Here's more about it:

Forgiveness:

Preying off the artificially increased fear of NICOLE brought about by Mina's concert, Naugus succeeded in winning over the public and becoming king. Mina attended Geoffrey St. John's trial, where he was declared guilty of treason but immediately pardoned by the new king. Her unease towards the situation continued to grow from this as well as the loss of Princess Sally, and when public opinion eventually resulted in NICOLE's exile, Mina felt guilty; she had wanted to raise awareness concerning possible problems with NICOLE, but never intended for fear to take over the city. Eventually, despite her own concerns, she built up the courage to confront NICOLE directly. She became distressed upon seeing NICOLE's pain firsthand, and spoke of her own fears and failings, admitting that she hadn't fully understood NICOLE's situation in the path. With a lot of encouragement, Mina eventually convinced NICOLE to stop hiding from her problems, and begged for her forgiveness. She told NICOLE that she could count on her as a friend, and swore to attain her original goal of inspiring the people and set them on the right path. (StH: #232, #233, #237)
To make amends to NICOLE, she held a concert with her band with the theme of love, understanding and forgiveness and dedicated the song and the concert to NICOLE, much to the dismay of Ixis Naugus. As they were about to start, Tails Doll snuck under the stage and caused it to collapse under her and the band. Team Freedom raced onto the stage and Mina was saved from the destruction by Rotor. Ash rushed to Mina's aid after she was rescued by Rotor. She addressed the audience to thank Team Freedom for saving the day. She gave the stage collapsing as another reason why they need NICOLE and that the city has to show their support to Team Fighters, Team Freedom and NICOLE. (StH: #241)

As for her being featued in the Sea3on comic, it's a bit iffy, but it could work. You'll just have to find an interesting idea for her character. Maybe a fellow Knothole Village resident, or possibly a refugee from another community or shelter.

That could work. I think she'll be from a refugee from another community. Also, she can be herself like in the Archie Comics, but, maybe u can make her an little more encouraging. Kind of like this character from Fullmetal Alchemist: http://fma.wikia.com.../Winry_Rockbell She may not have any superpowers, but she does help some people. Maybe can Mina can be something like this kinda.

[Uncle Ben]

Still, she went to her jackass boyfriend first instead of Sally or NICOLE.

[Skylar]

Honestly, it's about time that problms within the Freedom Fighters began to pop up. Even the closest friend someimes feud, so it adds a sense of reality into a world where reality is nonexistant.
Nicole got exiled. Okay? Like in the Warriors series, Yellowfang was exiled from her original clan for a mirder she did not commit. Eventually, She was let into Thunderclan. After the truth of the crime was discovered, she was offered the chance to return to Shadowclan. Even though Yellowfang decided to stay with Thunderclan, my point is that when the FF discover the truth, they will search for Nicole, and offer her the chance to come back into the FF. By that point she would most pobabl have had such a strong bond with nature, that she could teach the FF some new things the forest has to offer, kind of like when the dinos showed the metal eating plants to the FFs. Saying that the FFs won't eventually let Nicole back in would mean that yo are calling the FF unforgiving, unwise, or flatout ignorant.

Of course, going to your boyfriend/girlfriend for help is like asking the average student in your classroom for advice on life. That wasn't a smart move.

[Robthe1st]

I know Mina did something that is stupid and disrespectable. But, Nicole forgive her and things went well. I also never like that Ash character. At least she married Tails in the future comics.

And if the creator of Sea3ON will make a debut character of Mina, let's make sure she's quite different and not be like as she done in the archie comics. Alright.

Oh! Here's a video when Mina ask Nicole for forgiveness:

[Hammer]

Back to topic, I don't see any reason for Sega characters not to appear if they already existed in the games at the time Season 2 ended and Gojira finds a way to introduce them.

Amy? Well, it didn't have to be like "she's been there all the time and we haven't noticed her" but maybe introducing her in an episode.

There are still many areas in the planet that the FF haven't explored. I remember a few concepts in Sonic Underground which talked about several villages untouched by Robotnik, where life has gone on peacefully. Why couldn't Amy appear there, and maybe move to Knothole after, you know, Robotnik destroys her village? Now the character is introduced, differently enough from the game version, and it doesn't have to be that annoying.

[ILOVEVHS]

Don't blame the characters.

Blame the morons who write them.

[Skylar]

Back to topic, I don't see any reason for Sega characters not to appear if they already existed in the games at the time Season 2 ended and Gojira finds a way to introduce them.

Amy? Well, it didn't have to be like "she's been there all the time and we haven't noticed her" but maybe introducing her in an episode.

There are still many areas in the planet that the FF haven't explored. I remember a few concepts in Sonic Underground which talked about several villages untouched by Robotnik, where life has gone on peacefully. Why couldn't Amy appear there, and maybe move to Knothole after, you know, Robotnik destroys her village? Now the character is introduced, differently enough from the game version, and it doesn't have to be that annoying.

That introduction reminds me of Noctus... though it could work. Also, SatAM talked about five tribes, though mostly only Lupe's tribe was shown. What about the other 4 tribes?

[Hammer]

That introduction reminds me of Noctus... though it could work. Also, SatAM talked about five tribes, though mostly only Lupe's tribe was shown. What about the other 4 tribes?

One of them is made by mutated pink hedgehogs. That way, we could also introduce racist and anti-racist characters. Are pink hedgehogs freaks? Did blue hedgehogs evolve from regular hedgehogs?

Or we could introduce THIS:

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