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[Teirusu]

I always though Mobius is really really big.

If we take some physics facts like Sonic can run FASTER than the speed of Sound 340.29 m/s

That means in around 200km / minute. Every stage have around 200km, and for example in Sonic The Hedgehog 2 have around 8 stages (deleting some like Death egg or wing fortress)

8 x 2 acts are 16 stages

Only South island is around 3200 km ( There is another fact like not all long 1 minute but its supposed that he is running without obstacles too).

Now count, South Island, Christmas Island, Angel Island, All the places of AosTH, all the places of Satam, all the places of Underground, all the places of most of the videogames, all the places of Mobius' Archie etc etc.

That crap I said doesn't mean anything at all, but at least to me give me the thought that Mobius is really big. In the big world, Robotnik can have infinite factories.

[RedAuthar]

Also Sonic doesn't necessarily run in a straight line in the games. Though it appears that way, I've always thought the zones in the old-school games we're actually not linear, it was just gameplay mechanics that forced them to be that way.

[Teirusu]

Is what I said, is not really relevant what I said, but the sense of he run extremely fast but take a lot of time cross stages or run around the map in the shows, give me the feeling that Mobius must be really really big.

[ILOVEVHS]

Also Sonic doesn't necessarily run in a straight line in the games. Though it appears that way, I've always thought the zones in the old-school games we're actually not linear, it was just gameplay mechanics that forced them to be that way.

I refer you to the SA2 version of Green Hill.

[LogiTeeka]

Now count, South Island, Christmas Island, Angel Island, All the places of AosTH, all the places of Satam, all the places of Underground, all the places of most of the videogames, all the places of Mobius' Archie etc etc.

That crap I said doesn't mean anything at all, but at least to me give me the thought that Mobius is really big. In the big world, Robotnik can have infinite factories.

Don't forget that each continuity has a different depiction of the overall world:

• In the games, Sonic is depicted living on an alternate Earth (as evidenced by the maps seen in "Shadow the Hedgehog", "Sonic Unleashed", and "Sonic the Hedgehog 4"), where he grew up on South Island.
• In the Archie comics (and originally SatAM and possibly "Underground"), Sonic grew up in Mobotropolis on the planet Mobius, which is later revealed to be a post-apocalyptic Earth after an alien invasion.
• In both the Fleetway comics and "Sonic X", Sonic grew up on South Island, but Mobius is described as a missing piece of the Earth that was thrown into another dimension after an unknown cataclysm.

I don't count AoStH as a separate entity since it hardly has any continuity to speak for. It's also revealed during the final episode that the entire series was fictional. They were just a series of stories and tall-tales told by Miss Saccharine to a bunch of children; which would explain the surreal setting and Robotnik's goofy depiction.

[ILOVEVHS]

I think that was just supposed to be just that one episode.

[RedAuthar]

Also Sonic doesn't necessarily run in a straight line in the games. Though it appears that way, I've always thought the zones in the old-school games we're actually not linear, it was just gameplay mechanics that forced them to be that way.

I refer you to the SA2 version of Green Hill.

Never unlocked enough Medals...emblems....whatever they're called to play it.

[Uncle Ben]

I did. It was worth it

[RedAuthar]

I hear it is.

[Teirusu]

Now count, South Island, Christmas Island, Angel Island, All the places of AosTH, all the places of Satam, all the places of Underground, all the places of most of the videogames, all the places of Mobius' Archie etc etc.

That crap I said doesn't mean anything at all, but at least to me give me the thought that Mobius is really big. In the big world, Robotnik can have infinite factories.

Don't forget that each continuity has a different depiction of the overall world:

• In the games, Sonic is depicted living on an alternate Earth (as evidenced by the maps seen in "Shadow the Hedgehog", "Sonic Unleashed", and "Sonic the Hedgehog 4"), where he grew up on South Island.
• In the Archie comics (and originally SatAM and possibly "Underground"), Sonic grew up in Mobotropolis on the planet Mobius, which is later revealed to be a post-apocalyptic Earth after an alien invasion.
• In both the Fleetway comics and "Sonic X", Sonic grew up on South Island, but Mobius is described as a missing piece of the Earth that was thrown into another dimension after an unknown cataclysm.

I don't count AoStH as a separate entity since it hardly has any continuity to speak for. It's also revealed during the final episode that the entire series was fictional. They were just a series of stories and tall-tales told by Miss Saccharine to a bunch of children; which would explain the surreal setting and Robotnik's goofy depiction.

Yes, of course I don't forget it except about this one:


In the Archie comics (and originally SatAM and possibly "Underground"), Sonic grew up in Mobotropolis on the planet Mobius, which is later revealed to be a post-apocalyptic Earth after an alien invasion.

lol...

[MoKat]

Already controled several factories, refineries and cities...I think is the answer you are looking for.

If we take for example places like Oil ocean zone (a big resource of oil for the robots), Chemical Plant or Scap Brain Zone, Metropolis Zone, Sky fortress (factories really big) I think yes...he can get a lot. The idea of recycling broken robots is another possibility, like he did on SA 1, recycling the useless gammas, why not broken robots?

Makes sense to me.

*studies the screenshot*
Hmm...that sounds familiar. Is that text from a game manual?

[Teirusu]

Is a part of the page 119 from the book "History of Sonic The Hedgehog" This page is the nº2 of 4 pages talking about Sonic The Hedgehog 2.



I'm translating the whole book with Hammer, thats why I have the scans of the books. The book have a lot of interesting stuff, so I post part of it if I find the answer on it.

[MoKat]

Way cool ^.^

[Skylar]

Yes, I need that book... literally...
So... does that kill this thread, or what happens now?

[Velvet D'Coolette]

Skylar sir, now we search for a professional physicist to answer our question. Only problem is, I don't think anyone here knows any. I vote we go to the nearest avaiable college and mingle like heck.

[Teirusu]

Yes, I need that book... literally...
So... does that kill this thread, or what happens now?

Not really if people still have another theories about the question of the topic.

[Skylar]

Well, live force is usually depicted as energy. That's how the robots Dr.R makes from animals are able to maintain themselves running; because the animals inside are still alive. They just can't do anything about their condition, as Charles puts it. So, if Dr.R kidnaped the world's population of animals, other than the freedom fighters and a few others, of course, he would be able to tap into practically unlimited energy. With this unlimited energy, and with the ability to access other dimensions through the Cosmic Interstate, he may have all the metal he needs imported to him by others such as Eggman Nega from other dimensions. Eggman being Eggman, he obviously can do this, and the freedom fighters don't even know it's happening. Also take into account all the space junk Dr.R put into, well, space due to failed projects such as the death egg, which is pretty much the ARK space station, last time I checked. He may be recycling this metal. Of course, the SatAM Dr.R WANTS to live in a polluted world, so he wouldn't go around being a good heart, and picking up after Sonic. Instead, he'd harness energy from the animals, as I've said, and use this energy to maintain interdimentional portals open so that the import of metal can be possible. I'm most probably rambling, but hopefully someone can see the point I'm trying to get across...

[ILOVEVHS]

How about this answer?

It's video game, so who gives a fuck?

[Uncle Ben]

Still, its something to ponder

[Skylar]

Some of the people who post here can't understand anything unless it's some sort of extremely logical explanation related with physics and all the principles of quantum science, all intergrated into a fictional world. That response is whimpy in the eyes of some. At least try to give a reasonable, logical response. If you can't think of one, think of this: what if Dr.R were real?