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[blue]

There are some limitations to this top 3. First of all, no from behind the scenes, no aspects from the current storyline (Sally being roboticized, Geoffery's unexplained Ixis exeprience, Naugus becoming king, etc.), no" it strays away from the SatAM or the SEGA game roots, and it's only on the main comic books, not in the Sonic X comics and the Sonic Universe. So here are my top 3 dumbest moments in the Archie Sonic Comics.
Mobius being the future Earth- I put it there because it looses the fantasy side of the comic. The reason why it's low on the list is because it's suppose to be faithful to the games.
Sally slapping Sonic- This creates unnecessary drama to the comic and its fanbase and is it just me or that slap is a bit too dark for kids(I know there are slaps in American children's media, but that only works on slapstick, comic relief, mature media, and/or in anime, but that's just me)? Though I do understand why she did this.
Sonic and his friends going to school- This to me is the most dumbest moment I ever seen in the comic. Sonic and school just don't mix well. Karl Bollers, why did you come up with this. This is not a good way for Sonic to give him a break from fighting evil doers.
Well that my top 3, let's here your top ??. I was thinking that I should add Sonic's deus ex machina speed tricks, but it's fiction what are we going to do about it.

To be fair, the SatAM staff was planning that their Mobius was future earth from what I researched a bit earlier.

[RedAuthar]

Yeah but they did it differently.

[Gojira007]

And more importantly, they never actually got around to it, for which I am eternally grateful. I have NEVER liked the idea of Mobius-as-Future-Earth, either in Archie OR SatAM.

[RedAuthar]

Agreed.

[blue]

And more importantly, they never actually got around to it, for which I am eternally grateful. I have NEVER liked the idea of Mobius-as-Future-Earth, either in Archie OR SatAM.

Me too because I like Mobius as a different planet, but it's too late now since this is impossible to retcom it.

[Keen Bean]

There are some limitations to this top 3. First of all, no from behind the scenes, no aspects from the current storyline (Sally being roboticized, Geoffery's unexplained Ixis exeprience, Naugus becoming king, etc.), no" it strays away from the SatAM or the SEGA game roots, and it's only on the main comic books, not in the Sonic X comics and the Sonic Universe. So here are my top 3 dumbest moments in the Archie Sonic Comics.
Mobius being the future Earth- I put it there because it looses the fantasy side of the comic. The reason why it's low on the list is because it's suppose to be faithful to the games.
Sally slapping Sonic- This creates unnecessary drama to the comic and its fanbase and is it just me or that slap is a bit too dark for kids(I know there are slaps in American children's media, but that only works on slapstick, comic relief, mature media, and/or in anime, but that's just me)? Though I do understand why she did this.
Sonic and his friends going to school- This to me is the most dumbest moment I ever seen in the comic. Sonic and school just don't mix well. Karl Bollers, why did you come up with this. This is not a good way for Sonic to give him a break from fighting evil doers.
Well that my top 3, let's here your top ??. I was thinking that I should add Sonic's deus ex machina speed tricks, but it's fiction what are we going to do about it.

To be fair, the SatAM staff was planning that their Mobius was future earth from what I researched a bit earlier.

I wonder how long it would have taken them to get in to that. I read the same thing somewhere, but Hurst never really mentioned it in the notes that were posted here not too long ago (or at least I don't remember it being mentioned). I'm neutral on the future-Earth thing, I think it's a odd idea, but it's also kind of cool at the same time.

[LogiTeeka]

I personally like Mobius being the future Earth. It may sound far-fetched, but it makes the most sense. I mean, how can sentient Earthling creatures evolve on a separate planet?

If Mobius was maybe an alternate Earth (like in Sonic X or the Fleetway series), the "seprate world" theory would probably make more sense. In fact, the early Archie issues state that Mobius takes place in an alternate reality. If this fact still applies to the current series, I don't see what the big issue is.

Also, if Earth = Mobius, would "Planet Freedom" be the Overlanders' name for the planet? Just a random thought.

[Vampfox]

Mobius = Earth (Never liked the idea to begin with. I guess it explains the 'nationality' of certain characters,

It really doesn't explain the nationality of the characters. If Mobius is our world in the future then English and French should be dead languages.

[RedAuthar]

I personally like Mobius being the future Earth. It may sound far-fetched, but it makes the most sense. I mean, how can sentient Earthling creatures evolve on a separate planet?

How can Sonic run at high speeds without burning up?

It's the same concept of watching anything with anthropomorphic animals. They just exist. No need for an explanation.

[LogiTeeka]

I personally like Mobius being the future Earth. It may sound far-fetched, but it makes the most sense. I mean, how can sentient Earthling creatures evolve on a separate planet?

How can Sonic run at high speeds without burning up?

It's the same concept of watching anything with anthropomorphic animals. They just exist. No need for an explanation.

Then I guess there's no point in calling him a "hedgehog"; especially since he hardly resembles one.

But I digress. Yeah, I know Sonic is a fantasy series; but with other fantasy series, there's at least some explanation for the setting. In "The Chronicles of Narnia", the land of Narnia exists in an alternate universe; Middle Earth in "The Hobbit" and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy takes place in Earth's distant past; and the "Star Wars" series takes place in another galaxy. If there's no good explanation, it confuses the reader.

If the series isn't meant to be taken seriously (like "Looney Tunes"), then there's no need of explanation. The reason why didn't I place the Sonic series under this category is because there's multiple continuities, thus different versions. Plus, everyone seems to treat it seriously.

[RedAuthar]

According to the comics all it took was a nuclear holocaust.

[furrykef]

I personally like Mobius being the future Earth. It may sound far-fetched, but it makes the most sense. I mean, how can sentient Earthling creatures evolve on a separate planet?

While I can certainly appreciate this question (I pretty much have the same problem with a story universe of my own) it's not as if saying "it's future Earth" magically solves everything or indeed much of anything. Any explanation you could think of would probably not be any less contrived than "the other planet just exhibited convergent evolution" or something -- in other words it's going to be horribly contrived whether it's another planet or not.

Like the nuclear holocaust thing RedAuthar mentioned. I'm pretty sure I shouldn't even have to explain why that is a dumb idea.

[zelchias]

TEchnically it wasn't a nuclear holocaust, it was done through 'gene bombing'.... which is still an extremely ridiculous take on the 'Mobius is Earth' take on Mobius origins.

[furrykef]

That makes even less sense.

[zelchias]

Less sense then the old chestnut of nuclear radiation causing prompting mutations and evolutions? Stupid as the Gene Bomb thing is, it is marginally, MARGINALLY more sensible then the use of radiation to explain everything. Of course, neither explanation really covers the fact that apparrantly the dinosaurs came back on Mobius and then promptly became extinct again, and as implied by Mogul's existence the Ice Age creatures similarly came and went. All of this within the span of 12,000 years. I can accept a lot of screwy sci-fi pseudo explanations, I really can, but this is where things really start to push it.

[RedAuthar]

Gene-bomb is a fancy way of saying "Nuclear-bomb" without offending people.

[PuffinGrandeur]

No, the gene bomb actually was something different. Sonic the Hedgehog used nukes all the time.

[RedAuthar]

No, the gene bomb actually was something different. Sonic the Hedgehog used nukes all the time.

Okay you got me there, however it's still a nuke. There are many types of Nukes (Atomic, Hydrogen, etc.), so I would Gene is one too.

[zelchias]

Indeed. Eggman was perfectly happy to deploy nukes against his enemies at the time Sonic returned to Mobius, not to mention Robotropolis was successfully nuked by Station Square, and then you've got the nuclear devastation that prompted the Echidna to leave for another zone in the first place... this comic has never been shy about the idea of nuclear warfare.

Though considering it ultimately all leads back to 'Pissed Off Squids DId It'.... it all becomes ridiculous no matter the terminology.

[furrykef]

Less sense then the old chestnut of nuclear radiation causing prompting mutations and evolutions? Stupid as the Gene Bomb thing is, it is marginally, MARGINALLY more sensible then the use of radiation to explain everything.

I don't know, at least the idea of nuclear radiation mutating genes is something known to exist in the real world (even if it doesn't work like it does in comics). "Gene bomb" sounds like something some writer pulled out of his ass, likely because that's exactly what it was.