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[bwrosas]

It's the same Sally, but she got a new look : judge for youself :

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[Uncle Ben]

Its actually not that bad in my book. Though i like the original but this is still good in ways

though it is a little bright and you cant see it well

[RedAuthar]

Yeah. But hey, that means she's getting derobotized. I'm good.

[Uncle Ben]

Same here

Wish they gave her long hair again i kinda liked it. Did they say on WHEN she will be de-roboticized??

[bwrosas]

Same here

Wish they gave her long hair again i kinda liked it. Did they say on WHEN she will be de-roboticized??

after crossover from What I heard, just guessing

[Uncle Ben]

my guess will be #250. It just seems right

[Speedy_25]

I like the new look. we all know it's the same Sally, but with a fresh look on her. now that just makes me wonder, what will become of Bunnie and Antione, because we haven't heard anything about them since 235, 236...i think

[PuffinGrandeur]

The deroboticization probably won't happen until at least after the crossover, so that's at least 252 at the earliest.

[Gojira007]

My only hope is that the "new look" isn't attributed to her being weaponized while Roboticized, because to be frank that would make quite literally no sense; how would Robotnik altering her robot body have any effect on her clothing? Sally herself doesn't look all that different, just a slightly altered (and more SEGA-like) hairstyle and a new outfit, but given that said outfit matches up eerily well with her Weaponized Roboticized design, I'm guessing that's the idea they'll go with.

As to the design itself, I'm of two minds about it. It looks perfectly fine on its own, and I'm always up for exciting new looks for old characters. At the same time, I'm rather going to miss Sal's traditional look, and I'm not sure I much care for the extent to which the new design seems aimed at those fans who always complained about Sally being "naked". Still, as long as it's the same Sally we all know and love underneath, I think it'll be OK.

[Uncle Ben]

Hopefully she wont have been changed personality wise after all that

[Gojira007]

I'd be OK with...not so much a personality change as much as her lengthy time Roboticized having an effect on her; assuming the de-Roboticizing happens after the "Mega Man" crossover, she'll have been Roboticized for a longer time than any other member of the Freedom Fighters, and it would be a missed opportunity indeed not to do SOMETHING with that. Then again, missing opportunities has sadly felt a bit like this comic's MO of late, so....

[Uncle Ben]

yea we will have to see

[zelchias]

You know, way back when her modded look was first seen, I wondered aloud if it was possible that the whole thing would ultimately turn out to be very elaborate justification for a new look... and it seems I was right. If this really does turn out to be because of the modifcations she went under, I'm just gonna shake my head that this will be the most significant change she undergoes as a result of her time as a Robian. That and the screwy logic of modifications changing your clothes; it makes about as much sense as Sniv and Robotnik being affected by the BEM when by that point neither of them were in possession of thier original bodies.

That being said, from what little I can see the new look seems fairly solid, so I really got nothing against it in of itself.

[fishtheimpaler]

DON'T WORRY FANS SHE'LL BE BACK TO NORMAL

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO INFLICT THE SLIGHTEST AMOUNT OF SUSPENSE OR SURPRISE UPON YOU

[Velvet D'Coolette]

DON'T WORRY FANS SHE'LL BE BACK TO NORMAL

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO INFLICT THE SLIGHTEST AMOUNT OF SUSPENSE OR SURPRISE UPON YOU

*shrugs* she's been in robot form for so long maybe nobody has thought that realistically she could return to normal. In which case, this was a taster of sorts, a teaser to get people excited.

[RedAuthar]

Also there is the whole "how" problem. Last time it was reversed was because of the Bem, but they were against it. Other times it was a risky operation or just pure luck. What's it going to be this time? Or is it going to be they just free her will and nanite her this new look?

[Captain Sorzo]

I'm rather shocked that this is being announced, especially so soon. Yes, the fact that she was going to be roboticized to begin with was revealed at a panel, but that was right before 230 was released and the full cover of 232 was already leaked.

I was somewhat hoping that she'd remain roboticized for a year or two after regaining her free will and reuniting with the Freedom Fighters, as I think there'd be potential for some interesting character development. Then again, it's been done before with characters like Uncle Chuck and Jules, and I doubt it would amount to anything more than her being more physically capable. This whole plotline of her being roboticized has been nothing but wasted potential, aside from her actual sacrifice in 230, which was excellent. Having her remain roboticized with a nanite-altered appearance, as RedAuthar mentioned, would be a nice twist.

As for the redesign itself, I'm not too keen on it, though I should reserve judgment until a clearer image is available. Her SatAM Season 2 design is a classic, and I'd miss it regardless of the new look.

Complaining aside, I am excited that Sal's coming back soon.

[ILOVEVHS]

Wow! She looks awesome. I bet Sonic'll be happy with the new look!

[bwrosas]

Good Monday afternoon, well I'm sure you guys have already heard about the revelation of Sally's new design which is to debut after the summer crossover if not before, and yet it seems some I'm not too happy about it.

Now I said my piece with short answers and have actually been complimented by two anonymous fellow fans for predicting/guessing/calling the outcome of Sally's current situation.

And true to my fashion, I have already done two videos which will not be posted here, and why, because as you can read I am typing/Dragon Naturally typing my thoughts for you to read.

Now getting on to the subject at hand, it would seem that what several other anonymous fans have stated and pretty much called Ian Flynn out on, is going to occur. True we cannot say what will happen between now and Sally's return to normal, but it seems already that many who have felt that this story arc could be nothing more than an excuse to get her fully clothed, as of the revelation this past weekend at the New York comic con, have been pretty much on the money.

Now one anonymous fan, has stated that if Ian Flynn, Sega, and Archie comics were going to do this, that it would have been easier for them to have/create a side story in one of the issues of the main comic, if not the Universe spinoff, where Sally goes shopping at a mall with Amy or Bunnie for clothes and have one of them tease Sally about her outfit and how much she's a tomboy, shown her said outfit that was revealed at the NYCC panel this past weekend and have her surprise them, that being Amy or Bunnie and buy said outfit and thus start wearing it on a regular basis. That is how this anonymous fan feels it could have been done without putting us or putting her (Sally) through this situation that she's currently in.

Others feel that perhaps she could regain her free will and then have Nicole use her nanites to create the new Sally design to cover and hide the mecha design that Sally currently has. Now I admit that would be intriguing.

The question is though, why are many, both supporters and non-supporters of Ian Flynn not happy with this revelation? The answer, quite simply, is the fact that fans have been reading this story arc for the past 18 months plus and in their minds, the revelation of Sally's new outfit being one, if not the sole reason that this story arc and her being modified after being turned into a robot has been a waste of a potentially good story arc, (which I do understand has had its good moments and it's bad moments), and thus the reason for it is to give her a new outfit and new hairdo. You can pretty much guess why most fans are disappointed and feel let down. However like I said before, we have no idea what could happen in between now and the debut of her new design, we will just have to wait and see what Ian Flynn has in store between now and when she debuts her new outfit and design.

Speaking of Ian Flynn, on a personal note, with all due respect, this just proves to me personally and others that are in the same boat as I am, why Ian Flynn bans us from his message board on his website. True you could say I did this and that while I was a member of his message board, and you may be and are probably correct. But what about those others that have gotten the same treatment? Well I'll tell you like it is, from my point of view, it's because Ian Flynn doesn't like people/fans, especially long-time twenty-year plus fans calling him out, guessing what he's got planned, and overall having a good idea of what the outcome will be.
Now don't get me wrong, Ian Flynn is potentially a great writer, but after this revelation this past weekend and despite how it comes about within the next year, this just proves he needs to improve on his writing and his unpredictability.

I can understand if his main target audience as of right now is the newer/younger generation that's just gotten into the Sonic franchise and most importantly the Sonic comic books. And I can understand if he wants to try and make it unpredictable for them when they read an issue or two on a monthly basis.
Truth is though, if that is the possible reason, then with all due respect towards Ian Flynn, he should at least come out on his message board, his YouTube channel, and his DA account, and let people know that the reason he did what he did is to target the new generation of fans of the comic. And that by doing what he's done to the characters that we as long-time fans have been established towards for the past 20 years, just so he can introduced them to the newer generation, then in my humble opinion, I'm sure maybe not all of us, but some of us would have a better understanding as to why he's done with he's done with the characters that we as long-time fans have enjoyed reading and when he came to the 1993 to 95 Saturday morning cartoon enjoyed watching, I'm sure in my humble opinion he wouldn't be getting as much backlash, if not mixed messages from the fans that either support him, are in the middle, or don't support him at all.

As a longtime fan, I can understand how many feel about this. You're basically taking an established main character and giving her sort of a major overhaul when it comes to her design. But as I have said before when this whole situation began and even before then, it's not the first time that any established character or characters have had the designs slightly altered or overhauled in a major way.
One example, is the original TMNT cartoon which ran for 10 seasons, when it came to the last three seasons, not only did the turtles have redesigns to the characters to match what we saw in the 1990 movie, but April also had a redesign, first from a yellow jumpsuit to a brown jacket, blue T-shirt and jeans/slacks. Then in the last two seasons, her hair was straightened out and not curly on the sides as we've seen in the previous eight seasons.
One more example, the 1990s X-Men cartoon, for four seasons, we were used to seeing them as they were, but when the fifth season came around and Marvel animation took over, characters like Jean Grey, Jubilee, Rogue, Beast, Gambit and even Storm have some slight redesigns to match what you read in the comic book.
Heck, I'll even throw in the 2006 Biker Mice from Mars cartoon, you want to talk about redesigns to certain characters, check out Charlene/Charlie, Carbine, Storker, along with some others, and you kind of get the idea.
Overall what I'm trying to say with these examples, is that even though fans were used to their original designs for many years, there comes a time when things must change, whether we like it or not.

For how this change came about for Sally, I read on one of these message boards, that some parents or a group of parents felt that her original season two design was to suggestive/risque to have in the comic. Now other fans may blame Sega and Archie for succumbing to peer pressure from members of the fan base about her original season two design. But I think we should hold that for judgment, because in this day and age of political correctness if you will, I wouldn't be too surprised if a group of parents and with all due respect some individual moms and dads, had a hand in this decision, but until we find out the exact detail and reasoning behind it, besides as some fans have put it the lame excuse of her being modified/weapoized as the reason for the new outfit, we may never know. But my guess, despite how the decision came about, again I think it's all part of Ian Flynn's plans to reintroduce her to the newer and younger generation/audience.

In closing let me say this, if one of the reasons for this decision is because as some fans have anonymously said in their opinions, is because Ian painted himself into a corner, perhaps what he needs to do, because he has so much on his plate as it is, (in my humble opinion this will help them improve dramatically), is to hand over the reins of several of the comic books he's working on to some other people who can write stories for those comics, for example hand over maybe Sonic Universe to Tracy Yardley, and perhaps Mega-Man to whoever is an up-and-coming writer at Archie, and believe me if he does something like that, it will help him improve, it will take less stress off of him, and may help him become more unpredictable not just with the new generation/fans, but perhaps with us long-time 20+ year fans as well.

And that's all I'm going to say for today.

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[PuffinGrandeur]

Really, makes about as much sense as the roboticizer roboticizing clothes in the first place, which it always did. Considering she still needs to make a betrayal that could destroy the world and it's already been a year of her roboticized, it's a bit early to call copout.