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[MoonPrincess07]

Personally, I think the whole team thing was kinda cheesy (or any other food related adjective), but I can see where he's going with it

[Speedy_25]

wow...page 4...Amy looks like she's about to pull off some psycho move or something........eep

[LaserX5]

Wow, this whole turnabout scene feels very, VERY rushed.

I mean, Sonic goes from, "woe is me." to, "Eh, I was only joking around, guys." in a matter of two pages?

Just simply not believable in the least.

I know there are limits to what you can do in a story since there's only a certain amount of pages you can work with, but I think Ian could have certainly tried harder than this to show them going from, "rock bottom" to getting back on track.

Personally, I think the whole team thing was kinda cheesy (or any other food related adjective), but I can see where he's going with it

Yep. It's called highlighting Team Sega Sonic's main 3 as the main heroes of the story now.

Just the way SOJ wants it...

[Prime]

Yep. It's called highlighting Team Sega Sonic's main 3 as the main heroes of the story now.

Just the way SOJ wants it...

I think you're confusing SoJ with SoA, since it's the American branch of SEGA that has to approve of everything in the comic. I really doubt SoJ give two shits about the comic.

Gave this issue a quick go over, nothing impressive really. Not good, not bad, so so. But it seems like the Freedom Fighters are getting their shit together and the tables could be turning in their favor.

[LogiTeeka]

Wow, this whole turnabout scene feels very, VERY rushed.

I mean, Sonic goes from, "woe is me." to, "Eh, I was only joking around, guys." in a matter of two pages?

Just simply not believable in the least.

I know there are limits to what you can do in a story since there's only a certain amount of pages you can work with, but I think Ian could have certainly tried harder than this to show them going from, "rock bottom" to getting back on track.

I think Ian is trying his best, but he has to keep everything in check. If it weren't for Sega's demands and the limited amount of pages per issue, Ian's stories would definitely be better off than what they usually are (he confirmed it on the recent podcast). Personally, I think everyone should stop blaming Ian for everything and start pointing their fingers at Sega's strict policies.

Personally, I think the whole team thing was kinda cheesy (or any other food related adjective), but I can see where he's going with it

Yep. It's called highlighting Team Sega Sonic's main 3 as the main heroes of the story now.

Just the way SOJ wants it...

What's wrong with them acting as a team? It's much better than them acting separately on their own. Plus, weren't they already part of a team? They weren't called "Freedom Fighters" for nothing, right?

[MoonPrincess07]

I've been thinking about it and actually, splitting the FFs into two separate units makes some sense. They've been getting several attacks on the homefront as of late, so having that one team back at the city is going to prove beneficial I think.

[LaserX5]

I think you're confusing SoJ with SoA, since it's the American branch of SEGA that has to approve of everything in the comic. I really doubt SoJ give two shits about the comic.

Gave this issue a quick go over, nothing impressive really. Not good, not bad, so so. But it seems like the Freedom Fighters are getting their shit together and the tables could be turning in their favor.

Um, you are aware of the fact SOJ largely controls what goes on with Sonic, right?

At least they did last time I checked.

Besides, how else do you explain SOJ's main cast now the main heroes of the story?

That can't be just a mere coincidence.

I think Ian is trying his best, but he has to keep everything in check. If it weren't for Sega's demands and the limited amount of pages per issue, Ian's stories would definitely be better off than what they usually are (he confirmed it on the recent podcast). Personally, I think everyone should stop blaming Ian for everything and start pointing their fingers at Sega's strict policies.

Um, I do blame Sega for their strict policies, more than you know by the way.

Even so, I can't point the finger at them for Ian rushing through the part of the story where the remaining heroes getting their act together, forming 2 new teams and then fighting Eggman's robots in Furville.

I mean, that's an awful lot happening in one issue for it to mesh.

What's wrong with them acting as a team? It's much better than them acting separately on their own. Plus, weren't they already part of a team? They weren't called "Freedom Fighters" for nothing, right?

It's not them acting like a team that bothered so much as the fact the only ones left are SegaSonic's preferred 3, as if it was a subliminal message as who the favorites are of this comic.

[Prime]

I think you're confusing SoJ with SoA, since it's the American branch of SEGA that has to approve of everything in the comic. I really doubt SoJ give two shits about the comic.

Gave this issue a quick go over, nothing impressive really. Not good, not bad, so so. But it seems like the Freedom Fighters are getting their shit together and the tables could be turning in their favor.

Um, you are aware of the fact SOJ largely controls what goes on with Sonic, right?

At least they did last time I checked.

Besides, how else do you explain SOJ's main cast now the main heroes of the story?

Well I dunno? But I'm not gonna point my finger and claim it's the one entity I don't like.

Sonic is a huge franchise around the world and it's obvious that SoJ can't control every aspect of it all. SoJ control alot of it, yes, but not all of it, there's things they won't control and this is likely one of them. SoA is most likely the one in charge of what happens in the comic since the comic is an American production, much like how SoJ controls all major aspects of the Sonic franchise in Japan and surrounding areas. I seriously doubt SoJ care about the Archie comic enough to have each and every issue sent over to them every month or so for them to go over it and see what's happening in there. Because if they did, do you really think Archie would be allowed to keep adding more and more new characters, especially those who look nothing like the typical Sonic character? If SoJ were intent on controlling the book, It would be more logical for them to demand a complete reboot and have it focus solely on their games.

So yeah, I honestly doubt SoJ are demanding anything to do with that comic and it's all down to SoA.

For an example, take the Summer of Sonic conventions, which is run by fans, but SoE has a big hand in what happens in those shows now (especially since they are helping foot the bill), SoE makes the choices as to what can and can't happen at that event now, not SoJ.

Or take Transformers which is jointly owned by Hasbro and Takara-Tomy. While both companies own the franchise, there are things that happen in the western world which Hasbro controls while Takara-Tomy see to Japan and the rest of Asia. There are plenty of times when the western world has received exlcusive material to Transformers while Japan gets exactly their own exclusive stuff. Takara has no say in what happens in the American produced Transformers comics and licensed material, and vice versa. Only time it will happen is when both companies work together on the same project.

Just because the major game characters are now getting more focus in the comic, doesn't mean it's SoJ demanding the changes. And even if it is, it's what Flynn has to do. He's hired to write a licensed property for a big franchise which has been going for about 20 years now. If the stories seem choppy and sloppy, it's most likely down to the fact that it's what Sega (doesn't matter which enitity of the company) wants. The Iron Dominion saga is a prime example of that, Flynn wanted it to run longer but SEGA wanted it to be over and done with. Flynn has to do what he is told, and he can't really help that, but who gets the stick for it? Flynn does for the most part.

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Wow, this whole turnabout scene feels very, VERY rushed.

I mean, Sonic goes from, "woe is me." to, "Eh, I was only joking around, guys." in a matter of two pages?

Just simply not believable in the least.

I know there are limits to what you can do in a story since there's only a certain amount of pages you can work with, but I think Ian could have certainly tried harder than this to show them going from, "rock bottom" to getting back on track.

Personally, I think the whole team thing was kinda cheesy (or any other food related adjective), but I can see where he's going with it

Yep. It's called highlighting Team Sega Sonic's main 3 as the main heroes of the story now.

Just the way SOJ wants it...

So, you want Sonic to be emo to most of the future issues. Don't get me wrong I know where you're going, but I don't feel that turnabout was that rushed and if he stayed like that, then people would get annoyed eventually.

[PuffinGrandeur]

I don't think this is a complete turnaround, in any case. Sonic's fairly unshakable, but not ALL his bravado and smiles are genuine. Especially with Tails and Amy, at some points he's just putting on a brave face for others (just like when he broke Eggman back in 200.)

[LaserX5]

Well I dunno? But I'm not gonna point my finger and claim it's the one entity I don't like.

Sonic is a huge franchise around the world and it's obvious that SoJ can't control every aspect of it all. SoJ control alot of it, yes, but not all of it, there's things they won't control and this is likely one of them. SoA is most likely the one in charge of what happens in the comic since the comic is an American production, much like how SoJ controls all major aspects of the Sonic franchise in Japan and surrounding areas. I seriously doubt SoJ care about the Archie comic enough to have each and every issue sent over to them every month or so for them to go over it and see what's happening in there. Because if they did, do you really think Archie would be allowed to keep adding more and more new characters, especially those who look nothing like the typical Sonic character? If SoJ were intent on controlling the book, It would be more logical for them to demand a complete reboot and have it focus solely on their games.

So yeah, I honestly doubt SoJ are demanding anything to do with that comic and it's all down to SoA.

For an example, take the Summer of Sonic conventions, which is run by fans, but SoE has a big hand in what happens in those shows now (especially since they are helping foot the bill), SoE makes the choices as to what can and can't happen at that event now, not SoJ.

Or take Transformers which is jointly owned by Hasbro and Takara-Tomy. While both companies own the franchise, there are things that happen in the western world which Hasbro controls while Takara-Tomy see to Japan and the rest of Asia. There are plenty of times when the western world has received exclusive material to Transformers while Japan gets exactly their own exclusive stuff. Takara has no say in what happens in the American produced Transformers comics and licensed material, and vice versa. Only time it will happen is when both companies work together on the same project.

Just because the major game characters are now getting more focus in the comic, doesn't mean it's SoJ demanding the changes. And even if it is, it's what Flynn has to do. He's hired to write a licensed property for a big franchise which has been going for about 20 years now. If the stories seem choppy and sloppy, it's most likely down to the fact that it's what Sega (doesn't matter which entity of the company) wants. The Iron Dominion saga is a prime example of that, Flynn wanted it to run longer but SEGA wanted it to be over and done with. Flynn has to do what he is told, and he can't really help that, but who gets the stick for it? Flynn does for the most part.

I get what you're saying about the Sega meddling, but I really doubt they told Ian he had to show Sonic and his friends had to get back to being happy after so much turmoil so quickly.

I mean, if they allowed 5 issues of carnage and despair, why would they not allow another?

That seems a bit hypocritical on their part if that's what really happened.

So, you want Sonic to be emo to most of the future issues. Don't get me wrong I know where you're going, but I don't feel that turnabout was rushed and if he stayed like that, then people would get annoyed eventually.

I never said he had to stay like that, but that turnabout was not believable in the least.

I mean, people who really care about someone just don't get over sad moments like that so quickly. They just don't.

If I had a friend suffered serious injury or was even killed, I wouldn't just shrug my shoulders the next day, and say, "Eh, life goes on."

No, it would take some time for me to cope and come to terms with it.

Since Sonic has had his girlfriend and a comrade suffer a horrible fate, this should have affected him a bit more.

He was even thinking over what Scourge said about having a bad day and he'd be like him on the very first panel of his appearance.

How in the world did he go from that to getting all peppy because of one loud and abrupt speech by Amy two pages later?

[PuffinGrandeur]

He didn't get peppy. He just started getting better, after moping for several issues. Because you know, he's Sonic.

[LaserX5]

He didn't get peppy. He just started getting better, after moping for several issues. Because you know, he's Sonic.

Yes, but that still doesn't explain the part of him saying he was joking with his friends when they confronted him about giving up.

Um, that makes no sense.

As I said earlier, the first page showed Sonic was not joking in the least. He really was feeling the effects of losing several friends to horrible fates.

[PuffinGrandeur]

I guess it doesn't make sense, as that text saying he was joking seems to be invisible. Amy and Tails say "you must be joking." It is a very subtle phrase which means "are you for real", and is apparently very confusing. No one thinks anyone is actually joking, and he certainly never says he is.

[randomizer]

Wow, talk about going overboard with references to older issues.