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It's now been 400 days since the release of the last Archie Sonic issue.

@  Uncle Ben : (14 February 2018 - 10:23 PM)

Arguably it lead to 21CF selling to Disney

@  RedAuthar : (14 February 2018 - 09:12 PM)

Ha!

@  Shadow : (13 February 2018 - 10:23 PM)

These are also the same people who thought Fant4stic would be so successful they would combine it with FOX's X Men to make their own Avengers franchise.

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Sony are fickle bastards who on one hand sold the rights off to Spiderman to Marvel Studios but at the same time are exploiting every loophole to be able to use and abuse the Spiderman brand without directly having Spiderman in it. Like the upcoming Miles Morales Spiderman animated movie.

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Venom is being done by Sony which is not part of the MCU, but they are counting on you thinking it is due it being a Marvel property.

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Is Venom being made by 20th Century or Marvel now? The whole 21st Century Fox sale to Disney makes things confusing

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Kind of pointless then if you have a teaser but nothing to show the actual character.

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It's just a teaser so far though right? Maybe the full trailer will show him.

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Well, Sony's Venom trailer sure sucked. He wasn't even in it.

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*coughs* Didymus! What's up?

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We win the internet.

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What do we win?

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So the Sega forums are shutting down. That means we win right?

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*blows dust off account*

@  Quickster : (26 January 2018 - 08:31 PM)

C-c-c-c-coincidence!

@  Uncle Ben : (25 January 2018 - 08:12 PM)

Today is January 25th. In 3 days, it will be January 28th. January 28th marks 51 weeks since the Atlanta Falcons blew a 28-3 lead on Super Bowl 51.

@  LogiTeeka : (24 January 2018 - 10:52 PM)

I'm looking forward to seeing how this new series starts off.

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R.I.P my interest in Sonic comics.

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Well lets hope she is less cancerous than Mina the Mongoose and Tommy Turtle.


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Ken Penders Archie Lawsuit

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#161 LogiTeeka

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 11:35 PM

There's been 0 world building in the reboot. There's been little explanations of things and everything just gets dropped on us and the explanation is usually (and I'm going the cinema sins route on this) "Because.... reasons"


The same can be said for the old continuity and even SatAM itself. The series dumps you in the middle of the conflict without any given explanation until much later; and even then, it still doesn't address everything. Robotnik took control of Mobotropolis because... reasons; he wants to roboticize everyone because... reasons, yet he banished the king because... reasons, and is fighting a blue hedgehog that runs super fast because... reasons.

The comics and show started out the same way and, as time passed, everyone became familiar and grew attached to it. But now since that's all out the window, they have to do it all over again. And so far, they've introduced a whole lot of new material to work with. There hasn't been much development because they're not done introducing everything yet.

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Posted 09 May 2016 - 05:39 PM

Speaking of Penders.. Besides those on his own site has anyone jumped in to support him? Basically every community out there is against him. At least from what I've seen.

Also because I really know nothing about the comics, how long has he been away from writing for Archie for?

wait...he has his own webisite. link me it so I can troll the hell out of him.



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Posted 09 May 2016 - 07:04 PM

wait...he has his own webisite. link me it so I can troll the hell out of him.

 

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Posted 09 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

We don't want you going down to his level.

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 06:37 PM

Please don't make it worse by becoming a troll.  We can't change Penders' decision, and trolling him is acting rude and immature.  Whatever the reasons he had for doing what he did he chose them and he will face the consequences for those choices later on.  Our role, though, is to still treat him as another human being whether we agree with his actions or hate him for the changes he made with the franchise.  Let's not create more trouble as there is enough out there, mate.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 01:09 PM

Please don't make it worse by becoming a troll. We can't change Penders' decision, and trolling him is acting rude and immature. Whatever the reasons he had for doing what he did he chose them and he will face the consequences for those choices later on. Our role, though, is to still treat him as another human being whether we agree with his actions or hate him for the changes he made with the franchise. Let's not create more trouble as there is enough out there, mate.



Ditto.

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 02:11 PM

I should chime in on some frustrations I have over how lackluster the character Naugus is written in this comic. It seems no writer ever really knows what to do with him. He constantly gets shit on, and seems to always get beaten by some dues ex machina at the last moment in a usual anti climatic note. We had him and his sister take over Eggman's headquarters where Eggman had to assemble his dirty dozen team to reclaim it. A set up for a fun story, but when it came time to deal with Naugus I think Ian just went "fuck it" and made Eggman pull out a magic power armor that is conveniently magic-proof, that has never been mentioned or shown before- and will not use again, too. All that build up of him just for that?

Then we get a second story where he has a chance to redeem himself by hijacking the master emerald. Another good set up here. With Knuckles and Team Dark their could be an interesting set up of them learning to trust eachother, and to find some kind of flaw in his magic to exploit or outsmart him. Nah, he just decides to step off the emerald like a dumbass and go take a nap because the plot said so. This leads to an embarrassing gang beating and him thrown in prison.

Why even write stories about him when he's treated like such a joke. I know the heroes have to win but you don't need to abuse him like this.



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 05:36 PM

Eh. Honestly, I never found Naugus to be all that interesting to begin with. Even with Ben Hurst's notes for the cancelled 3rd season, I still found him to be a pretty bare-bones villain.

 

The only time I thought he was remotely interesting was during the Mecha Sally arc, with him influencing the citizens' emotions and claiming the throne to Mobotropolis, for it made him slightly intimidating and, on some occasions, legitimately scary (his Ghibli-esque mutations were pretty grotesque). But despite that, he was still pretty hammy and we all knew that he was gonna loose in the end anyhow. He's definitely unique, but unlike Eggman - who is a staple of the franchise - Naugus is pretty minor in comparison.



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 11:40 PM

He might be bare bones, but in SatAM and much of the original timeline of Archie he was treated as a serious threat. Even before Ian Flynn took over he was handled poorly with him being banished for over a hundred issues after having midget bill cosby somehow zap him back into the void, which was thankfully redone in a better story of Sonic having to struggle to overcome and drive him back. The sorcerer element makes him unique in a world dominated mostly by Eggman's technology, so he should be treated like a fierce rival to Eggman, and someone who can potentially overtake him if not for Sonic. Let us not forget the time when Ian thought turning Naugus into a mindless vegetable, and Mammoth Mogul's deranged pet would be good for the story.

It's frustrating that everytime he is developed to do something interesting its immediately thrown out. Why not have him retreat to fight another day, or to cut his losses when faced with defeat? Hell, I think even Snively has gotten better character treatment than Naugus in the series,

 

Rather than be a punching bag for all the heroes, I would develop him as an independent faction against Eggman and Mobotropolis. Develop his powers to be reliant on rings and emeralds, and have him build a crystal palace filled with crystallized mobians. An inversion to Robotropolis, if you will.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 08:44 AM

The sorcerer element makes him unique in a world dominated mostly by Eggman's technology, so he should be treated like a fierce rival to Eggman, and someone who can potentially overtake him if not for Sonic. Let us not forget the time when Ian thought turning Naugus into a mindless vegetable, and Mammoth Mogul's deranged pet would be good for the story.

 

Considering Mogul was once the prime villain when it came to sorcerery, Naugus didn't seem all that necessary back then. It wasn't until Mogul's "retirement" that Naugus started to play a larger role.

 

It's frustrating that everytime he is developed to do something interesting its immediately thrown out. Why not have him retreat to fight another day, or to cut his losses when faced with defeat? Hell, I think even Snively has gotten better character treatment than Naugus in the series,

 

Isn't that what he does? He retreated back in the beginning of the reboot and he retreated again when Eggman beat him, shortly followed by the betrayal/disowning of his sister.

 

Snively has always been a far better character, even way back in SatAM. His narcassistic, morally-grey, anti-hero/villain charm and background is what makes him so compelling. He's not sympathetic (most of the time), but you can understand where his personality comes from. Eggman and Naugus are meant to be your standard villains.

 

Rather than be a punching bag for all the heroes, I would develop him as an independent faction against Eggman and Mobotropolis. Develop his powers to be reliant on rings and emeralds, and have him build a crystal palace filled with crystallized mobians. An inversion to Robotropolis, if you will.

 

Not a bad idea. Though when it comes to making those sorts of villains, it's best not to make them seem too pretentious. That's one of the problems I had with the SatAM Robotnik. The show tried way too hard to make him seem like an interesting character, when in actuality, he was a pretty generic villain.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:07 AM

Well, the way the comic has been restructured its become the Eggman show, since Naugus seems to be the only independent villain who is not currently under his thumb. Everyone else has debts to pay, or are doing it for the greater good of their people. Naugus could really mess with Eggman with causing dissent in his ranks, mind control, and generally disturb his plan. I think one story that has yet to be done which would be interesting would be for Naugus to take over the Death Egg and turn it into the Crystal Egg(a callback to a game gear level), with Eggman and Sonic having to have another one of their team ups to destroy it. Eggman would keep the Death Egg which is now crashed somewhere and would be temporarily out of service, leading into another story arc of it being rebuilt and emerald hunting like in the genesis games.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 03:24 PM

Well, the way the comic has been restructured its become the Eggman show, since Naugus seems to be the only independent villain who is not currently under his thumb. Everyone else has debts to pay, or are doing it for the greater good of their people.

 

I'm not so sure about that. Snively is still a potential threat (considering his plans for "Operation: Conquest") and Eclipse the Darkling is on the loose as well. And in terms of anti-villains, there's Breezie the medial mogul and the City Counsel from Silver's future. Still no word on Dr. Nega, though.

 

Plus, some of the Egg Bosses are legitimately evil. Akhlut, Thunderbolt and Maw are the most sadistic of the bunch.



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:05 AM

Honesty, what was Flynn trying to do with the King Naugus/Mecha Sally arc? Outdo X-Men's Dark Phoenix saga? Lot of good that did. And that cosmic reset button. I can just hear Sonic ranting about that.

Sonic: Uh, is this how you end a comic book arc? Is this where we go from here? Okay, Lost Hedgehog Tales better fix this, I'm telling ya right now, 'cause I'm stuck in nowhere land! SEGA told you to do this, didn't they?

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:28 AM

Well to sorta answer your question, Flynn was trying to make Naugus a threat again.  Ever since he teamed up with Mongul, he was literally a drooling lackey.  This also allows Max to stop changing from Good King to Bad King and back again every two to three issues.  

 

And for the Mecha Sally Arc, honestly what's wrong with it (other than going on WAY to long)?  At that point in the story, the Freedom Fighters had become essentially so Powerful, so good at their jobs, there was no threat to their lives.  There's a reason people call Sally a Mary-Sue: anytime she shows a moment of weakness or gets hurt, fans throw tantrums about it "not being in character" or "stupid idea."  So writers tend not to endanger her or the other Freedom Fighters, because they don't want to deal with the backlash.  

But honestly every comic book does this with its characters.  Wolverine is STILL dead.  Spider-Man got replaced by freaking Doc Ock as the main character for a while, after having Kraven the Hunter do it years ago, and don't get me started on the Clone Saga.  Battle for the Cowl was Batman's turn.  Heck Star Wars novels killed Chewbacca off years ago, before they rebooted the universe.  

 

There is a point in comics when your star characters start to feel stale as nothing seems to hinder them.  I'm not saying the solution is good, or even works all the time, but personally, I'd rather see Sally make mistakes, get injured, or cause these issues, than become stale and boring.  



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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:59 PM

Well to sorta answer your question, Flynn was trying to make Naugus a threat again.  Ever since he teamed up with Mongul, he was literally a drooling lackey.  This also allows Max to stop changing from Good King to Bad King and back again every two to three issues.  

 

And for the Mecha Sally Arc, honestly what's wrong with it (other than going on WAY to long)?  At that point in the story, the Freedom Fighters had become essentially so Powerful, so good at their jobs, there was no threat to their lives.  There's a reason people call Sally a Mary-Sue: anytime she shows a moment of weakness or gets hurt, fans throw tantrums about it "not being in character" or "stupid idea."  So writers tend not to endanger her or the other Freedom Fighters, because they don't want to deal with the backlash.  

But honestly every comic book does this with its characters.  Wolverine is STILL dead.  Spider-Man got replaced by freaking Doc Ock as the main character for a while, after having Kraven the Hunter do it years ago, and don't get me started on the Clone Saga.  Battle for the Cowl was Batman's turn.  Heck Star Wars novels killed Chewbacca off years ago, before they rebooted the universe.  

 

There is a point in comics when your star characters start to feel stale as nothing seems to hinder them.  I'm not saying the solution is good, or even works all the time, but personally, I'd rather see Sally make mistakes, get injured, or cause these issues, than become stale and boring.  

To answer your question about the king naugus/mecha sally arc? It had no proper conclusion due to legal issues.



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Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:35 AM

Sonic NYCC 2017 IDW Event: Ian Flynn Confirmed Head Writer Of IDW Comics :)


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:20 PM

That's the best IDW Sonic news we've heard so far.

Pumped for IDW in April 2018! And also the 2019 Sonic movie.

 

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