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Sonic the Hedgehog #239



 

Sonic Super Special #4

[LaserX5]

"Hey, Sal, we need to talk!"

SAY WHAT?! Is Sonic really that dumb? He could have ambushed her from behind and maybe even restrained her before she got to Elias, but actually decides to yell to her out in the open like a complete idiot?

Ugh, no wonder I hardly care about this comic anymore. There's no subtlety about it whatsoever.

Oh yea, more pointless padding too. Can't save Sally before 250 since that would obviously hurt this precious story of Ian's I guess...

[PuffinGrandeur]

The Sally subplot is said to end in 241, two issues from now.

And really, when does Sonic need to ambush? He can run at supersonic speeds. He's the least subtle person on the planet besides.

[LaserX5]

The Sally subplot is said to end in 241, two issues from now.

I heard that too, but I seriously doubt it.

It seems to me this story is going to go on until 250.

And really, when does Sonic need to ambush? He can run at supersonic speeds. He's the least subtle person on the planet besides.

All the more reason why yelling out to her was so asinine. Sonic could have easily blindsided Mecha Sally with his speed, but chose not to. Seriously, there's even a scene where they can see her, but she can't see them.

So why in the world would Sonic blow his cover that easily when he's trying to stop her from committing a heinous assassination of her own brother?

Oh wait...

[LogiTeeka]

And really, when does Sonic need to ambush? He can run at supersonic speeds. He's the least subtle person on the planet besides.

All the more reason why yelling out to her was so asinine. Sonic could have easily blindsided Mecha Sally with his speed, but chose not to. Seriously, there's even a scene where they can see her, but she can't see them.

So why in the world would Sonic blow his cover that easily when he's trying to stop her from committing a heinous assassination of her own brother?

Oh wait...

Too be fair, Sonic was never truly smart. Oftentimes, he lets his cocky attitude get in the way of his thinking and just goes without any second thoughts. And why shouldn't he? He's faster than the speed of sound and has extremely good reflexes, so anything unexpected can be easily dodged.

On a different note, it's nice to see the Original Freedom Fighters and Sherman Walrus (Rotor's father) make another appearance. Haven't seen either of them in a while, with them being dead and all.

[PuffinGrandeur]

What was she gonna do to stop him anyway? Are you really gonna say that Sonic's an idiot for not thinking that there was a Silver Sonic hiding in the house he was running by? Who would expect that?

As for 250, the Mega Man crossover will be happening by then. That was confirmed a long time ago.

[LaserX5]

Too be fair, Sonic was never truly smart. Oftentimes, he lets his cocky attitude get in the way of his thinking and just goes without any second thoughts. And why shouldn't he? He's faster than the speed of sound and has extremely good reflexes, so anything unexpected can be easily dodged.

That still doesn't explain though why he would yell out to her when Sonic knows what she's going to do. This isn't the time to blow your cover, but to take action.

Honestly though, I actually get the feeling he was going to try and reason with her again. Yea, that's worked really well in the past, hasn't it?

Both times, she either ignored or insulted him. Sonic must indeed be really thick headed to try it a third time and think it would actually work.

What was she gonna do to stop him anyway? Are you really gonna say that Sonic's an idiot for not thinking that there was a Silver Sonic hiding in the house he was running by? Who would expect that?

I'm saying Sonic's an idiot because he could have hit Mecha Sally with a blindsided spin-dash to her head and heavily stunned her, maybe even getting his comrades to come help him keep her pinned. And who knows? Maybe even be able to take her back to New Mobotropolis to be restored to normal.

But yea, the last option would have been very unlikely.

Yes, there's a chance the Silver Sonic robot would have been released on them regardless, but we don't know that for sure since Mecha Sally didn't sic it on Sonic after blowing his cover.

That's why I'm calling this padding because I saw absolutely no reason for Sonic to do this. He might not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but even him I think is smart enough to figure out when a life is at stake, you stop it at all costs. You don't dillydally around with smooth talk.

[blue]

"Hey, Sal, we need to talk!"

SAY WHAT?! Is Sonic really that dumb? He could have ambushed her from behind and maybe even restrained her before she got to Elias, but actually decides to yell to her out in the open like a complete idiot?

Ugh, no wonder I hardly care about this comic anymore. There's no subtlety about it whatsoever.

Oh yea, more pointless padding too. Can't save Sally before 250 since that would obviously hurt this precious story of Ian's I guess...

Um, I don't think Sonic meant to talk Mecha Sally literally if you look at the apostrophies.

Too be fair, Sonic was never truly smart. Oftentimes, he lets his cocky attitude get in the way of his thinking and just goes without any second thoughts. And why shouldn't he? He's faster than the speed of sound and has extremely good reflexes, so anything unexpected can be easily dodged.

That still doesn't explain though why he would yell out to her when Sonic knows what she's going to do. This isn't the time to blow your cover, but to take action.

Honestly though, I actually get the feeling he was going to try and reason with her again. Yea, that's worked really well in the past, hasn't it?

Both times, she either ignored or insulted him. Sonic must indeed be really thick headed to try it a third time and think it would actually work.

What was she gonna do to stop him anyway? Are you really gonna say that Sonic's an idiot for not thinking that there was a Silver Sonic hiding in the house he was running by? Who would expect that?

I'm saying Sonic's an idiot because he could have hit Mecha Sally with a blindsided spin-dash to her head and heavily stunned her, maybe even getting his comrades to come help him keep her pinned. And who knows? Maybe even be able to take her back to New Mobotropolis to be restored to normal.

But yea, the last option would have been very unlikely.

Yes, there's a chance the Silver Sonic robot would have been released on them regardless, but we don't know that for sure since Mecha Sally didn't sic it on Sonic after blowing his cover.

That's why I'm calling this padding because I saw absolutely no reason for Sonic to do this. He might not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but even him I think is smart enough to figure out when a life is at stake, you stop it at all costs. You don't dillydally around with smooth talk.

I also think she could easily detect Sonic's ambush after what we saw what she's capable of.

[RedAuthar]

No offense but would the story be any better if they actually managed to sneak up on her?

Also Robians have been stronger then Mobians physically since day one. Since Sonic doesn't want to hurt her...what could he really do?

[Keen Bean]

The Sally subplot is said to end in 241, two issues from now.

And really, when does Sonic need to ambush? He can run at supersonic speeds. He's the least subtle person on the planet besides.

I haven't heard that it is suppose to end, but that something BIG is suppose to happen in 241. From reading previews of other comics, and seeing how Sonic Universe is going, I'm going to say that Naugus is defeated and Eggman is driven out during 241 (and during SU 44). Perhaps Mecha Sally is at least "rescued" for now until they can deroboticize her. We've already seen Naugus use his magic to deroboticize Bunny (and she was modified as well, just like Sally), so perhaps another Ixis wizard... one who is in desperate need of redemption can use his magic to... that's about the only way I can see Mecha Sally returning. I'm assuming the writers don't plan on killing her (again).

[Shadow]

I have a hard time taking you seriously Lazerx5, when you have Linkara in your avatar.

[Prime]

I have a hard time taking you seriously Lazerx5, when you have Linkara in your avatar.

Agree with you there.

Sally being rescued and deroboticized in #241 is nothing but speculation at this point. Probably down to the what was said that when this arc started that it would last for the best part of a year and that time is nearly up. But then it was said that it would also last up till the next milestone.

However, I believe it's been said that #250 will be the start of the Sonic/Megaman crossover and this was kinda forced upon Flynn to rework his gameplan. If that's the case, the deroboticization will have to come before that or after it.

From the previews we've gotten for #242, you know, the Olympic Games issue, we still don't have a clue if Sally will be deroboticized in #241. We can wait till previews for #243 come out to see if it's happened or not, but even if it does happen, I bet it'll be played close to the chest to not reveal it. KInda like how the covers for #231 and #232 had Mecha-Sally blacked out to keep the suspense. That was until a website cocked up and showed the actual uncensored #232 cover.

I'm saying Sonic's an idiot because he could have hit Mecha Sally with a blindsided spin-dash to her head and heavily stunned her, maybe even getting his comrades to come help him keep her pinned. And who knows? Maybe even be able to take her back to New Mobotropolis to be restored to normal.

If that happened, that'd be a real cheap way to end this whole Mecha Sally story. And if it did happen like that, you'd probably complain about it for being so bloody cheap.

[PuffinGrandeur]

Yes, there's a chance the Silver Sonic robot would have been released on them regardless, but we don't know that for sure

It's a Silver Sonic.
what do you think it's there for

[LaserX5]

[=Um, I don't think Sonic meant to talk Mecha Sally literally if you look at the apostrophes.

Yea, I see what you mean.

Still, I found this just so stupid. I mean, really, why would Sonic blow his cover when he's trying to protect a life?

I also think she could easily detect Sonic's ambush after what we saw what she's capable of.

More than likely, yes, but he at least ought to try for the sake of Elias.

No offense but would the story be any better if they actually managed to sneak up on her?

Also Robians have been stronger then Mobians physically since day one. Since Sonic doesn't want to hurt her...what could he really do?

It just would have at least looked like Archie Sonic wasn't trying to pad up this story up to 250 due to that being a milestone issue if they did it this way..

That was my biggest problem with this: trying to stall just as they obviously stalled in 238 when Tails had a chance to take her down as well, but completely chickened out without even giving it one shot.

Reminds me alot of what DIC did in Captain N with Mother Brain.

And no, I wouldn't want Sonic to hurt her, but to try and stun her, maybe even pin her down long enough for Elias to escape and get far enough away she couldn't track him down.

I have a hard time taking you seriously Lazerx5, when you have Linkara in your avatar.

I take it you haven't watched his reviews then, because he takes his reviews very seriously.

Eh, whatever then...

Sally being rescued and deroboticized in #241 is nothing but speculation at this point. Probably down to the what was said that when this arc started that it would last for the best part of a year and that time is nearly up. But then it was said that it would also last up till the next milestone.

I'm hedging my bets Sally won't be deroboticized by 241 since it just seems something Archie Sonic wouldn't do for a character they have little regard for. No, they'd want to save this for 250 if I know them.

If that happened, that'd be a real cheap way to end this whole Mecha Sally story. And if it did happen like that, you'd probably complain about it for being so bloody cheap.

Again, you misinterpreted my comment. I never said I wanted them to restore her that easily, though I wouldn't mind it too much I'll admit...

I just don't like it when a company makes lame excuse after lame excuse for why the heroes can't resolve their current conflict because it would interfere with a certain milestone number or even lose profits.

It makes them look very lazy and greedy in my eyes when I see stuff like this.

[Shadow]

I have a hard time taking you seriously Lazerx5, when you have Linkara in your avatar.

I take it you haven't watched his reviews then, because he takes his reviews very seriously.

Eh, whatever then...

I have. I find him to a whiny little man child who seems to not know what he's talking about most of the time. I cant stand the guy or his little comedy basement skits that turn into big storylines.

[LaserX5]

I have. I find him to a whiny little man child who seems to not know what he's talking about most of the time. I cant stand the guy or his little comedy basement skits that turn into big storylines.

Well, if you really feel that way, so be it.

I however find his reviews very entertaining, even informative at times.

[Prime]

Sally being rescued and deroboticized in #241 is nothing but speculation at this point. Probably down to the what was said that when this arc started that it would last for the best part of a year and that time is nearly up. But then it was said that it would also last up till the next milestone.

I'm hedging my bets Sally won't be deroboticized by 241 since it just seems something Archie Sonic wouldn't do for a character they have little regard for. No, they'd want to save this for 250 if I know them.

Yeah but that's the thing, you don't know them. You don't know any of the creative team behind that comic and you're just going by what you think and what you believe of them. You are just pissy at them over this current story arc and what they have done to Sally.

Do you really think that they'd hold this character with such small regard if they didn't keep her around. They can do whatever they want with the character and if they hate and despise her like you think they do, they'd of gotten rid of her ages ago. Flynn has been writing this series for the best part of six years, going on seven now and you really think he has waited all this time to get rid of the character now? Hell, he planned on getting rid of Mina because he was open about how much he didn't like that character and yet she's still around. And it was Ian who gave Sally a purpose for being in the comic again after how well Penders and Bollers botched things up starting with #134.

Don't pull the whole "well the fans would stop reading and sales would drop!" excuse because in the world of comics characters die all the time and the books keep selling. They could of killed her off, seen how things went and if by some chance that sales did drop, they could come up with an excuse to bring her back because in comics, if you die, you'll probably be back in less then a year.

And hell, they still continue to include Sally on the covers for the upcoming graphic novels with new artwork. Let's see... On the cover of Best of Sonic the Hedgehog comics Volume 1 we have Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, Metal Sonic annnnnd Sally. She's the only comic character on there with the rest being game characters. They could of easily of put Amy or someone else in place, but no they put Sally there. She's also on the cover of the upcoming Super Sonic Digest #1. Does this mean they love the character? No. But if they hate her so much, why go to the trouble of including her in there when they could put another game character on there to appeal to the much wider video game fanbase?

Yeah, the current arc has pissed off a lot of people, you're not alone in that regard, but there are people who are fans of Sally that have been enjoying it. I know a couple of Sally fanboys who are loving this arc and are eager to see how it all comes to it's end.

Not trying to start a fight or anything, but seriously, constantly hearing you complain about how much Archie/Sega/Flynn hate Sally and the other SatAM cast members with no real evidence to back this claim up is has gotten stale.

[PuffinGrandeur]

As a note, Eggman had the whole attack set up just to distract Sonic while he goes to attack New Mobotropolis without interference. He knew Sonic was going to be there the entire time, hell he COUNTED on Sonic being there. There was no cover to break, and the Silver Sonic was there specifically to fight him.

And again: 250 is explicitly part of the Sonic/Mega Man story. They're not saving Metal Sally for it.

[blue]

Do you really think that they'd hold this character with such small regard if they didn't keep her around. They can do whatever they want with the character and if they hate and despise her like you think they do, they'd of gotten rid of her ages ago. Flynn has been writing this series for the best part of six years, going on seven now and you really think he has waited all this time to get rid of the character now? Hell, he planned on getting rid of Mina because he was open about how much he didn't like that character and yet she's still around. And it was Ian who gave Sally a purpose for being in the comic again after how well Penders and Bollers botched things up starting with #134.

Well I guess that explains why Mina was brainwashed by Mammoth Mogul and Mina's message was used to brainwash people to hate NICOLE.

[PuffinGrandeur]

Mina's musical message storyline was long after Ian stopped disliking her.