Episode 5 - Season 2 - Fed Up with Antoine / Ghost Busted
Because I HATE YOU ALL.
Anyone notice the title of the first episode of this Mini Two Parter set also describes how everyone FEELS about Antoine?
I so have a Hatred for this episode...
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June 2008's Episode - Fed Up With Antoine/Ghost Busted
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 08:04 PM
Coulda been worse, Rock. You could have done "Odd Couple/Ro-Becca."
Still, this wasn't as bad as the other Antoine shorts. This is also about the only time you hear an actual hint of anger in Bunnie's voice(There's a bit of growl in her voice when she calls Ant a cotton ball). This is around the point where even Bunnie started getting pissed at Antoine, the only other time he really annoyed her before this was in Sonic Racer.
I actually don't have much a problem with Season 2 Ant, the only execption being Cry of the Wolf. I'm a Rob Paulsen fan and I just love listening to his Ant performaces. I loved Ant's lines here such as "Are you stark raving naked!?"
Ghost Busted also gave Tails one of his few times to really shine.
Still, this wasn't as bad as the other Antoine shorts. This is also about the only time you hear an actual hint of anger in Bunnie's voice(There's a bit of growl in her voice when she calls Ant a cotton ball). This is around the point where even Bunnie started getting pissed at Antoine, the only other time he really annoyed her before this was in Sonic Racer.
I actually don't have much a problem with Season 2 Ant, the only execption being Cry of the Wolf. I'm a Rob Paulsen fan and I just love listening to his Ant performaces. I loved Ant's lines here such as "Are you stark raving naked!?"
Ghost Busted also gave Tails one of his few times to really shine.
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:20 PM
I must be strange or something, because I actually liked The Odd Couple. Yeah, Robecca blew hard chunks, but I liked The Odd Couple. But back to the particular episode at hand. Yeah, I think Fed Up With Antoine was utter crap honestly. The only real good thing we got out of that episode was Ant's last name. I still liked some moments tho...
"Yo! Who's the dummy that belongs to this?"
I also happen to think The Nasty Heyenas were like the worst villains to ever appear in SatAM. They were just utter crap, complete and utter crap to the most craptastic number one can come up with. I mean come on people, how did these guys survive the coup? Also, if they eat x amount of kings a year or whatever the statistic was, then how is it they could have survived?
Now Ghost Busted is really the only part of this atrocity that can be considered salvageable. The only real question raised is what the hell was Antoine doing on a training mission with Sonic and Tails? I suppose he makes himself useful as a training aid, (Tails was supposed to look for him and all that.) but aside from that he seemed really out of place. The ghost stories around the campfire scene really shows the companionship between Sonic and Tails, and is another oppurtunity for Antione to show his true colors. The Foxfire plants provided with another way to show that Mobius is a very different place from Earth. And I think Tails fear of the unknown in Ghost Busted made him a very relatable character as far as one episode was concerned. They even tied in the previous episode with Antoine using his recently learned King Fu skills to apparently attack a ghost. We all see how well he's progressed in a few days or so (not at all).
All in all I would rate this 1.5 out of 5 rings.
"Yo! Who's the dummy that belongs to this?"
I also happen to think The Nasty Heyenas were like the worst villains to ever appear in SatAM. They were just utter crap, complete and utter crap to the most craptastic number one can come up with. I mean come on people, how did these guys survive the coup? Also, if they eat x amount of kings a year or whatever the statistic was, then how is it they could have survived?
Now Ghost Busted is really the only part of this atrocity that can be considered salvageable. The only real question raised is what the hell was Antoine doing on a training mission with Sonic and Tails? I suppose he makes himself useful as a training aid, (Tails was supposed to look for him and all that.) but aside from that he seemed really out of place. The ghost stories around the campfire scene really shows the companionship between Sonic and Tails, and is another oppurtunity for Antione to show his true colors. The Foxfire plants provided with another way to show that Mobius is a very different place from Earth. And I think Tails fear of the unknown in Ghost Busted made him a very relatable character as far as one episode was concerned. They even tied in the previous episode with Antoine using his recently learned King Fu skills to apparently attack a ghost. We all see how well he's progressed in a few days or so (not at all).
All in all I would rate this 1.5 out of 5 rings.
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 05:47 AM
I think the only reason they actually made this episode was to show off Rob Paulson's voice acting skills. The only reason that Antoine is a remotely enjoyable character is because of the voice actor. Even if the overall episode wasn't that good, Ant had a few good lines in it. Tails also had a good training montage to help push his story along to the scrapped third season.
The paprika scene reminded me of the margarine scene. Ant sure has an odd weakness for cooking.
I wonder what inspired the ghost image of a duck moon eating a bat?
The paprika scene reminded me of the margarine scene. Ant sure has an odd weakness for cooking.
I wonder what inspired the ghost image of a duck moon eating a bat?
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:03 AM
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I think the only reason they actually made this episode was to show off Rob Paulson's voice acting skills.
Actually, it was because Ben, Len, and Pat were forced by the network to do some light-hearted humor stories.
But back to Rob, I really wish his webmaster would get his forums back up(They've been down for ages). Rob himself does post on them from time to time, so if they ever come back up I'm going to make a brief post about Antoine.
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Posted 01 June 2008 - 07:20 PM
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Because I HATE YOU ALL.
The idea of rogue criminals loose in the Great Forest is a pretty cool, though (or at least it would have been if it hadn't appeared in a comedy episode). Think about the kind of people they must have become in the decade since the coup.
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Posted 02 June 2008 - 04:23 AM
These were the better of the Antione based episodes. I thought the scene with Bunnie teaching Antione marshal arts was kind of funny. I can imagine Sonic in his hut, trying to chill after a long day in the fleld, when suddenly a dummy of Robotnik comes flying though the window. As for "Ghost Busted" was good to see some interaction between Sonic and Tails, and some of Tails' training.
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Posted 02 June 2008 - 08:53 AM
I loathe ALL the Antoine shorts, but these are the two I loathe the least. Beyond that? Not much to say; frick, they're Antoine shorts, what is there TO say?
"These hands of ours are BURNING RED! Their loud cry tells us..."
"To grasp happiness!"
"ERUPTING GOD FINGER!!! SEKI..."
"HA!"
"LOVE LOVE TENKYOKEN!!!"
-Domon Kasshu and Rain Mikamura, G-Gundam
"To grasp happiness!"
"ERUPTING GOD FINGER!!! SEKI..."
"HA!"
"LOVE LOVE TENKYOKEN!!!"
-Domon Kasshu and Rain Mikamura, G-Gundam
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:39 PM
I dunno...I was actually intrigued by what the Freedom Fighters would be up to when not trying to depose ol' Buttnik...seeing what truly made them tick, I guess.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 08:11 PM
Fed up with Antoine is the only one I can sit down and watch, the others ones just give me a severe headache
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Right,
(Cracks knuckles) it's good to be back with my first long post.
Before starting I must say I think this is an excellent new feature to the forum that allows for more focused SatAM discussion, hats off to however came up with the idea.
So to begin with I just want to talk about 'Fed Up with Antoine' (FUWA) and then post on Ghost Busted later on.
One of the great things about the DVD is that you can actually watch episodes quickly before having to comment on them. I remember back before even the first crappy DVD when I had to desperately rely on my faded memories from my childhood when talking about episodes, I would often get things wrong!
As far as this ranks, obviously when compared to the other, standard, SatAM episodes, even somewhat lame ones like Warp Sonic it it absolutely dire. I mean, I actually remember episodes of AoStH that were better to watch than this... OK maybe that was going too far, at least it has the characters and setting we love, but then again I would rather watch ANY episode of AoStH than the likes of Robecca!
Getting back on course then, in my personal opinion it is the best of the Antoine shorts but only in a very strange way. Both Ghost Busted and even The Odd Couple actually work better as stories, with them being far more consistent but FUWA has potential, a potential that none of the others had with in introduction of the Nasty Hyenas, more on them later though.
So the episode begins with Ant acting like the usual incompetent moron and then, we find out he is actually the incredible hulk?!
How the bloody hell did Any penetrate a SwatBot by tossing a rock backwards????? What does Robotnik make them out of... bloody tin foil?!
Anyway before I go further I feel I should comment, it being an Ant episode and all, that I personally did not like his redesign for season 2. It's just a matter of personal taste but I think he looks too cartoony with his redesign while he looked more realistic and animal like (as realistic as a 4-foot tall fox wearing cloths can be!)
Again other stupid side point, the Swatbots throughout the show had may different designs in how their guns fired, this one used the barrel above the wrist rather than the finger and I've always liked that better as I thought the finger blaster looked kind of silly.
Now, here is my dirty mind coming to the fore, after Sonic rescues him (why?) he and Ant have a little chat and if you suspend common sense and pick and chose some of Ant's words it kind of sounds like he's talking dirty to Sonic!
First Ant makes reference to a 'massacre' and then 'blowing'.... well is anyone really surprised? Ant always did come across somewhat effeminate, maybe that's why Sonic always made him so mad, Sonic got him all hot and bothered and he acted out to hide his true feelings, including pretending to be in love with Sally to throw anyone off the trail?
I mean he does cover Sonic in kisses and rubs his cheek up against him!
Year right.
Moving on then, we have tails in training and bunny being as cute as ever. You pause the DVD, you wonder, can't it stay like this for a while, maybe for ever, does Ant have to come back, maybe if wish hard enough when I unpause the DVD Ant won't show up and we'll get an episode all about Tails Bunny and Sonic?
No such bloody luck!
Like a fart you had let off on the other side of the room and thought had gone, Ant drifts over, causing sickness and gagging.
However all is not lost because for the first (and possibly only) time this 'comedy' and I use the term as loosely as possible, episode actually gives you a bit of chuckle, but not from Ant, oh no he's about as funny as watching a documentary on the Holocaust, no it's dear sweet Bunny that made me chuckle with her dry tone and sarcastic comment.
"Right sugar, one lesson should defiantly do it."
After the training scene, that is about as entertaining as shoving your eyes into a bowl of glass splinters Ant gets the first and what I believe is hisonly funny line in the whole episode,
"...a legend in his own mind."
Not bad, not bad.
Skipping to the Nasty Hyenas showing up I'd like to spend a Little bit of time on them. As already stated I believed that they showed great potential.
Now I am awear that Widefire had already stated his disgust at them and while I do disagree I can see where he is coming from. To explain, the way they came across in the episode was bad, the whole eating the king thing was totally ridiculous and made no sense as has already been gone into.
However I completely disagree with Wildfire comment,
How? Have you ever seen Mad Max 2? I think it was no mere coincidence that some of them had Australian sounding acencents. We know from the show that there are large desert like areas on Mobius, the Great Unknown, I think it highly believable that they could have scavenged out of Robotniks range and lets face it, his had a fairly concentrated and centralised regime in Robotropolis with little piratical direct control beyond the city.
Had the episode been a normal one rather than an Ant comedy one, the Nasty Hyena's could have been developed as realistic, dangerous villains, I mean, look at them guys, really look at them, with their bad arse hover bikes and leather, can you see what I'm getting at?!
In fact Prime himself has written some fan fiction to that very effect!
There is little left to say, it had potential but it was a failure before it started, the thing with the pepper is kind of amusing, but it does not hold a patch on the Spy Hog stuff with Snively.
Lastly, I think the less said about using sunlight to boil water the better!
Overall then, the episode get the Dominic rating of 2/5
(Cracks knuckles) it's good to be back with my first long post.
Before starting I must say I think this is an excellent new feature to the forum that allows for more focused SatAM discussion, hats off to however came up with the idea.
So to begin with I just want to talk about 'Fed Up with Antoine' (FUWA) and then post on Ghost Busted later on.
One of the great things about the DVD is that you can actually watch episodes quickly before having to comment on them. I remember back before even the first crappy DVD when I had to desperately rely on my faded memories from my childhood when talking about episodes, I would often get things wrong!
As far as this ranks, obviously when compared to the other, standard, SatAM episodes, even somewhat lame ones like Warp Sonic it it absolutely dire. I mean, I actually remember episodes of AoStH that were better to watch than this... OK maybe that was going too far, at least it has the characters and setting we love, but then again I would rather watch ANY episode of AoStH than the likes of Robecca!
Getting back on course then, in my personal opinion it is the best of the Antoine shorts but only in a very strange way. Both Ghost Busted and even The Odd Couple actually work better as stories, with them being far more consistent but FUWA has potential, a potential that none of the others had with in introduction of the Nasty Hyenas, more on them later though.
So the episode begins with Ant acting like the usual incompetent moron and then, we find out he is actually the incredible hulk?!
How the bloody hell did Any penetrate a SwatBot by tossing a rock backwards????? What does Robotnik make them out of... bloody tin foil?!
Anyway before I go further I feel I should comment, it being an Ant episode and all, that I personally did not like his redesign for season 2. It's just a matter of personal taste but I think he looks too cartoony with his redesign while he looked more realistic and animal like (as realistic as a 4-foot tall fox wearing cloths can be!)
Again other stupid side point, the Swatbots throughout the show had may different designs in how their guns fired, this one used the barrel above the wrist rather than the finger and I've always liked that better as I thought the finger blaster looked kind of silly.
Now, here is my dirty mind coming to the fore, after Sonic rescues him (why?) he and Ant have a little chat and if you suspend common sense and pick and chose some of Ant's words it kind of sounds like he's talking dirty to Sonic!
First Ant makes reference to a 'massacre' and then 'blowing'.... well is anyone really surprised? Ant always did come across somewhat effeminate, maybe that's why Sonic always made him so mad, Sonic got him all hot and bothered and he acted out to hide his true feelings, including pretending to be in love with Sally to throw anyone off the trail?
I mean he does cover Sonic in kisses and rubs his cheek up against him!
Year right.
Moving on then, we have tails in training and bunny being as cute as ever. You pause the DVD, you wonder, can't it stay like this for a while, maybe for ever, does Ant have to come back, maybe if wish hard enough when I unpause the DVD Ant won't show up and we'll get an episode all about Tails Bunny and Sonic?
No such bloody luck!
Like a fart you had let off on the other side of the room and thought had gone, Ant drifts over, causing sickness and gagging.
However all is not lost because for the first (and possibly only) time this 'comedy' and I use the term as loosely as possible, episode actually gives you a bit of chuckle, but not from Ant, oh no he's about as funny as watching a documentary on the Holocaust, no it's dear sweet Bunny that made me chuckle with her dry tone and sarcastic comment.
"Right sugar, one lesson should defiantly do it."
After the training scene, that is about as entertaining as shoving your eyes into a bowl of glass splinters Ant gets the first and what I believe is hisonly funny line in the whole episode,
"...a legend in his own mind."
Not bad, not bad.
Skipping to the Nasty Hyenas showing up I'd like to spend a Little bit of time on them. As already stated I believed that they showed great potential.
Now I am awear that Widefire had already stated his disgust at them and while I do disagree I can see where he is coming from. To explain, the way they came across in the episode was bad, the whole eating the king thing was totally ridiculous and made no sense as has already been gone into.
However I completely disagree with Wildfire comment,
QUOTE ("wildfire86_2001":1lj4parj)
I mean come on people, how did these guys survive the coup?
How? Have you ever seen Mad Max 2? I think it was no mere coincidence that some of them had Australian sounding acencents. We know from the show that there are large desert like areas on Mobius, the Great Unknown, I think it highly believable that they could have scavenged out of Robotniks range and lets face it, his had a fairly concentrated and centralised regime in Robotropolis with little piratical direct control beyond the city.
Had the episode been a normal one rather than an Ant comedy one, the Nasty Hyena's could have been developed as realistic, dangerous villains, I mean, look at them guys, really look at them, with their bad arse hover bikes and leather, can you see what I'm getting at?!
In fact Prime himself has written some fan fiction to that very effect!
There is little left to say, it had potential but it was a failure before it started, the thing with the pepper is kind of amusing, but it does not hold a patch on the Spy Hog stuff with Snively.
Lastly, I think the less said about using sunlight to boil water the better!
Overall then, the episode get the Dominic rating of 2/5
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Posted 21 June 2008 - 10:12 PM
QUOTE ("J.E.Smith":adcgui1o)
Coulda been worse, Rock. You could have done "Odd Couple/Ro-Becca."
Still, this wasn't as bad as the other Antoine shorts. This is also about the only time you hear an actual hint of anger in Bunnie's voice(There's a bit of growl in her voice when she calls Ant a cotton ball). This is around the point where even Bunnie started getting pissed at Antoine, the only other time he really annoyed her before this was in Sonic Racer.
I actually don't have much a problem with Season 2 Ant, the only execption being Cry of the Wolf. I'm a Rob Paulsen fan and I just love listening to his Ant performaces. I loved Ant's lines here such as "Are you stark raving naked!?"
Ghost Busted also gave Tails one of his few times to really shine.
Exactly what I would have said... so it saves me saying it!Still, this wasn't as bad as the other Antoine shorts. This is also about the only time you hear an actual hint of anger in Bunnie's voice(There's a bit of growl in her voice when she calls Ant a cotton ball). This is around the point where even Bunnie started getting pissed at Antoine, the only other time he really annoyed her before this was in Sonic Racer.
I actually don't have much a problem with Season 2 Ant, the only execption being Cry of the Wolf. I'm a Rob Paulsen fan and I just love listening to his Ant performaces. I loved Ant's lines here such as "Are you stark raving naked!?"
Ghost Busted also gave Tails one of his few times to really shine.
Really enjoyed hearing Bunnie annoyed at Antoine, yes!
Antoine's obsession with perfect cooking is one of his few qualities that to me make him in any way entertaining. I enjoyed his reaction to the hyenas dropping pepper into the cauldron, and that it was enough to break his fear.
"No, no, no, no. I am not too good enough to be a king! I am a humble peasa- [breaks fear] What are you doing you fuel? Hmmm... THESE ARE PEPPER! Are you stark raving naked?!!? You cannot spice a finest meal like myself with [utter disgust in voice] ordinary pepper!"
And the outrage was sufficient for him to actually perform a foot-first blow to one of the hyenas.
Sonic: "Cool move Ant!"
Antoine: "They were going to use pepper, and not paprika!"
The Freedom Fighters should have taken advantage of this weakness.
Sonic: "You know, Ant..."
Antoine: "Yes Sonic, can you not see that I am busy with ze grooming of my beautiful self?"
Sonic: "After I rescued you from Snivelly I'm sure that he would have finished cooking those snails?"
Antoine: "You say what?"
Sonic: "I'll bet he's serving them to Robuttnik right now... with lots of margarine."
Antoine: "Margarine? MARGARINE!! No! This is not to be happening!! Ah... but if Robotnik wants to be poisoning himself then I say pheh! So much the better!"
Sonic: "Then he'll never eat escargo again, because he'll think that Snivelly's cooking is the way it's supposed to be done. Robuttnik only knows how to build factories that spew crud into the air, he'll probably think that Snivelly's cooking is A-OK!"
Five minutes later there is a disruption in Robotnik's headquarters as a furious coyote bursts into the room.
Antoine: "Robotnik you master crimyoonull! You have brought shame to the good name of French cooking! Oh how I weep for those poor snails in margarine..."
Robotnik: (calm) "Snivelly, what is this?"
Antoine: "I am telling you both two fuels that it is murder to subswitchoot margarine for butter when cooking es-car-go!!" (Jumps on Robotnik's chest) "You stupid! You uneducate-tedid swines!" (Slaps Robtonic back and forth)
Robotnik: (Stands up and lifts Antoine by the scruff of the neck) "Sinvelly?"
Snivelly: "(Gulp) Y-yes, sir?"
Robotnik: "Why didn't you tell me sooner that your cooking could be improved upon? Come! We must do something about this immediately..."
One hour later in Robotnik's dining room, Robotnik is seated for dinner and a roboticized coyote walks in with a serving tray.
Robot Antoine: "Your... escargo... Master... Robotnik."
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 09:12 PM
Ok, this actually gave me enough of a laugh that I had to say something. Great post Sebastian, I gotta love the quoting.
Also, yeah Dom, i'll give ya that my commenting on the Nasty Hyenas was a little sparse, and I suppose it's plausible that they could have scrounged an existence out somewhere in the Great Unknown. But then that begs the question, what were they doing out in the Great Forest somewhere to come across Antoine? Also, it seemed to me that they already had a camp of some sort set up where Ant had his fictional kingdom. But I think I can agree that, given a little more time, the Nasty Hyenas could have been a viable second/third banana to Robotnik or Nagus. Also, no I haven't seen Mad Max 2, but I imagine it was a good movie.
I look forward to your commentary on Ghost Busted, as its the episode I prefer in the set.
Also, yeah Dom, i'll give ya that my commenting on the Nasty Hyenas was a little sparse, and I suppose it's plausible that they could have scrounged an existence out somewhere in the Great Unknown. But then that begs the question, what were they doing out in the Great Forest somewhere to come across Antoine? Also, it seemed to me that they already had a camp of some sort set up where Ant had his fictional kingdom. But I think I can agree that, given a little more time, the Nasty Hyenas could have been a viable second/third banana to Robotnik or Nagus. Also, no I haven't seen Mad Max 2, but I imagine it was a good movie.
I look forward to your commentary on Ghost Busted, as its the episode I prefer in the set.
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Ghostbusted I found less to enjoy, despite this probably being THE story that featured Tails first and foremost. It was your average Scooby-do style mystery with a rather obvious outcome. When Atnione went missing you knew immediately he was the "ghost."
There were also quite a few non-sequiturs, like for example what was the significance of the duck spirit? How did that fit in with the story, and why did it reappear later in the story when Tails was concerned about Sonic? Also, Antoine mentions he saw a ghost right at the beginning of the story, but it's broad daylight?! What did Tails find so alarming about the smell in the cave?
Then right at the end Tails finds a medalion which he presumes was left behind by the Ghost. I would have expected Sonic to dismiss it as a bottle cap or something, but then Sonic (who isn't afraid of anything) suddenly gets terrified himself and runs. What on Earth happened there?
What I DID find entertaining:
Antoine's four-poster (or two poster to be exact) bed for camping. Almost as funny as his regal pyjamas.
"I was not born tomorrow!" (He'd need to be a time traveller otherwise)
"Why do you not watch where I am going?" (Reminds me of a girl in school who bumped into me when I was leaning against a wall and she told me to look where I was going).
Antoine: "Mercy becoup, sonic!"
Sonic: "Ah mercy bucket to you too Antoine!'
The creepy scenes with the evil duck moon and the headless highwayman were well done I'd say. Not what I'd want to remember if I wake up in the middle of the night.
Other point of note:
Very interesting that for a few seconds Tails hid himself in longgrass - that's what kangaroo joeys are trained to do by their mothers when there's a preditor attack. Maybe there's some kangaroo way back in Tail's family?
There were also quite a few non-sequiturs, like for example what was the significance of the duck spirit? How did that fit in with the story, and why did it reappear later in the story when Tails was concerned about Sonic? Also, Antoine mentions he saw a ghost right at the beginning of the story, but it's broad daylight?! What did Tails find so alarming about the smell in the cave?
Then right at the end Tails finds a medalion which he presumes was left behind by the Ghost. I would have expected Sonic to dismiss it as a bottle cap or something, but then Sonic (who isn't afraid of anything) suddenly gets terrified himself and runs. What on Earth happened there?
What I DID find entertaining:
Antoine's four-poster (or two poster to be exact) bed for camping. Almost as funny as his regal pyjamas.
"I was not born tomorrow!" (He'd need to be a time traveller otherwise)
"Why do you not watch where I am going?" (Reminds me of a girl in school who bumped into me when I was leaning against a wall and she told me to look where I was going).
Antoine: "Mercy becoup, sonic!"
Sonic: "Ah mercy bucket to you too Antoine!'
The creepy scenes with the evil duck moon and the headless highwayman were well done I'd say. Not what I'd want to remember if I wake up in the middle of the night.
Other point of note:
Very interesting that for a few seconds Tails hid himself in longgrass - that's what kangaroo joeys are trained to do by their mothers when there's a preditor attack. Maybe there's some kangaroo way back in Tail's family?
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I look forward to your commentary on Ghost Busted, as its the episode I prefer in the set.
Thanks Wildfire, it's nice to know that somebody actually reads my posts!
So without further delay I present, 'Ghost Busted.' So having already commented in my previous post, I felt that this Ant short was more consistent overall and works better as a story, however juvenile that story might be.
So we begin with some Tails and Sonic action...NO NO NO! Not 'that' kind of Tails and Sonic action! I mean they're training together and yeah as has already been commented the training stuff between them is kind of cool. Then Ant shows up...
But perhaps we're in luck? We see Ant falling down off the cliff edge, maybe they decided to kill him off in the first couple of minutes? Again no such luck but at least we can dream.
The three the head out on the camping trip/training mission and we get a few ghost stories, now it is just after this that we come across one of Ants more annoying moments, if 'more annoying' is even possible for Ant, when he screams at the end of the story it makes no sense. If you listen to the dialogue there is no shocking twist at the end no;
Sonic: Then the operator shouted down the line, "we've traced the call and it's coming from inside the house, get out of there now!!"
Nothing like that, no twist but Ant just screams randomly, fucking idiot!
So Tails has his nightmare and again I must agree with comments already made, the nightmare is somewhat atmospheric, especially the headless gopher on the hill. From then on we have the completely pointless run around stuff that gets very old very quickly. I was struck by the music, as a cartoon SatAM reused certain theme music for suspense and action, the thing was, in hearing those same music scores, which I must stress I do love to death, in such a pathetic context annoyed the hell out of me because I had heard that music when the characters where in REAL danger.
At the very lest though Tails is a pleasing character to watch, just imagine how much worse the episode could have been if instead of Tails you have to watch Antoine running around scared. So I think this can be ranked as one of the better Antoine shorts precisely because Antione had comparatively little screen time.
So we then finish on the most obvious twist since the 'revel' that Padmay was the Queen in 'The Phantom Menace' with the ghost being Ant. What can you say, it's just stupid any annoying, the Ant shorts are an offence to SatAM, their presence demeans the rest of the show and almost makes you feel guilty for watching a children's cartoon, the horror.
As for the final end with Ant falling over because of the weight of the equipment, I wonder if when they wrote it they knew that deep down that just wasn't funny at all, we had the whole medallion thing.
Now while I can't speak for everyone and would never attempt to, I personally have always liked the more SF orientation of SatAM with magic kept to a minimum and even then the magic itself often raising questions about whether it is some kind of advanced science that we simply can't understand, to quote the great SF writer Arther C Clark,
"Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Then there is also Lazar's 'computer' of magic spells, a complete contradiction, for example in 'Super Sonic.' Therefore the presence of an actual ghost at the end, well it really spat in the face of what I believe SatAM is. As for Sinic's reaction, again I agree it was completely out of character but then they were only concerned with making a children's comedy.
Overall then, taking everything into account I have to give it 2 out of 5.
EDIT
Before fully moving on I just wanted to make a couple more quick points, firstly I felt that Tails saying,
"Jelly and jam time," was an extremely nice touch, for those non-fanatics let me explain. During both the original 'Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog' and SatAM Sonic had a catchphrase,
"Juice and jam time," that he would say on occasion before speeding off. Now in the case of this particular episode Tails, being very young, misquotes Sonic by mistake. For me this showed a particular attention to the fans, giving them an in-joke that was completely against the grain of the episode itself, everyone agreeing that it was a pile of shit.
I'm not saying that this makes up for the utter crapness of the episode, I'm just saying every cloud has silver lining.
The second point I'd like to make relates to Antoine and how, if one cares to pay attention, this episode shows him in perhaps a worse light than any other. Now we have to ask ourselves the question, why does Ant suck harder that a Vietnamese prostitute?
Practically everyone, I think, would answer in one of 3 ways or a combination of them,
1. He's annoying as hell
2. He's immature and feels more like a children's cartoon character than any other in the show
3. He's a weak, selfish and spineless coward
However while I believe the above to be true on all counts 'Ghost Busted' shows off another negative quality of Ant, a complete and total lack of empathy and compassion. Now I'm sure some of you are already thinking, wait a minute hold on there, what about at the end of 'Ultra Sonic' where he made an attempt to assure Sonic? Well I'll get to that in a minute but for now Let me talk about what happens in 'Ghost Busted.'
As FUSers may well remember, near the middle of the episode Tails has a scary nightmare and wakes up a little freaked out and screaming. What is the reaction of a certain blue hedgehog? Like any caring older figure, Sonic reassures him and gently places his hand on him to help calm him down, his voice and body language showing real concern for Tails well being.
Let us now skip forward towards the end of the episode when Antoine, who Tails believe to be a ghost, approaches him. Quite clearly the young boy is terrified, not to say traumatised by the experience and is really, really upset and what does our mighty Ant do in this situation...insult him! Yes my fellow FUSers, Ant shows the same kind of commitment and annoyance for a frighted young child that would make Robotnik smile, of course I won't go too far, both Robotnik and Snively demonstrated clearly sadistic tendencies which Ant does not, taking no pleasure in the boys suffering, but still at the very least you have to categorise his behaviour as sycophantic, the lacking of any emphy. Therefore going back to 'Ultra Sonic,' given that Sally was present at the time, I think his behaviour then were something of an act.
Anyway the point is, we now have another reason to hate Antoine!
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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:55 PM
One of my least favorite episodes but not too bad. Who knew the makers of Dic accidently put a gay character on the episode "Fed Up with Antoine" and it was the one nasty Hyena with the blue collar, goggles and single piercing on the right.
What was DiC thinkin' putting that on a saturday morning cartoon?
What was DiC thinkin' putting that on a saturday morning cartoon?
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:08 PM
I'm still wondering who carried Antoine's four-post bed into a forest.
I figured I had paid my debt to society
By paying my overdue fines
At the Multnoma County Library
By paying my overdue fines
At the Multnoma County Library
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 12:55 PM
As much as I liked to watch Antoine in the 1st Season, this is what really killed his potential in the 2nd Season. I happen to think I'm one of the few who thought that Antoine was handled better in the early Archie comics, because he revealed that he was more than just a fancy pants. I could relate to him in the 1st Season because it looked like he was trying to contribute, but couldn't do it so easily like the rest of the Freedom Fighters did. You could feel when he got mad, when he got sad, and when it felt like he accomplished something. In the 2nd Season he just comes across as a big jerk, and the Freedom Fighter crew doesn't want to do much with him because of his rocky relationship with them. Especially in Fed up with Antoine. Not only wasted potential, but also the fault of removing two timeslots that could of been used to advance the storyline in Season 2, rather than just giving them to Antoine.
I thereby rate Fed Up With Antoine a 1 out of 5, and Ghost Busted a 2 out of 5. But don't get me started on Ro-becca.
I thereby rate Fed Up With Antoine a 1 out of 5, and Ghost Busted a 2 out of 5. But don't get me started on Ro-becca.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:49 AM
Lets turn a disadvantage into an advantage. A.k.a. Weakness become strength.
These actually aren't too badly written. I think we percieve them as bad because it involves Antoine and are short.
Fed Up with Antoine actually lets us see some more 'rouge' element like that Hyena group. It also shows one of Antoine's rare brave moments. And to help out with the profile page for the episode. The Nasty Hyena's personality under profile is adventurous and sarcastic.
Strength: In numbers, they also have access to clothing and motorbikes somehow.
Weakness: No match for Sonic's super speed, the FF's, Robotnik, and a brave Antoine.
Quote: 'How dare you use pepper. You have to use Papyrica.' Although Antoine says it, it best expemlifies the NH style.
Ghostbusted actually makes you feel for Tails who has to fend for himself. This basic idea is pretty good and should not be underestimated by the fan base imo. And I always imagined Rotor could add hover parts to a bed to make it float easily. Since Rotor has experience with rocketry. Maybe Bunnie helped Antoine make it inflatable?
I would give Fed Up with Antoine a 6/10 and Ghost Busted a 7/10. I'm pretty sure with more time they could have been drawn out longer to add to the danger, but it's not like they must always fight against Robotnik.
These actually aren't too badly written. I think we percieve them as bad because it involves Antoine and are short.
Fed Up with Antoine actually lets us see some more 'rouge' element like that Hyena group. It also shows one of Antoine's rare brave moments. And to help out with the profile page for the episode. The Nasty Hyena's personality under profile is adventurous and sarcastic.
Strength: In numbers, they also have access to clothing and motorbikes somehow.
Weakness: No match for Sonic's super speed, the FF's, Robotnik, and a brave Antoine.
Quote: 'How dare you use pepper. You have to use Papyrica.' Although Antoine says it, it best expemlifies the NH style.
Ghostbusted actually makes you feel for Tails who has to fend for himself. This basic idea is pretty good and should not be underestimated by the fan base imo. And I always imagined Rotor could add hover parts to a bed to make it float easily. Since Rotor has experience with rocketry. Maybe Bunnie helped Antoine make it inflatable?
I would give Fed Up with Antoine a 6/10 and Ghost Busted a 7/10. I'm pretty sure with more time they could have been drawn out longer to add to the danger, but it's not like they must always fight against Robotnik.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 11:02 AM
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