If Amy Rose had been in Sally's place, how would the show change? Would we have more of a Japanese style show or do you think Amy could've become an interesting character from the get go?
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What if Amy Rose took Sally's place?
Started by SatAMHOG, Apr 28 2008 01:56 PM
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:56 PM
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 03:11 PM
No. I think her character does not fit the mood of the show at all. Not at all. She would have to tweeked some to make it work. For one, she could still like Sonic, but it would have to be toned down some. You know, make it so we know about it, but small enough so its not getting in the way of things. Another thing she would have to change is the...well she would have to have some talent other then a big mallet. Something we could use. There is a lot I would like to change about her, but the more we change, the less she will be like her and more like someone else. So it is only fair to say its better not have to her around at all.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:09 PM
I don't think I'd have watched SatAM if that happened to be honest lol. I don't hate Amy, but she doesn't fit the show at all...unless it were more like AoStH, or unless they did serious revamping and somehow Amy became more mature than child-like as she is.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:35 PM
If she was left in her current form she would stick out like a sore thumb, luckily I know how to modify her
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 12:44 AM
It just wouldn't fit unless they made some major changes, in which case it wouldn't really be Amy then anymore.
I've always prefered Sally anyway, but that's probably because I've always liked the SATAM storyline way more than any other Sonic story.
I've always prefered Sally anyway, but that's probably because I've always liked the SATAM storyline way more than any other Sonic story.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:48 AM
I think the problem with trying to incorporate Amy into the show in Sally's place is that Sally defines herself through herself, but Amy defines herself through Sonic. Nearly every character in SatAM was very independantly created.
Adding Amy to the mix would effectively create a second Antoine. And while I liked Antoine in the first season, and was okay with him in the second, two people who had an obsessive crush would've been overkill.
Adding Amy to the mix would effectively create a second Antoine. And while I liked Antoine in the first season, and was okay with him in the second, two people who had an obsessive crush would've been overkill.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:39 AM
It would be horrendous.
Amy's a fine character, but having her in place of Sally would have degraded the show's quality. Sally, voiced with Kath Soucie, was a character with a perfect trifecta of maturity, patience, and a tinge of sex appeal. And with that, Sally's character played off well against the slightly immature, brash, and suave Sonic that Jaleel White gave him.
Call me stubborn, but any other character matched up against Sonic in that show would have failed, regardless of chraracter or voice actor.
Amy's a fine character, but having her in place of Sally would have degraded the show's quality. Sally, voiced with Kath Soucie, was a character with a perfect trifecta of maturity, patience, and a tinge of sex appeal. And with that, Sally's character played off well against the slightly immature, brash, and suave Sonic that Jaleel White gave him.
Call me stubborn, but any other character matched up against Sonic in that show would have failed, regardless of chraracter or voice actor.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 06:50 PM
The show probably wouldn't fit to be named SatAm. Sonic SatAm is Sonic SatAm because of it's compelling storyline and interesting characters, all with their strong points and weaknesses. Adding Amy Rose into the mix is like taking a girl from an anime who does nothing but mope and cry.
Oh and if Amy was put into the show with a "Totally Spies!" type personality, well that would be it for me.
Oh and if Amy was put into the show with a "Totally Spies!" type personality, well that would be it for me.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 02:36 AM
If she was anything like Sonic the Comic's take on Amy, she might actually work IMO (Punky hairdo, crossbow etc).
That said, her original form could actually make an interesting oneshot character - rescued by the Freedom Fighters on a mission, she squees herself silly over Sonic, having heard many tales of his bravery, and accidentely puts them all in grave danger. As a permanant Sally replacement, though, I can't see it.
That said, her original form could actually make an interesting oneshot character - rescued by the Freedom Fighters on a mission, she squees herself silly over Sonic, having heard many tales of his bravery, and accidentely puts them all in grave danger. As a permanant Sally replacement, though, I can't see it.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 10:41 AM
Yeah, as a one-shot character she might've been okay. Heck, I could see her as a recurrent character without having to change the show too much. I just couldn't see her ineteracting with Nicole or planning the missions like Sally does.
If she were to be altered enough to fit the mold of the show while still making her "Amy," I could actually see her as a sort of melee fighter character. She's impulsive and acts before thinking, so jumping into a fray wouldn't be out of the question. Just get rid of that gigantic hammer before doing so, and I'd be okay, I think.
If she were to be altered enough to fit the mold of the show while still making her "Amy," I could actually see her as a sort of melee fighter character. She's impulsive and acts before thinking, so jumping into a fray wouldn't be out of the question. Just get rid of that gigantic hammer before doing so, and I'd be okay, I think.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 10:51 AM
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What if Amy Rose took Sally's place?
I'd change the channel.
In all seriousness, Amy Rose possesses about as much potential as a Model T trying to compete in a Nascar race. Could she replace Sally? Nah. Could she serve as dramatic cannon fodder? You betcha mah life-ah!
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 06:39 PM
If Amy took Sally's place, I'd smash my TV with a clawhammer really fast.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 10:27 PM
My best bet is that the show wouldn't be the same with her. So long as she acted stereotypical.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 03:30 AM
I would have to agree that the show wouldn't be the same, and of course I mean that it would be worse. Her character doesn't fit, IMO.
It's already great with Sally; she's kind, and caring, yet tough and firm when she needs to be. She thinks things through, then acts, while Sonic is more impulsive. She's a perfect foil for him.
It's already great with Sally; she's kind, and caring, yet tough and firm when she needs to be. She thinks things through, then acts, while Sonic is more impulsive. She's a perfect foil for him.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 02:13 PM
What if it were the Fleetway Amy Rose?
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:12 AM
Essentially what I would say has already been covered in this thread.
There's a very strong culture influence on each of the two characters; Sally appeals to western audiences because she does have that maturity, intellect and the body of an adult female (keep an eye out for the scenes where she's viewed from side-on, and there's the tiniest forward aspect of her yellow chest in front of her arm - there's one such scene in "Hooked on Sonics" when Sonic reports Antoine missing). As I've mentioned in another thread, Amy is a standard Anime girl; neither mature in personality nor body, overly-cute and overly emotional.
If Amy were present in Satam you could expect that she'd need to be continually rescued after being caught. If she REPLACED Sally you can expect that Sonic would have his hands full trying to keep ALL his friends from being captured.
If there's anyone out there who has the time and skill to create some Sally vs Amy fanfics I'd be enthralled, particularly if the girls compete romantically over sonic.
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Sally, voiced with Kath Soucie, was a character with a perfect trifecta of maturity, patience, and a tinge of sex appeal. And with that, Sally's character played off well against the slightly immature, brash, and suave Sonic that Jaleel White gave him.
That sums it up nicely. I find that Sally was a born leader, highly intelligent and with expert technical knoweldge. I don't see these things in Amy.QUOTE ("Afgncaap5":3sw8vqz9)
She's impulsive and acts before thinking, so jumping into a fray wouldn't be out of the question. Just get rid of that gigantic hammer before doing so, and I'd be okay, I think. Yeah, as a one-shot character she might've been okay. Heck, I could see her as a recurrent character without having to change the show too much. I just couldn't see her ineteracting with Nicole or planning the missions like Sally does.
An equally excellent summary of Amy, and pretty much what I would have said myself.There's a very strong culture influence on each of the two characters; Sally appeals to western audiences because she does have that maturity, intellect and the body of an adult female (keep an eye out for the scenes where she's viewed from side-on, and there's the tiniest forward aspect of her yellow chest in front of her arm - there's one such scene in "Hooked on Sonics" when Sonic reports Antoine missing). As I've mentioned in another thread, Amy is a standard Anime girl; neither mature in personality nor body, overly-cute and overly emotional.
If Amy were present in Satam you could expect that she'd need to be continually rescued after being caught. If she REPLACED Sally you can expect that Sonic would have his hands full trying to keep ALL his friends from being captured.
If there's anyone out there who has the time and skill to create some Sally vs Amy fanfics I'd be enthralled, particularly if the girls compete romantically over sonic.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:51 AM
amy would take away from SatAM, rather than contribute to it. immaturity and "cuteness" seem to rule in japan, and i'm just glad that Sally was in SatAM over that pink-furred abomination
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:00 PM
She couldn't be the fan girl that she is now. If you're talking about how Amy Rose was back in Sonic CD, where she played as the damsel in distress, then it's possible the show would work with her. But she would need a personality that suits the fans well, something that everyone can relate to, but also give us something in her to look up to. Such as...well, get rid of all the stalking.
But since Sally came around, no one in their right mind seem to ever want to replace her. She's the kind of girl most guys would want, and she's the kind of girl that girls want to be like.
But since Sally came around, no one in their right mind seem to ever want to replace her. She's the kind of girl most guys would want, and she's the kind of girl that girls want to be like.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 04:33 AM
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She's the kind of girl most guys would want, and she's the kind of girl that girls want to be like.
Is that generally true? She fits a certain precise type of sci-fi/fantasy heroine, actually: intelligent, mildly tomboyish and (theoretically) capable of taking care of herself, yet with a well-meaning but ineffectual father and, when the chips are down, a damsel in need of rescuing at the hands of the buttkicking young male protagonist, who comes in and replaces the void of authority and power left by her father. Cf. Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars-foster father Bail Organa applies), Alyx Vance (Half-Life 2). I think this type appeals specifically to socially awkward nerd/geek males who are nervous or embarrassed around the opposite sex. Sally/Leia/Alyx shares enough stereotypically male social traits to interact with you without you being entirely out of your element, and is forceful enough to sort of structure the relationship with you, yet is somehow (mysteriously?) always weak and in need enough not to make you feel "unmanned" in the relationship as it were.
Any thoughts on whether I've got that right?
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