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[furrykef]

Why did I have to become a Sonic fan just when they were fucking up the comic?

You became a Sonic fan around issue #47?

[ILOVEVHS]

I started getting interest in Sonic when they released the FCBD issue in 2011.

[Robthe1st]

I don't want to post this again. Yeah, we all hate Ken Penders, but, there's rumors that that trial between Ken and Archie still going. And the lawsuit is not over yet. So... any rumors that the trial still going?

And if Archie did drop the ball like removing the characters made from Ken, well, it shows that Acrhie Comics what these Sonic fans to pissed Ken off and to blame him, too. Maybe.

[furrykef]

Pretty sure the settlement thing means the trial is over. But I don't know if that means negotiations are over.

[Janus]

So how many characters does Ken Penders own? I know about the majority of the Echnidas and Hershey. With the absence of his characters, it might give the original cast a chance to shine (provided that some decent time is given to each of them), but I doubt we'll get that. I guess that the main reasons that I feel bummed about this after reading everyone's arguments is due to the fact that I grew up with this comic, and I am familiar with these characters. Julie-Su, Geoffrey, etc. made the comic different from other Sonic media by the fact that they don't exist in anything else. With them gone, that old spark of originality has vanished. And it gives the impression that the comic is moving even closer to just being an adaptation of the games (which it's been doing for years now). I know it's now Flynn's fault, but I'm just bummed out. Sorry for the long post.

[Robthe1st]

Guys, listen to this, there's this blogger post this message of the new sonic #245:

"Look at it this way guys: The teaser for issue 245 specifically mentions Lien-Da and her Dark Egg Legion, as well as a no-holds barred fight between Knuckles and Thrash. I’m certain the echidnas will be back."

Also, check out this upcoming issue of #245:

http://archiesonic.w...gehog_Issue_245

Maybe Lien-Da and some of the echidnas will come back. Let's just have hope

[Captain Sorzo]

That was the original solicit, as pointed out in the very wiki page you linked. A lot of this arc has been edited due to these case developments. Julie-Su was originally on 244's cover, for example. While the echidnas might return at some point, even if it's just to give them a better send-off, this isn't evidence for it.

[Janus]

I hope they return somehow. The Echidnas are really important characters. I just can't see the comic not having their entire society in it. Or, I can, but it would be a more dismal world.

[Uncle Ben]

who knows?

[Robthe1st]

That was the original solicit, as pointed out in the very wiki page you linked. A lot of this arc has been edited due to these case developments. Julie-Su was originally on 244's cover, for example. While the echidnas might return at some point, even if it's just to give them a better send-off, this isn't evidence for it.

Yeah, I know. I think It's better if we wait for the new issue to arrived. Like I said before: "You can check them out at the book store, but don't buy them!". It did said "Lien-Da's Dark Egg Legion" anyway... we'll see... don't know if she'll show up.

Let's just see if they appear or not. If not, then Archie Comics is history.

BTW, why the hell did Ken Penders put his characters during the new issues of the Sonic Comics and then he like quit anyway? And that was duing '06 before four years he post a blog that he owns copyright of his characters? That was during in 2010! What the hell man? Trying to feel like working with Archie again just to be all greedy?! Oh well...

[Robthe1st]

I think this topic is over. Archie may take out the characters made from Ken, but like someone said: "There's still hope".

Anyway, here's a special tribute to Ken "Selfish Man" Penders...











Ken: "Who you calling Frakin' Penders?"

[ILOVEVHS]

I still say Ken would make a good test subject at Aperture.

[Mithrandir]

I'm all for taking the wait and see approach. I'm certainly no avid reader of the comics any more, but it sucks to read that a big part of my childhood might suddenly be wiped out due to legal posturing. It hurt enough when I first heard that the comics had removed the Brotherhood, but wiping out the Echidnas entirely? Harsh, and hopefully not what's on the near horizon.

It's rough because I, like many here, grew up with the comic series' vision of Knuckles as a character, and whatever one might think about Penders right now I credit him with making Knuckles and the Floating Island into three dimensional, multi-faceted aspects of the series. Sega's own "official" take on Knuckles holds essentially zero appeal to me, so I'd hate to see the comic lose all the trappings of what made Knuckles a very interesting, compelling character to me while growing up, including his relationship with Julie-Su.

It'd be nice if there could be a settlement involving allowing both sides usage of x-number of characters, but if not, well...that'd just suck, is all.

One other thing, though: I think people officially need to stop freaking out about the SatAM cast up and vanishing out of nowhere. From what I've read of the comics in recent times, it seems that Flynn has no intentions of letting them go; if he did, I highly doubt that Mecha Sally would be featured so much, and I also highly doubt he'd have included so many references to the show in a lot of his writings (e.g. Mecha Sally asking Sonic "Where were you when the brains were handed out?").

I could argue plenty about how I feel the comic's vision for those characters, and for the world they live in, is skewed and could be improved, but the characters themselves aren't likely to go anywhere barring a mandate coming down from Sega itself.

[Uncle Ben]

im the one who keeps saying theres hope.

[ILOVEVHS]

Perhaps, Ben.

Maybe someday...hope will be restored.

Maybe someday....the light...the light at the end of the tunnel...will be found.
And then...AND THEN...all will not be lost. (Breaks into tears)


(Oscar Performance)

In all seriousness, I feel that way too Ben.

[Uncle Ben]

i still say we give Penders the [Controversial Humor] Cell treatment...

[Uncle Ben]

I just made this

[ILOVEVHS]

QUICK. POST IT TO CHEEZBURGER!

[Uncle Ben]

huh??

[Prime]

QUICK. POST IT TO CHEEZBURGER!

Like people at that site will give a shit about what's happening in the comic.