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[Shadow]

This is the equivelent of saying Wolverine looks outdated, so we're going to give him lightsabers for claws and he'll be a teenager again.

[RedAuthar]

They did that.


Well not with the lightsaber claws.
Ultimate Wolverine.

They Also Did a Wolverine Manga where he's a Teen.

[Shadow]

[fishtheimpaler]

You may not like what he is doing, but the guy is telling a story and if that means a beloved character has gotta go through a change, then so be it.

If you have to explain to the readers why the story doesn't suck, there may be a problem with the story
You have to or want to change her model, just do it
What other writer behaves like this? Do most comic book authors behave like this? I don't read a lot of comics
Ones that aren't crazy good, at least
I still don't get why people had to be told about this shit in advance

[PuffinGrandeur]

Because they thought giving us a preview would be neat. That's not uncommon at all, nor is having to explain things to the Sonic fandom uncommon at all.

[Shadow]

It's pretty double standards when they can fuck around with the SatAM cast, but Sonic wont ever drastically change.

[fishtheimpaler]

Because they thought giving us a preview would be neat. That's not uncommon at all.

Preview is one thing, preview that blows the resolution of a major plotline is a touch different. I suppose movie trailers are increasingly blowing movie ending these days, but still.

[N]or is having to explain things to the Sonic fandom uncommon at all.

Does this same author-reader relationship exist in, say, Marvel or DC?
I'm trying to think of other authors who explain to their audiences why what they make is a good idea, and I'm coming up with George Lucas

[PuffinGrandeur]

Yeah, every company has fans that need things explained to them.

[RedAuthar]

Uh...Marvel and DC don't have to explain things, but sometimes they do.

[Shadow]

At least Sonic isn't selling his marriage to the devil so he can save his aunt dying of natural causes, and thus deprive himself of having a child.

[RedAuthar]

Hey, Sonic don't have to keep his identity a secret.

[Uncle Ben]

correct

[Prime]

But don't all comic companies do press releases whenever a "huge" and "major" storyline/change is happening in one of their comics and then they go about explaining why it is they are doing it? Like when Marvel killed off Captain America, or introduced Miles Morales as the new Spider-Man? I remember reading about these and other things Marvel and DC have been doing which have one of the creative forces behind the comic being interviewed about why they are doing it.

That's just one thing about the Internet I dislike. About 15 years ago or so, anything that was happening in a movie, or a TV series or a comic book, you had to wait until it actually was released. Sure you might get a magazine that would do a preview or such, but it was always been limited in what it told you and would end up being released just before the comic or TV series or movie was. Nowadays, the internet spoils everything months in advance.

[Shadow]

I talked to a friend of mine about this who isn't a sonic fan. He told me that if a comic has to make a character last longer by changing their entire appearance then its jumping the shark.

[Prime]

I talked to a friend of mine about this who isn't a sonic fan. He told me that if a comic has to make a character last longer by changing their entire appearance then its jumping the shark.

Did Doctor Who jumped the shark way back in 1966 when the first Doctor regenerated into the second?

Seriously though, how often do comic book characters change their appearance? Not often, but you can't really say that changing a whole character's look is jumping the shark. Look how many costumes Catwoman has had over the years, yet she is still the same character as she always was.

They are most likely changing Sally's appearance because she's been rocking her regular look for the best part of around 15 years and now it's time for a change. It is somewhat true that the SatAM cast stick out compared to not only the Sega cast, but comic exclusive cast too. They haven't completely redesigned her though, she still resembles her old self, her clothes have been changed and she doesn't have those tuffs of cheek fur, but is that really ruining her?

[LogiTeeka]

I talked to a friend of mine about this who isn't a sonic fan. He told me that if a comic has to make a character last longer by changing their entire appearance then its jumping the shark.

Was it "jumping-the-shark" when Sonic changed into his modern design when he made the transition into 3D?

[Prime]

I talked to a friend of mine about this who isn't a sonic fan. He told me that if a comic has to make a character last longer by changing their entire appearance then its jumping the shark.

Was it "jumping-the-shark" when Sonic changed into his modern design when he made the transition into 3D?

Dude, what isn't considered jumping the shark these days?

[furrykef]

Was it "jumping-the-shark" when Sonic changed into his modern design when he made the transition into 3D?

YES.

(perhaps not in the games, but I'd have preferred it if they ignored it in the comics... and I'd especially have preferred it if they didn't have that dumb-ass storyline about how Sonic got his new look)

[fishtheimpaler]

But don't all comic companies do press releases whenever a "huge" and "major" storyline/change is happening in one of their comics and then they go about explaining why it is they are doing it? Like when Marvel killed off Captain America, or introduced Miles Morales as the new Spider-Man? I remember reading about these and other things Marvel and DC have been doing which have one of the creative forces behind the comic being interviewed about why they are doing it.

I suppose that's right, I heard of the Captain America one, although I don't know if they released the info before the comic came out. I do remember hearing that they were big about "ONE OF THE FANTASTIC FOUR WILL DIE IN THIS ISSUE"--although at least that left some tension about who was going to die.

This feels a little different than just a press release though. It's more like they already did the press release saying "Sally's going back to normal and check out her neat new look!" and then people were writing in saying "this sucks" and then they wrote another press release saying like "THIS DOES NOT IN FACT SUCK FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS YOU ARE WRONG."

[Uncle Ben]

Yea pretty much