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[RedAuthar]

Naugus's master?? What about that wizard dude who appeared in one episode

If I recall, someone asked that same question in another topic before. If I recall, the person who answered pointed out that there are differences in the magic that the two use. Lazar has a powerful computer that grants spells to those who have it, while Naugus uses magic that appears to be more elemental in nature. It's not far-fetched for Lazar to be Naugus' master, but I doubt it. The two are just too different in their methods.

Well the student may not always be like the master

If Lazar doesn't have magic abilities himself and can only rely on a computer to do it for him I very much doubt he's Naugus's master.

In SatAM Naugus's backstory is highly unexplored, it is possible Lazar could be his teach. However Lazar had been in an eternal sleep thing up until Robotnik took the computer. While Naugus's age is undetermined I doubt he's old enough for Lazar to have been his teacher. Also Naugus is technically neutral in the show. He's against Robotnik but not really on the Freedom Fighters' side. Lazar was evil, however turned good after feeling guilty. It seems rather iffy for Lazar to teach Naugus because of that.

Also I'm pretty sure the Guardian Guy is Lazar's apprentice.

[DCC]

I'd say no to Amy being in. Because of Archie, I have come to the conclusion that one Sonic universe is not big enough
for two love interest.

As for the answer to the question, I would like to see Jules and Bernie.

[LaserX5]

Yeah. I just got the Archie Encyclopedia from the library, and have realized how stupid the comics are, especially between #50 and #200. They remain a guilty pleasure though.

That is true in a sense.

[Skylar]

I hear all this talk about Archie and SatAM, but what about The Archeives?

[An7imatt3r]

Hey All,

Thanks for the suggestions. What I can tell you for sure is that the Sea3on comic will be the basis for the script we write. All of us feel that this is the most true to the original SatAM in terms of plot progression and feel. However, that does not mean there will not be changes. The comic is merely a template for us to base the story off of.

In order to entertain the idea of new characters, we would also need to know what context they will exist and to what capacity they could impact the story. One of the biggest mistakes Archie made in my opinion was diluting the core cast with all of SEGA's characters. This muddled the story and for several issues at a time they could tear the focus away from the SatAM cast. We will avoid doing this at all costs.

This is not to say outright that other characters could no be added. Their roles however, must be directly related to the impact they will have the story, big or small. So I urge anyone who makes suggestions on which characters to add to give us an idea on how they would be implemented. Keep in mind that most of the Archie universe and it's characters are older than the current cast. Tails, for example is very young, which would make adding a potential love interest for him (I.E Fiona Fox), very difficult.

An additional thing to point out is that Archie has the luxury of being able to spend an entire Arch on developing one piece of the plot. Most SatAM episodes were self contained, meaning the entirety of the story that was being told was done so within the episode itself. This is another model that we will attempt to emulate, which means that we will not be able to afford several episodes to develop new characters. They should fit with in the existing context of Sea3on.

Hopefully this didn't burst anyones bubble, but in order for us to heed any feedback it must first be feasible. In order for that to happen all of you need to know what we are looking for. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[LogiTeeka]

In order to entertain the idea of new characters, we would also need to know what context they will exist and to what capacity they could impact the story. One of the biggest mistakes Archie made in my opinion was diluting the core cast with all of SEGA's characters. This muddled the story and for several issues at a time they could tear the focus away from the SatAM cast. We will avoid doing this at all costs.

This is not to say outright that other characters could no be added. Their roles however, must be directly related to the impact they will have the story, big or small. So I urge anyone who makes suggestions on which characters to add to give us an idea on how they would be implemented. Keep in mind that most of the Archie universe and it's characters are older than the current cast. Tails, for example is very young, which would make adding a potential love interest for him (I.E Fiona Fox), very difficult.

I still think Amy will make an interesting addition to the cast. But since this is the SatAM universe, in which characters aren't like their current depiction, her overall character will have to be altered quite a bit. Like have her be a bossy, stubborn girl (about Tails' age) that has great difficulty showing weakness, but is easily prone to jealousy and emotional fits of rage. Her lessons could revolve around her not jumping to conclusions, especially in judgment of others.

Here's my idea for a introduction story. Maybe Tails gets tired of being left behind during missions and decides to become a full-fledged Freedom Fighter on his own. So at night, he, along with other children living in Knothole (Amy included), get together and form a secret club sworn to defend the Great Forest from any threat while the Freedom Fighters are out during missions (sorta like The Lost Boys meets The Goonies).

I figured this could be a good way of developing Tails' character more, as well as introducing Amy into the series without her overshadowing anyone else. This could also introduce newer characters to the mix, like the always-mentioned but unseen children residing in Knothole. We never saw them in the series (except for Tails), so what's stopping them from making an appearance?

[An7imatt3r]

In order to entertain the idea of new characters, we would also need to know what context they will exist and to what capacity they could impact the story. One of the biggest mistakes Archie made in my opinion was diluting the core cast with all of SEGA's characters. This muddled the story and for several issues at a time they could tear the focus away from the SatAM cast. We will avoid doing this at all costs.

This is not to say outright that other characters could no be added. Their roles however, must be directly related to the impact they will have the story, big or small. So I urge anyone who makes suggestions on which characters to add to give us an idea on how they would be implemented. Keep in mind that most of the Archie universe and it's characters are older than the current cast. Tails, for example is very young, which would make adding a potential love interest for him (I.E Fiona Fox), very difficult.

I still think Amy will make an interesting addition to the cast. But since this is the SatAM universe, in which characters aren't like their current depiction, her overall character will have to be altered quite a bit. Like have her be a bossy, stubborn girl (about Tails' age) that has great difficulty showing weakness, but is easily prone to jealousy and emotional fits of rage. Her lessons could revolve around her not jumping to conclusions, especially in judgment of others.

Here's my idea for a introduction story. Maybe Tails gets tired of being left behind during missions and decides to become a full-fledged Freedom Fighter on his own. So at night, he, along with other children living in Knothole (Amy included), get together and form a secret club sworn to defend the Great Forest from any threat while the Freedom Fighters are out during missions (sorta like The Lost Boys meets The Goonies).

I figured this could be a good way of developing Tails' character more, as well as introducing Amy into the series without her overshadowing anyone else. This could also introduce newer characters to the mix, like the always-mentioned but unseen children residing in Knothole. We never saw them in the series (except for Tails), so what's stopping them from making an appearance?

Fantastic response! This was very well thought out and much appreciated. I don't think you missed a single one of my requested points. This type of logical argument makes it much easier for the S3 staff, and or other forum members, to have discussions based around this topic.

Anyone else looking to suggest new characters, please use LogiTeeka's answer as a model.

And while I can't promise anyone anything in this department, what I can promise you is that we are listening. Well engineered arguments for why characters should appear in the show will be taken seriously. This is a community show and we want everyone to be involved.

[Captain Sorzo]

Maybe Tails gets tired of being left behind during missions and decides to become a full-fledged Freedom Fighter on his own.

Tails already became a full Freedom Fighter in Drood Henge, and he goes on missions in chapters 2 and 4 of Sea3on. His character has progressed to a point that what you're suggesting wouldn't fit anymore.

[An7imatt3r]

Maybe Tails gets tired of being left behind during missions and decides to become a full-fledged Freedom Fighter on his own.

Tails already became a full Freedom Fighter in Drood Henge, and he goes on missions in chapters 2 and 4 of Sea3on. His character has progressed to a point that what you're suggesting wouldn't fit anymore.

I think the bulk of the idea is still very valid though. There are a lot of other children in Knothole, but they are never shown. In the show, Tails is a very minor character in comparison to Sally, Sonic, and Bunny. While he is given a more dominant role in Sea3on, he is still just a child. Overall I think it is a fun side story kind of idea.

[ThePuzzledBoy]

Shadow should definitely be in Sea3on. And maybe also Amy Rose. 'Maybe get the relationships like that of FRIENDS? (I suppose; I never really saw the show. I kinda got the idea of the whole "'Maybe" blah blah blah from Smosh.)

[Uncle Ben]

am i seriously the only one that thinks there shouldnt be anyone else added to this AT ALL??? Hell they already have everyone they need for this other than the random background character they may show every once in awhile. the only two characters i would REMOTELY consider would probably be Julie-Su or Mina. but i dont think Shadow, Amy, Silver, Blaze and other SegaSonic Characters have a place in Sea3on. Thats just my opinion

[LogiTeeka]

am i seriously the only one that thinks there shouldnt be anyone else added to this AT ALL??? Hell they already have everyone they need for this other than the random background character they may show every once in awhile. the only two characters i would REMOTELY consider would probably be Julie-Su or Mina. but i dont think Shadow, Amy, Silver, Blaze and other SegaSonic Characters have a place in Sea3on. Thats just my opinion

Does Knuckles count? He's just as SegaSonic as the rest of them, and he fit into the comic just fine. The reason why they added him to the comic was because fans wanted to see him appear. It's the same reason why Knuckles appeared in "Sonic Underground". If they can add Knuckles to the comic (in a slightly altered way), I'm sure Amy could as well.

The other SegaSonic characters weren't introduced till much later, so it makes sence for them not to appear in the comic (least, not yet) since this comic is supposed to be the continuation of a 90's show. The only other SegaSonic characters I can see making appearances are the Chaotix and Nack the Weasel since they existed back during SatAM's airtime.

If Ben Hurst somehow revived the show, I'm sure he would've found some way to incorporate the Sega characters into the storyline. You just need to be creative with them, since this is a different continuity.

[Aizen90]

Amy really should NOT be in sea3on comic or animated, it's a bad idea imo, she's a terrible annoying character that's too ott for the series (there is a difference between her and Antoine), and as we've brought up before, Sonic would have no interest in her whatsoever and Sonic/Sally are supposed to be supporting each other in a post apocalyptic type world, a love triangle makes no sense for the characters/situation, and changing her personality entirely to fit her in is pointless because then it's not Amy anymore.

Knuckles is fine in this because that serious/angry part of him is still there.

[LogiTeeka]

Amy really should NOT be in sea3on comic or animated, it's a bad idea imo, she's a terrible annoying character that's too ott for the series (there is a difference between her and Antoine), and as we've brought up before, Sonic would have no interest in her whatsoever and Sonic/Sally are supposed to be supporting each other in a post apocalyptic type world, a love triangle makes no sense for the characters/situation, and changing her personality entirely to fit her in is pointless because then it's not Amy anymore.

If they can rework the goofy-looking Dr. Eggman into the terrifying Dr. Robotnik, what's to stop Amy from becoming a more likable character?

Does she even have to be in love with Sonic? No. Perhaps a fellow fan like Tails, so it won't totally betray her character.

[Uncle Ben]

But the thing is that Knuckles would of fitted for the third season. I know he's SegaSonic like the rest but unlike the others Knuckles DOES fit in this dark-toned comic/tv show.

I know Ben Hurst would of found a way but still the only one that fitted in any way was Knuckles.

Amy as a fan like Tails? Wouldnt happen. people would complain that she "isnt herself cause she isnt going after Sonic"

[LogiTeeka]

But the thing is that Knuckles would of fitted for the third season. I know he's SegaSonic like the rest but unlike the others Knuckles DOES fit in this dark-toned comic/tv show.

I know Ben Hurst would of found a way but still the only one that fitted in any way was Knuckles.

Then what about Shadow, Rouge, Blaze, Omega, and Silver? Their overall characters and backgrounds are dark and moody too, so wouldn't they fit the series?

I don't see what's wrong with having light-hearted characters in the series when you already have characters like Antoine, Dulcy, and even Sonic. Seems a bit hypercritical, don't you think?

Sure, characters like Tails, Amy, Cream, Big, and Marine wouldn't last long in the harsh Robotropois environment, but they could probably reside in Knothole Village where it's safer.

[Uncle Ben]

I guess i am being a bit hypercritical....

All i'm trying to say is that the current cast that we have now is good and unless its absolutely needed i dont think anyone else should be added

[LogiTeeka]

I wasn't suggesting Amy to be a major character. The idea I offered was mainly focused on developing Tails, Amy's role was more of a supporting character.

[Uncle Ben]

Still. Even a minor character i still dont like the idea of adding anyone unless its absolutely necessary

[Captain Sorzo]

Tails already has very strong dynamics with both Sonic (the older brother) and Sally (the adoptive mother). While said relationships have thus far been used chiefly as a means of developing those characters rather than Tails, there's no reason that they can't be used as a means of developing his character as well. Case in point, the excellent bedside exchange between Tails and Sonic at the end of chapter 2 of Sea3on.

It strikes me as more efficient to focus on existing relationships (especially ones so endearing) than to introduce an overhauled version of a controversial (and widely hated) character in order to create new ones. In addition, introducing Amy solely as a means of fleshing out Tails would leave her underdeveloped, just as Tails suffered from being underdeveloped because his role was focused on developing Sonic and Sal. Taking the time to develop Amy means that she's receiving focus that the existing SatAM cast could use.

If Tails is to be developed from entirely new angles, rather than fleshing out existing ones, why not focus on setting up dynamics with other established characters? We rarely see him interact with Antoine and Rotor, for example.

The same goes for introducing any other new character, really. Unless the plot demands it, focus is better spent elsewhere, fleshing out the cast we already have.