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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself


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#1 Keen Bean

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 12:16 PM

I ran across this today and thought I'd go ahead and share it here. Somebody at BumbleKing posted a complete summary of what happens in 230, along with a few pictures from the issue.

WARNING, THIS WILL COMPLETELY SPOIL ISSUE 230.



1.The issue begins with Sonic floating in a white void as the world begins to regain its true form. As he recaps the events of Genesis, he remembers that the reason he chaos controlled the world back was to have more time to save Sally.
2.The world truly regains its true form as Sonic finds himself in the Death Egg fighting Silver Sonic again.
3.He spins into Silver Sonic, throwing him for a loop, and speeds after Sally just as she is about to enter her fatal corridor.
4.He grabs her and speeds down the corridor, taking her by surprise. Silver Sonic pursues him.
5."Sonic! We're out of time! We've got toooo-OOP!"
6."Way ahead of you, Sal!"
7.They come to the very turret that once doomed Sally.
8."Sonic! There's a--!"
9."Just like I said..."
10.He speeds around the turret, leaving it to fire on Silver Sonic instead of Sally.
11."...way ahead of you, Sal."
12.Sally is a bit frazzled.
13."What's the matter? Too much awesome condensed into one moment?"
14."...no, it's...it's not that..."
15.She looks at the computer display on one of the corridor's walls to find the words "Hi Sal" written instead of numbers or data.
16."...it's nothing. Keep moving."
17.Elsewhere, Eggman has just pressed the reset button only for nothing to happen.
18."WHY ISN'T IT WORKING? SNIVELY! Why isn't the cosmic reset button resetting the cosmos?"
19."I-I-I don't know, sir! I'm not reading any problems! It's just...not working?"
20.Eggman is enraged.
21."RRRAGRAGARGRGRGARGGH! How am I supposed to robotize a completely helpless and rebooted world if it's not helplessly rebooted?!"
22."D-Don't you mean "Roboticized," sir?"
23."SHUT IT! I was so close! And then that stupid Hedgehog...!"
24.He realizes something.
25."...Hedgehog..."
26.He regains his calm demeanor.
27."Of course. The chaos is the constant. I remember now. Stupid golden rodent."
28.He heads to his Egg Mobile.
29."The day is not lost! Snively! What's the status of stage 2?"
30."Primed and...and ready to fire, sir. But Sonic and the Princess are on their way down to the..."
31."Not to worry, Snively. There's no way they can stop me this time."
32.Eggman leaves.
33.Elsewhere, Sonic and Sally are in a room with a large computer console.
34.Sally finds that most of the Death Egg's power is being redirected to the deck below. She asks Nicole if she had any idea what it is, but Nicole says that she couldn't get much information with Eggman's security systems in place.
35.Nicole says that she'll need more time to find out what's below the deck, but Sally says that that's the one thing they don't have and that they'll just have to go down and see for themselves.
36.She opens an elevator down to the deck below, but Sonic stops her.
37."Hold it! Hidden cannon inspection!"
38.He searches the elevator for traps and comes out when he can't find any.
39.Sally thinks to herself.
40."...Hidden cannon..."
41."Yeah. Like the one in the hall...why?"
42.Sally straightens her vest and heads into the elevator.
43."Just pre-mission jitters. I'm fine."
44."If you say so..."
45.The two enter the elevator and exit to the deck below to find a huge machine in the middle of a room.
46."Yowza!"
47."That looks like a giant roboticizer!"
48.Eggman lowers from the top of the room in his Egg Mobile, slowly clapping.
49."A WORLD roboticizer, to be precise."
50.Sonic begins laughing at Eggman.
51."PSSSSSSSSSSSSHT! HA HA HA HA HA! And here I thought we had something to worry about! You remember those aliens that snagged us a while back? When they deroboticized everyone, they made sure it was for keeps!"
52."Yes, yes. Those troublesome Bem. They re-wrote the rules of the game. But I changed them BACK. Surely you noticed the flash of light? The momentary disorientation? That was just phase one!"
53."You're bluffing."
54."Everything DID reset...right...?"
55."I heard that. Regardless, do you recall, dear Princess, what happens when you try to roboticize something that's ALREADY mechanical?"
56.Sonic is confused.
57."What's he talking about?"
58."When I tricked him into roboticizing my auto automaton double. Oh, no..."
59.Sally gets a grim look on her face.
60."THAT'S RIGHT! It explodes! All of G.U.N.'s forces! All of the united federation blown back to the stone age. HA HA HA HA HA!"
61.Eggman motions to a video screen showing New Mobotropolis.
62."And let's not forget New Mobotropolis! There goes your precious nanite-made city!"
63.Sonic and Sally ponder the grim outcomes.
64."...Dad..."
65."Bunnie...and Nicole...!"
66."Okay, I take back the laughing."
67.Sally realizes something.
68."Wait! You'll destroy every chapter of your Dark Egg Legion!"
69."What's your point? I'll have millions of robot slaves to rebuild my robot army. Besides...you can't man an omelet without breaking a few Dark Egg Legionnaires."
70.Sonic jumps into action.
71."I never should've shown you a shred of mercy, you sick--!"
72.Metal Sonic appears and slams into Sonic, stopping him from harming Eggman.
73."Ah-ah-ah! Language, rodent!"
74."Hrk! Okay! I'm officially getting tired of Metal Sonics!"
75.He kicks Metal Sonic away.
76."I don't really have time to mess with--"
77.A damaged Silver Sonic appears behind him.
78."--you."
79.Sonic battles the two while Eggman looks on.
80."HA HA HA! Having trouble, rodent? No words of encouragement, Prin--? Blast it! Where did she go?!"
81.Eggman unleashes several weapons from within his Egg Mobile as he searches for Sally.
82."I'll tolerate the Hedgehog causing problems. That's just a fact of life. But YOU aren't allowed to interfere with--"
83.Suddenly, Sonic spins into the Egg Mobile, causing Eggman to fly out of it.
84."I know you've got a plan, Sal! I'll try to keep these guys busy while you save the day!"
85.Elsewhere, Sally is under one of the floor tiles in the room just out of Eggman's sight.
86.Sally asks Nicole if she's patched into the network and Nicole says that she is, but Eggman's security is still to strong to break without time.
87."We have minutes. Can we block the command signal? Confuse start-up processes?"
88."No. I am locked out, and it is ready to fire. I could potentially INVERT the beam, to this EXACT POINT, but..."
89."Do it."
90."But you will not be immune..."
91."Make sure your core programs are safe at home. Just give me a manual executable."
92."But you will be..."
93."Nicole, I've been given a second chance. I can save everyone with that. Please...I can't do this without you."
94.Elsewhere, Sonic is covered by the artificial Sonics.
95."Sal...! If you're gonna do something, do it now!"
96."No more set-backs! Snively! Fire the world roboticizer!"
97.Nicole downloads her core program to the New Mobotropolis server and leaves the execute program for Sally to manually activate. She also leaves the message "Good-bye, my friend."
98.Sally draws a tear, remembers her and Sonic's kiss from StH #50, and presses the button.
99."Good-Bye..."
100.Sonic, Silver Sonic, and Metal Sonic look on in awe as the world roboticizer begins to glow and summons a harsh, blinding wave of light.
101.The World Roboticizer begins to take effect on Metal Sonic, Silver Sonic, and the roboticizer itself, as they begin to explode.
102."NO! NO!!!!"
103.Elsewhere, Tails sees the Death Egg's explosion and flies towards it.
104."Sweet! Sonic and Sally must've done something!"
105.Back at the rubble that was once the room they were in, Snively contacts Eggman.
106."*KZZZT!* You read me, sir?! *KZZT!* There *KZZT!* massive energy leaks in all systems! The roboticizer isn't just off-line--It's gone! *KZZT!* All other systems are still online. No loss in altitude *KZZT!* and the power ring matrix is holding. Barely."
107.Eggman climbs out from under the rubble.
108."I guess the old immunity wasn't reset after all. Oh, please...please tell me that finished him off."
109.Sonic falls into the rubble beside him.
110."No. Of course not."
111.Sonic gets to his feet and presents Eggman with Metal's severed head.
112."Hey, look. We win again."
113.Eggman has completely lost his patience. He grabs a sharp pipe and points it at Sonic.
114."Not...yet! You're still...you're still on my turf, rodent...and...and..."
115.Sonic spins into him, leaving him barely conscious on the floor.
116."Dude, come on. We win. I'm gonna find Sally. Then we're destroying your dumb egg. Then I'm stomping on Naugus. And then the two of you can rot in a cell. And then I'm gonna eat a million chili dogs. And then..."
117.Suddenly, an imposing metal fist rises from the rubble behind Sonic.
118.Sonic looks on in horror while Eggman looks pleased as punch.
119."...oh, no, oh, no, oh, no, NO!"
120."Ah...ah-ha! Ha-Ha-Ha! HAHAHAHA!"
121.The story ends with the metal fist being revealed to belong to the newborn Mecha Sally.
122."Hedgehog. Priority one."
123.The Generations story is basically the intro with a part added to the end. Friends surprise Sonic with a Birthday party, Time Eater sucks everyone up, Sonic wakes up in a white space, finds a portal to Green Hill, rushes into it, and the story ends with Classic Sonic looking at him as he jumps into the portal. There's no interaction between the two.
124.Also, there's a hilarious off-panel strip where Metal Sonic proposes to Mecha Sally and Eggman marries them off, warranting Sonic to want the universe reset again. xD


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#2 bwrosas

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 12:48 PM

She's smiling before it happens, obviously not going to last long. And it's leading to 250? Duh! Who didn't see that coming

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:28 PM

Eggman finished what Robotnik from Satam failed to do twice....roboticize sally. CURSE YOU NEW EGGMAN!

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:30 PM

So Sally ends up sacrificing herself...

Uh huh, just as I thought she would.

And of course, it was done with a plothole too.

Good old Ian, never fails to deliver on that point.

Seriously, if the machine blew up, how could it have roboticized Sally?

And secondly, could she not have gotten out of its targeted ranged before it fired invertedly?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:32 PM

And if sonic saved her from death, WHY IN THE NAME OF JUDECCA DOES SHE SACRIFICE HERSELF ANYWAY?!!
IAN KILLED HER! IAN MADE HER STOOPIT!!

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:37 PM

All I can say is Ian MAJORLY Step in
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:39 PM

WHY IAN?! WHYYYYYY(SHOOTS SELF.
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You guys are really killing my stand-ins.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:44 PM

All I can say is Ian MAJORLY Step in

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No doubt.

What makes this issue even more of a disappointment is the fact the other Freedom Fighters who joined them on the mission didn't even get a chance to help out, which I believe very well
should have happened.

I mean, what was the point of showing Bunnie, Amy and Antoine in 225 if they weren't eventually going to get inside the Death Egg too?

And worse yet, how is it Sonic wasn't affected or even roboticized too for that matter since the waves hit the Sonic robots around him and blew them up?

Well done, Ian. You making us wait 5 months to see the aftermath of Sally's fate was definitely worth it.

NOT! :shake:
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:50 PM

DEATH TO THE IAN!

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:54 PM

Why didn't Sally just blow up the reactor?
This is like stopping the Death Star from firing by having it shoot Luke instead.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 03:37 PM

And worse yet, how is it Sonic wasn't affected or even roboticized too for that matter since the waves hit the Sonic robots around him and blew them up?


Sonic's immune. Anybody who was deroboticized by the BEM is completely immune to roboticization.

But Sally wasn't. Also, 225's story isn't over yet, the Death Egg is still RIGHT THERE floating above New Mobotropolis.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:17 PM

Sonic's immune. Anybody who was deroboticized by the BEM is completely immune to roboticization.

But Sally wasn't. Also, 225's story isn't over yet, the Death Egg is still RIGHT THERE floating above New Mobotropolis.


That still doesn't explain why Sally didn't just blow up the reactor, as Shadow mentioned earlier.

Why did she have to have the weapon point at her?

Were there really no other options?

Anyway, you can criticize the MIA idea I came up with all you want, but Ian's idea of Sally having suffer was no better. In fact, it was a huge letdown.

All that build up just so she turns the ray so it ends up hitting her instead in an anti-climatic sacrifice.

Pathetic. :thumbsdown:
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:53 PM

Blow it up with what? This wasn't done with a weapon. This was NICOLE hacking into Eggman's roboticizer and having the beam implode upon itself. She DID blow up the reactor, which made a local explosion of the machine. That's what roboticized her.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

Why not disable power flow to it and shut it down, and hack an override activation key into it to prevent further use?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:58 PM

Oh look it's something stated even in this summary.

86.Sally asks Nicole if she's patched into the network and Nicole says that she is, but Eggman's security is still to strong to break without time.
87."We have minutes. Can we block the command signal? Confuse start-up processes?"
88."No. I am locked out, and it is ready to fire. I could potentially INVERT the beam, to this EXACT POINT, but..."

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:00 PM

(Reed jumps in and commences banging on the reactor with a wrench)

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:33 PM

The only thing she could hit it with was... NICOLE. And I don't think that'd do much.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:34 PM

(Grabs NICOLE from sally and proceeds to bang on it to see if it works)

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:43 PM

Oh look it's something stated even in this summary.

86.Sally asks Nicole if she's patched into the network and Nicole says that she is, but Eggman's security is still to strong to break without time.
87."We have minutes. Can we block the command signal? Confuse start-up processes?"
88."No. I am locked out, and it is ready to fire. I could potentially INVERT the beam, to this EXACT POINT, but..."


Summary #87 makes me think there were other options for Sally to do.

It clearly says, we have minutes, meaning it wasn't like the device was going to fire within 10 seconds or so.

So yea, I'm still calling it a cop out.

Sally had time for other options, but Ian of course didn't want to explore them since he wanted her to end up roboticized.

And then he even makes a joke about it later on showing her and Metal Sonic getting married.

Ridicoulous... :thumbsdown:
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:33 PM

I can't comment on plotholes or how the Genesis arc lead to this, but I actually have to give Ian some points for going in a relatively gutsy direction.

Even if this all leads to things being restored to normal by issue 250 (and I'm confident it will), this creates some actual emotional drama, which is usually what Ian's stories lack.

Hopefully he follows it up well.




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