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While I was browsing Youtube, I stumble across a video title called The Worst of Archie Sonic. At first glance, I thought it was a troll, but when I watched it I thought it was hilarious. So I thought of showing it to you guys and see what you think. I have to warn you, the reviewer can sound like a nerd and say negative things about the issues he's reviewing.
Here's a video of it:

[Uncle Ben]

The early issues werent the greatest

[ILOVEVHS]

Funny. This guy should be on TGWTG.

[Gremlin 24]

hm, his equipment looks professional, which is not what can be said for even the most talented of youtubers (COUGH*MrTARDISreviews*COUGH) and also him stroking his left arm suggestively is a dead giveaway that he is reading from a word document, nonetheless i found it entertaining, i hope he does more issues.

but i thought this was a forum for discussing bad archie sonic issues at first so... ... ...i don't really like issue 134 that much. the artwork destroys whatever semblance of seriousness the break-up is supposed to convey. if Sonic's best looking appearance was in the Sonic 2006 intro cutscene (and Sonic Unleasheds Intro cutscene too), his worst was in this issue. and Sonic Retro is already discussing Mobius: 25 Years Later so that fills the cavity for bad storytelling.

[LogiTeeka]

Funny. This guy should be on TGWTG.

Seeing how the site is declining in popularity and is no longer as good as it used to be, he'd fit in perfectly.

Seriously though, I know the kid has the right to state his opinion, but he takes it a bit too far. His constant nitpicking and over analysis gets on my nerves easily. Once you start nitpicking everything, you soon wind up hating everything and there's nothing left to enjoy, even in the things you once loved.

I know it's natural for us to hate things (it's human nature), but why go overboard? I mean, he clearly hates the entire comic series, so why does he keep on reading them? Since he's still reviewing them, there must be something he likes if he continues complaining about it. But since he doesn't have anything nice to say, is he just reading them to fuel his anger and torture himself? If you dislike something, just ignore it and move on.

[RedAuthar]

I have to agree with LogiTeeka here. Reviewers aren't supposed to hate, their supposed to review.

He's funny, though.

[Uncle Ben]

Shouldda told IGN that when they reviewed Sonic Unleashed.

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Funny. This guy should be on TGWTG.

Seeing how the site is declining in popularity and is no longer as good as it used to be, he'd fit in perfectly.

Seriously though, I know the kid has the right to state his opinion, but he takes it a bit too far. His constant nitpicking and over analysis gets on my nerves easily. Once you start nitpicking everything, you soon wind up hating everything and there's nothing left to enjoy, even in the things you once loved.

I know it's natural for us to hate things (it's human nature), but why go overboard? I mean, he clearly hates the entire comic series, so why does he keep on reading them? Since he's still reviewing them, there must be something he likes if he continues complaining about it. But since he doesn't have anything nice to say, is he just reading them to fuel his anger and torture himself? If you dislike something, just ignore it and move on.

I think the only issue he liked was 230 because he thinks it's average compared to the rest of the series.

[ILOVEVHS]

TGWTG isn't that bad.

It's not as good without the Nostalgia Critic, and Demo Reel is total shit, but there are still funny videos.

CR is the funniest reviewer on the site.

[Uncle Ben]

i dont think this guy really likes the comics that much

[Prime]

Yeah a lot of the early stuff of the Sonic comic is pretty crappy because it was produced in the 90s and the 90s was a dark time for comics, a lot of crazy batshit insane stuff was happening then.

[LaserX5]

Seeing how the site is declining in popularity and is no longer as good as it used to be, he'd fit in perfectly.

Seriously though, I know the kid has the right to state his opinion, but he takes it a bit too far. His constant nitpicking and over analysis gets on my nerves easily. Once you start nitpicking everything, you soon wind up hating everything and there's nothing left to enjoy, even in the things you once loved.

I know it's natural for us to hate things (it's human nature), but why go overboard? I mean, he clearly hates the entire comic series, so why does he keep on reading them? Since he's still reviewing them, there must be something he likes if he continues complaining about it. But since he doesn't have anything nice to say, is he just reading them to fuel his anger and torture himself? If you dislike something, just ignore it and move on.

I believe he's really passionate about Sonic, which is understandable. Alot of fans are.

Also, I think he doesn't hate the comics so much but the man writing them.

I can relate with that I hate to say...

I have to agree with LogiTeeka here. Reviewers aren't supposed to hate, their supposed to review.

Indeed.

Although, I believe if a story is written poorly, or the characters act ridiculously OOC, then it needs to be called out. Writers shouldn't get away with stuff like that, ESPECIALLY professional ones.

I know no story will ever be perfect and it'll have some flaws here and there, but there's a major difference between small mistakes and gaping ones that you could drive 3 semis through.

Most of the writers of today sadly are getting very lazy nowadays unfortunately.

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Seeing how the site is declining in popularity and is no longer as good as it used to be, he'd fit in perfectly.

Seriously though, I know the kid has the right to state his opinion, but he takes it a bit too far. His constant nitpicking and over analysis gets on my nerves easily. Once you start nitpicking everything, you soon wind up hating everything and there's nothing left to enjoy, even in the things you once loved.

I know it's natural for us to hate things (it's human nature), but why go overboard? I mean, he clearly hates the entire comic series, so why does he keep on reading them? Since he's still reviewing them, there must be something he likes if he continues complaining about it. But since he doesn't have anything nice to say, is he just reading them to fuel his anger and torture himself? If you dislike something, just ignore it and move on.

I believe he's really passionate about Sonic, which is understandable. Alot of fans are.

Also, I think he doesn't hate the comics so much but the man writing them.

I can relate with that I hate to say...

I have to agree with LogiTeeka here. Reviewers aren't supposed to hate, their supposed to review.

Indeed.

Although, I believe if a story is written poorly, or the characters act ridiculously OOC, then it needs to be called out. Writers shouldn't get away with stuff like that, ESPECIALLY professional ones.

I know no story will ever be perfect and it'll have some flaws here and there, but there's a major difference between small mistakes and gaping ones that you could drive 3 semis through.

Most of the writers of today sadly are getting very lazy nowadays unfortunately.

Did you know that the reviewer of the Worst of Archie Sonic hates Sally because she's a mary-sue regardless who's writing her? Also, he's doesn't like SatAM because of Sonic being too cocky for his own good and the bickering between Sonic and Sally, and I know I missed a few.

[LogiTeeka]

I have to agree with LogiTeeka here. Reviewers aren't supposed to hate, their supposed to review.

Indeed.

Although, I believe if a story is written poorly, or the characters act ridiculously OOC, then it needs to be called out. Writers shouldn't get away with stuff like that, ESPECIALLY professional ones.

I know no story will ever be perfect and it'll have some flaws here and there, but there's a major difference between small mistakes and gaping ones that you could drive 3 semis through.

Most of the writers of today sadly are getting very lazy nowadays unfortunately.

Well, the comics are about a fast-talking blue hedgehog that can run at supersonic speeds fighting against a goofy, egg-shaped mad scientist. I think the last thing everyone's expecting from it is Shakespearean-quality writing. Heck, in terms of writing quality, I think Mario has it worse.

[LaserX5]

Did you know that the review of the Worst of Archie Sonic hates Sally because she's a mary-sue regardless who's writing her? Also, he's doesn't like SatAM because of Sonic being too cocky for his own good and the bickering between Sonic and Sally, and I know I missed a few.

Yes, I'm aware of his utter dislike for Sally. It's his right to not like her, but his reasons I admit are very poor and biased.

I agree with him though that Ian has made her very Mary-Sueish. She was alot better written in Sonic Satam.

As for Satam, he did make some good points about its flaw I have to say. Sonic unfortunately was too cocky at times when he shouldn't have been. Of course, he's 100X worse in the comic, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much.

[Well, the comics are about a fast-talking blue hedgehog that can run at supersonic speeds fighting against a goofy, egg-shaped mad scientist. I think the last thing everyone's expecting from it is Shakespearean-quality writing. Heck, in terms of writing quality, I think Mario has it worse.

I never said the writing had to be Shakespearean, but that doesn't mean you should be allowed to write just anything you want because it's a kid's comic. There should be standards and effort put into it.

Growing in the 80's and 90, Kid shows was alot better quality compared to today's, at least IMHO. Were they perfect or masterpieces? No, not in the least. But I saw more effort put into them, and that really was important to me.

That's my biggest beef with 21st Century media: How little effort is put into it fictional entertainment to make it more enjoyable for the audiences.

As for Mario, I have to disagree. Granted, the DIC cartoons were subpar at best, and the games do have some very mediocre plots, but having played Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario and Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door, those games had some really good stories in them.

Even Super Mario Galaxy's storyline wasn't too bad either.

[LogiTeeka]

Yes, I'm aware of his utter dislike for Sally. It's his right to not like her, but his reasons I admit are very poor and biased.

I agree with him though that Ian has made her very Mary-Sueish. She was alot better written in Sonic Satam.

As for Satam, he did make some good points about its flaw I have to say. Sonic unfortunately was too cocky at times when he shouldn't have been. Of course, he's 100X worse in the comic, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much.

Actually, Sally started getting "Mary-Sueish" around during the 2nd season. She was always right in every decision she made, she never made any mistakes, and was constantly in the spotlight (making Sonic more of a secondary character). Since she was Ben Hurst's favorite female character (along with Dulcy), that would explain the depiction.

Sure, Sally was more likable back then due to her more prominent personality, but she had her flaws back then too. And they all escalated from there.

Growing in the 80's and 90, Kid shows was alot better quality compared to today's, at least IMHO. Were they perfect or masterpieces? No, not in the least. But I saw more effort put into them, and that really was important to me.

That's my biggest beef with 21st Century media: How little effort is put into it fictional entertainment to make it more enjoyable for the audiences.

Really? I think most kids shows airing nowadays are better off than how they were before. Compare the original "My Little Pony", "Transformers" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" with their newer incarnations and you'll see the improvement.

As for Mario, I have to disagree. Granted, the DIC cartoons were subpar at best, and the games do have some very mediocre plots, but having played Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario and Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door, those games had some really good stories in them.

To be fair, Mario's RPGs were all made by different developers who knew how to tell deeper stories. It's like how "Sonic Chronicles" was better written than most other Sonic games because BioWare developed these sort of games before.

[ILOVEVHS]

Growing in the 80's and 90, Kid shows was alot better quality compared to today's, at least IMHO. Were they perfect or masterpieces? No, not in the least. But I saw more effort put into them, and that really was important to me.

That's my biggest beef with 21st Century media: How little effort is put into it fictional entertainment to make it more enjoyable for the audiences.

Really? I think most kids shows airing nowadays are better off than how they were before. Compare the original "My Little Pony", "Transformers" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" with their newer incarnations and you'll see the improvement.

TMNT is awesome and MLP kicks ass. The 80s Transformers is still better though.

[LaserX5]

Actually, Sally started getting "Mary-Sueish" around during the 2nd season. She was always right in every decision she made, she never made any mistakes, and was constantly in the spotlight (making Sonic more or a secondary character). Since she was Ben Hurst's favorite female character (along with Dulcy), that would explain the depiction.

Sure, Sally was more likable back then due to her more prominent personality, but she had her flaws back then too. And they all escalated from there.

Ok, no argument there. She was made too perfectly in Season 2, but to the show's credit, at least when she was in the spotlight, she contributed mostly. Not the case in the comic. Most of the time, she just stands around, acting very bland and boring.

Really? I think most kids shows airing nowadays are better off than how they were before. Compare the original "My Little Pony", "Transformers" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" with their newer incarnations and you'll see the improvement.

MLP FIM is a given, but I still liked the 80's TMNT better. Sure, it was more corny and cheesy, but I loved the theme song and the style of action.

And when I refer to better shows, I'm referring to classics like CDRR, TaleSpin, Darkwing Duck, Inspector Gadget, Rocko's Modern Life, Doug, Angry Beavers. Even Rugrats wasn't too bad either while growing up.

This might be a bit of a biased opinion, but I have yet to see even a quarter the shows today match them.

To be fair, Mario's RPGs were all made by different developers who knew how to tell deeper stories. It's like how "Sonic Chronicles" was better written than most other Sonic games because BioWare developed these sort of games before.

Super Mario RPG to its credit though was not only a good story, but a great game. I can't say the same about Chronicles.

[LogiTeeka]

Super Mario RPG to its credit though was not only a good story, but a great game. I can't say the same about Chronicles.

"Chronicles" was Sonic's first RPG, so you can expect room for improvement (if they ever continue). Nevertheless, its story was still miles better and far more interesting than "Shadow the Hedgehog", "Sonic 06", and even "Generations".

MLP FIM is a given, but I still liked the 80's TMNT better. Sure, it was more corny and cheesy, but I loved the theme song and the style of action.

And when I refer to better shows, I'm referring to classics like CDRR, TaleSpin, Darkwing Duck, Inspector Gadget, Rocko's Modern Life, Doug, Angry Beavers. Even Rugrats wasn't too bad either while growing up.

This might be a bit of a biased opinion, but I have yet to see even a quarter the shows today match them.

The reason why I like the newer revisions better is simply because of their overall quality. They feel more polished and consistent without that many hiccups.

The reasons why shows like "Duck Tales", "Tailspin", "Darkwing Duck", "Animaniacs", "Tiny Toon Adventures", "Batman: TAS" and several others are still fondly remembered today is because their overall quality is topnotch and it still appeals to today's audiences.

On the other hand, shows like "Inspector Gadget", "Doug", the "Super Mario Bros. Super Show", and the original "Transformers" and "TMNT" were praised and wildly adored back during their prime-days. But as the years passed, they slowly began to age, showing signs of their weaknesses and their cheaper quality soon became their biggest downfall. That's the reason why shows like "Rocky and Bullwinkle", "The Flintstones", "Speed Racer", and even the earliest episodes of "The Simpsons" are considered outdated by today's standards.

It's sad, but in the end, it's the stuff with quality that lasts. There will still be fans of the shows, but they'll be remembered only for nostalgic reasons and their campiness.

[Uncle Ben]

Chronicles would of been better on the console