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Antoine Is...

Started by blue, Feb 20 2012 12:48 AM

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#61 LogiTeeka

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:40 AM

Then what happens they don't change its own quo for a long time and people get tired of it?

I never said don't change anything.

But when something is working, why mess with it?

Maybe tinker with things here and there for a change of pace, but it has to be done with caution. Sometimes, changes makes things worse.

If that's the case, why is everyone so riled up with Sally being roboticized or the Freedom Fighters' loosing streak? This "tinkering with things here and there" is pretty much the same as this "playing God" thing everyone accuses Ian for doing. If you're the writer, you're the one who decides what happens.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Antoine won't be dead forever. He'll be back. This is how comics work you know.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:19 PM

Then what happens they don't change its own quo for a long time and people get tired of it?

I never said don't change anything.

But when something is working, why mess with it?

Maybe tinker with things here and there for a change of pace, but it has to be done with caution. Sometimes, changes makes things worse.

If that's the case, why is everyone so riled up with Sally being roboticized or the Freedom Fighters' loosing streak? This "tinkering with things here and there" is pretty much the same as this "playing God" thing everyone accuses Ian for doing. If you're the writer, you're the one who decides what happens.

Maybe Laser doesn't like this change and also doesn't realize that "playing God" is kinda like you're the writer, you're the one decides what happens?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:28 PM

If that's the case, why is everyone so riled up with Sally being roboticized or the Freedom Fighters' loosing streak? This "tinkering with things here and there" is pretty much the same as this "playing God" thing everyone accuses Ian for doing. If you're the writer, you're the one who decides what happens.

The thing is though, Ian has done more than just tinkering here.

I mean, had he only roboticized Sally and have Naugus become king of New Mobotropolis, that would have been tolerable.

But on top of that, he's had Bunnie crystallized and then deroboticized in the most ridiculous of ways, Sally weaponized, Antoine blasted by a robot suicide bomber and New Mobotropolis blown up.

I'm sorry, that is WAY MORE than just tinkering.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:37 PM

If that's the case, why is everyone so riled up with Sally being roboticized or the Freedom Fighters' loosing streak? This "tinkering with things here and there" is pretty much the same as this "playing God" thing everyone accuses Ian for doing. If you're the writer, you're the one who decides what happens.

The thing is though, Ian has done more than just tinkering here.

I mean, had he only roboticized Sally and have Naugus become king of New Mobotropolis, that would have been tolerable.

But on top of that, he's had Bunnie crystallized and then deroboticized in the most ridiculous of ways, Sally weaponized, Antoine blasted by a robot suicide bomber and New Mobotropolis blown up.

I'm sorry, that is WAY MORE than just tinkering.

Actually, Tracy Yardley is the one who blow up New Mobotropolis and technically the city didn't really blow up entirely, just the palace. Unless you're talking about Titan Metal Sonic 2.0.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:13 PM

^{Actually, Eggman fixing Sally up with some weapons made sense to me. I mean, if you're going to roboticize the princess of the resistance, you'd at least want her to be deadlier. It makes it harder to combat one who was a friend or loved one.}

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

Hey, so people have 235. How do I put spoiler tags so I can give a little info on what Antoine is or isn't.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:26 PM

^{Actually, Eggman fixing Sally up with some weapons made sense to me. I mean, if you're going to roboticize the princess of the resistance, you'd at least want her to be deadlier. It makes it harder to combat one who was a friend or loved one.}

Ok, deadlier I have no problem with.

But why wasn't that deadliness used in the extent of using her knowledge of what she knew about Eggman's enemies to his advantage?

Or if Eggman really was capable of this kind of technology, why wasn't it used for his other robots too?

I mean, why just stop with Sally? Why not do it with Metal and Silver Sonic III too if he truly can make robots this deadly?

This is another thing that really irks me about Ian's latest story: The vast inconsistencies.

It's like the head writer makes stuff up on the fly about what Eggman can really do.

That and the fact he makes hoverboards appear out of nowhere and then doesn't give the Freedom Fighters weapons to fight with to protect the Acorn family either.

Seriously, who does that on a mission to protect a royal family?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

Metal Sonic is on Metal Sally's level. As was Silver Sonic III. And Omega. And lots of his bots, really. IF you're going to ask why they don't bring some big guns to protect the Acorn family, you might as well ask why they didn't bring them on every mission ever.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:28 PM

^{Actually, Eggman fixing Sally up with some weapons made sense to me. I mean, if you're going to roboticize the princess of the resistance, you'd at least want her to be deadlier. It makes it harder to combat one who was a friend or loved one.}

Ok, deadlier I have no problem with.

But why wasn't that deadliness used in the extent of using her knowledge of what she knew about Eggman's enemies to his advantage?

Or if Eggman really was capable of this kind of technology, why wasn't it used for his other robots too?

I mean, why just stop with Sally? Why not do it with Metal and Silver Sonic III too if he truly can make robots this deadly?

This is another thing that really irks me about Ian's latest story: The vast inconsistencies.

It's like the head writer makes stuff up on the fly about what Eggman can really do.

That and the fact he makes hoverboards appear out of nowhere and then doesn't give the Freedom Fighters weapons to fight with to protect the Acorn family either.

Seriously, who does that on a mission to protect a royal family?

Maybe Ian Flynn never thought of that.
Because Sally is the Freedom Fighters' weakness at this point.
The Freedom Fighters have found some hover boards after the Armada abandoned their ship.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:18 AM

The Freedom Fighters have found some hoverboards after the Armada abandoned their ship.

Was that confirmed though in the comic?

And even if it was, why would they just leave them there?

It doesn't make any sense.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:17 AM

The Freedom Fighters have found some hoverboards after the Armada abandoned their ship.

Was that confirmed though in the comic?

And even if it was, why would they just leave them there?

It doesn't make any sense.

The Armada was in a hurry at the time.
You can probably argue there were scouts in issue 233.
Sure, they probably got most of the equipment, but they could leave some behind.
Also, they probably did that off panel or Tails made his own version of hover boards.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:33 AM

Hey, so people have 235. How do I put spoiler tags so I can give a little info on what Antoine is or isn't.

Spoiler

(If you quote my post, it will show the code for it.)

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:45 AM

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:09 PM

That and the fact he makes hoverboards appear out of nowhere

Actually, the FF's hoverboards were introduced in StH #164 (part 2 of the Sonic Riders tie-in)
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I agree that Ian has been dropping a lot of crapstorms on readers in a disturbingly short amout of time (Sally roboticized, Naugus as King, etc.) which amount to much more than merely "tinkering". It'll be interesting to see how everything is resolved...or not.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:57 PM

^{Actually, Eggman fixing Sally up with some weapons made sense to me. I mean, if you're going to roboticize the princess of the resistance, you'd at least want her to be deadlier. It makes it harder to combat one who was a friend or loved one.}

Ok, deadlier I have no problem with.

But why wasn't that deadliness used in the extent of using her knowledge of what she knew about Eggman's enemies to his advantage?

Or if Eggman really was capable of this kind of technology, why wasn't it used for his other robots too?

I mean, why just stop with Sally? Why not do it with Metal and Silver Sonic III too if he truly can make robots this deadly?

This is another thing that really irks me about Ian's latest story: The vast inconsistencies.

1.) Maybe he didn't think of it before. Maybe he didn't realize how far he needed to go to get the edge.

2.) Robotocized citizen vs regular robot makes a difference? (I'm not sure if it does, I haven't read anything beyond the first hint that Eggman was doing stuff to Sally)

It's like the head writer makes stuff up on the fly about what Eggman can really do.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:30 PM

Maybe Sally's mental capacity can block the some of the commands Eggman gives.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:02 AM

Maybe Sally's mental capacity can block the some of the commands Eggman gives.

So far, Mecha Sally obeyed all of Eggman's commands up to issue 236, but we shall see.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

2.) Robotocized citizen vs regular robot makes a difference? (I'm not sure if it does, I haven't read anything beyond the first hint that Eggman was doing stuff to Sally)

Think that's the idea. They generally didn't fight against normal roboticized mobians back in the day; the roboticizer doesn't automatically add guns and such.