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[Shadow]

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[LaserX5]

Yep.

I thought Ian might make keep a lid on the secrets surrounding 232 since 231 caused such a buzz among Sonic fans.

[bwrosas]

Well, whatever Ian does, he better ready for some Major League Backlash. Because even if it ends right, he's still going to get Backlash from fans, basically asking him what the hell was he thinking. And if it ends wrong, then Heaven help him.

Honorstly, I think this is possibly a big fan fic. that he has been planning to do since before he joined the comic and now he's gotten he's golden chance.

[DCC]

Yeah, I know I am getting tired of the suspense.

[bwrosas]

Sonic 232 Description, which you may not want to read, but what does it really mean? I mean why have a ? on you cover, and put this description for the issue up, it doesn't make sense. :

http://www.archiecom...rk-tidings.html

[DCC]

Either way, I think I have had it with Ian. I think it might be time to ask for a new writer and editor as well.

[RedAuthar]

When you have a comic published monthly, you can only keep things in suspense for so long before it get's old.

However on the other hand it's too early to reveal too much about this issue so it is suspected.

[LaserX5]

http://www.archiecomics.com/blog/news/2011/09/dark-tidings.html

Sonic and Knuckles compare notes and commiserate over a fallen Sally?

What the heck? Did Ian actually just come out clean and say in not so many words that he bumped her off?

Plus, guess I found out the word commiserate means.

1. Express or feel sympathy or pity; sympathize
- she went over to commiserate with Rose on her unfortunate circumstances

2. Feel, show, or express pity for (someone)
- she did not exult in her rival's fall, but, on the contrary, commiserated her.

Even the word "fallen" could have a double meaning.

Is he meaning Sally has turned evil or was she killed?

You know what... I don't know why I even care anymore. I think this issue confirms my earlier suspicions.

Ian hates Sally. No doubt about it now.

And the fact Amy is going to be beneficiary in the upcoming issues really leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth.

Congrats, Ian, you just showed your true colors all of us.

[bwrosas]

Yet "Fallen" could mean any of the terms you said, Paul said her story would contunie, and if you look on archiesonic.wikia.com the listing of future issues to come goes up to 250,so what's that tell ya?

Paul even said that Sally had a "Jean Grey" Syndrome to her.

And again, why put these cover preview with a ? on it and then put the description that came out today, it doesn't add up.

[LaserX5]

Yet "Fallen" could mean any of the terms you said, Paul said her story would continue, and if you look on archiesonic.wikia.com the listing of future issues to come goes up to 250,so what's that tell ya?

Paul even said that Sally had a "Jean Grey" Syndrome to her.

And again, why put these cover preview with a ? on it and then put the description that came out today, it doesn't add up.

Yes, I heard that from Paul.

But I don't believe anything those at Archie say anymore.

Ian lied to us about Other-M's involvement within the comic, so why would Paul tell the truth about this?

As for asking why put a ? and then show that description later?

I can only think of one reason.

Because Ian wants to keep his secret about this as long as possible before revealing what we pretty much know by now.

I mean, a fallen Sally?

How stupid does he think we are?

He just admitted he either killed off Sally or had her turn evil, whether that be by roboticization, legionization, or some other method not thought of yet.

I don't see any other logical explanation.

As for Nicole, there's a very good chance she's in that robot shown on the cover of 231.

So, either way you slice it, Ian intentionally screwed Sally, probably Nicole too.

I know it hasn't been released yet, but there's just no way I see Sally is getting out of this without something dramatic happening to her.

[bwrosas]

Yet "Fallen" could mean any of the terms you said, Paul said her story would continue, and if you look on archiesonic.wikia.com the listing of future issues to come goes up to 250,so what's that tell ya?

Paul even said that Sally had a "Jean Grey" Syndrome to her.

And again, why put these cover preview with a ? on it and then put the description that came out today, it doesn't add up.

Yes, I heard that from Paul.

But I don't believe anything those at Archie say anymore.

Ian lied to us about Other-M's involvement within the comic, so why would Paul tell the truth about this?

As for asking why put a ? and then show that description later?

I can only think of one reason.

Because Ian wants to keep his secret about this as long as possible before revealing what we pretty much know by now.

I mean, a fallen Sally?

How stupid does he think we are?

He just admitted he either killed off Sally or had her turn evil, whether that be by roboticization, legionization, or some other method not thought of yet.

I don't see any other logical explanation.

As for Nicole, there's a very good chance she's in that robot shown on the cover of 231.

So, either way you slice it, Ian intentionally screwed Sally, probably Nicole too.

I know it hasn't been released yet, but there's just no way I see Sally is getting out of this without something dramatic happening to her.

If you read this off wikipedia's SatAM Site, you may get a clue as to who also may have a hand in this:

In an interview with screen-writer Ben Hurst, he revealed the third season had already been plotted out before the show's cancellation. Upon the request of an eager fanbase, Hurst revealed the unknown villain would be the wizard Ixis Naugus. Robotnik was not killed on Doomsday; rather, he has become trapped within the void as Naugus' prisoner.
Snively would briefly rise to power and assume his uncle's title as oppressive overlord, but quickly fails thanks to Sonic and the Freedom Fighters. Out of desperation, Snively frees Naugus from the void, and in the process also frees Robotnik and King Acorn, though the two have become the wizard's slaves. Naugus immediately usurps the title of main villain and uses King Acorn as bait to try and capture Sally. Snively, reduced to nothing, defects to the side of the Freedom Fighters (which briefly occurred in the Sonic Archie comic storyline).
There would be more developments in the relationship between Sonic and his friend Tails, who discovers an "incredible power" and saves the Freedom Fighters from a "great disaster". It has also been mentioned that Sally would romance someone other than Sonic. The origins of Dr. Robotnik and Snively would also be revealed. Hurst stated that no scripts were written for Season 3. He also stated that he is done trying to produce Season 3 and has given up: he presented the idea to SEGA, but all of his attempts at reviving the cartoon have been ignored.[2] Hurst later passed away after lapsing into a diabetic coma, on August 10, 2010. He was in his mid-50s.[3][4]
This is one of several ABC Children's Programming Shows that has been cancelled and left at a cliffhanger. The first was The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo, which aired in 1985.
According to Ben Hurst's response letter to online personality Sonique of Fans United for SatAM, the show was cancelled because during the time the second season was aired, the producers were in a ratings battle with the Power Rangers which was a powerfully influential TV show at the time: The cartoon didn't pull the ratings required to keep it on the air. Later, Hurst printed a retraction to that statement, (see above, under Reception) stating that the show was forcibly cancelled by SEGA for conceptual reasons.
Another reason the cartoon was cancelled was that the President of ABC Children's Programming was laid off during a merger between ABC and The Walt Disney company, and the new executives had no interest in it[citation needed].

And I think Ian's doing this for the "NEW READERS" to have a jumping in point

[LaserX5]

So...

Sega actually played a part in Sonic Satam being cancelled...

Why am I not surprised?

Their hatred for that cool show has no boundaries.

And I think Ian's doing this for the "NEW READERS" to have a jumping in point

You may be right about this.

Well, Ian can have his "new readers" because this one is just about through.

You don't spit in the faces of those who love characters like Sally and not have some form of recompense.

[blue]

[quote name='LaserX5' timestamp='1316210588' post='62535']
So...

Sega actually played a part in Sonic Satam being cancelled...

Why am I not surprised?

Their hatred for that cool show has no boundaries.

I read a part on the Sonic SatAM of sonicretro.org that SEGA of America didn't like the changes from season 2 and Len Jason, the story editor for the show, was defending Pat Ailee's and Ben Hurst's work from being tampered by third-party help.

[LaserX5]

I read a part on the Sonic SatAM of sonicretro.org that SEGA of America didn't like the changes from season 2 and Len Jason, the story editor for the show, was defending Pat Ailee's and Ben Hurst's work from being tampered by third-party help.

Third party help?

I can only wonder what that means.

Sega demanding their way or threatening to cancel the show no doubt.

[blue]

I read a part on the Sonic SatAM of sonicretro.org that SEGA of America didn't like the changes from season 2 and Len Jason, the story editor for the show, was defending Pat Ailee's and Ben Hurst's work from being tampered by third-party help.

Third party help?

I can only wonder what that means.

Sega demanding their way or canceling the show perhaps?

Most likely Sega demanding their way.

[LaserX5]

Most likely Sega demanding their way.

Definitely.

And I can't help but wonder with horror what they would have demanded DIC to do in regards to making changes to the Sonic Satam show.

As if those meddlers haven't done enough harm demanding their own way about how Sonic should be run.

[bwrosas]

Most likely Sega demanding their way.

Definitely.

And I can't help but wonder with horror what they would have demanded DIC to do in regards to making changes to the Sonic Satam show.

As if those meddlers haven't done enough harm demanding their own way about how Sonic should be run.

More from wiki:

Initially very popular, Sonic the Hedgehog: the Animated Series made and sold more non-videogame merchandise than all other Sonic products combined thru the year 1995. Evidence of this popularity exists in statements made by the writer of Sonic the Hedgehog, issue 50, (the Endgame arc) in which it was implicitly stated that when the show was cancelled, the comic book's sales received a major boost from dedicated fans, preventing the comic from being cancelled, and boosting it into first place as the most popular Archie Publications comic book. Statements by Ben Hurst (the cartoon's secondary editor) in a letter reveal that Sonic the Hedgehog was cancelled for reasons regarding the portrayal of Sonic, not for lack of viewers.
Fans consistently state that the cartoon has dark implications, yet is humorous, and romantic, letting neither humor nor "dark" storytelling or romance supersede other elements of the cartoon until the second season, which is considered by some to be written more logically. Fans almost unanimously state that offbeat humor and/or lackluster character development negatively affect the second season.
It generally receives "good" or "excellent" reviews from non-committal parties, none notable, with the possible exception of Doug Walker, The Nostalgia Critic.

[Prime]

Wait, that stuff was on wikipedia? Really?! Well then in must be true!

[PuffinGrandeur]

Fans consistently state that the cartoon has dark implications, yet is humorous, and romantic, letting neither humor nor "dark" storytelling or romance supersede other elements of the cartoon until the second season, which is considered by some to be written more logically. Fans almost unanimously state that offbeat humor and/or lackluster character development negatively affect the second season.
It generally receives "good" or "excellent" reviews from non-committal parties, none notable, with the possible exception of Doug Walker, The Nostalgia Critic.

Oh, wiki. It's so obvious that anybody who wants can edit you.

[LaserX5]

Oh, wiki. It's so obvious that anybody who wants can edit you.

Don't they usually get rid of false information though after awhile?

But anyway, I would like to see another link or more proof than just by wiki site since it is true wiki can be edited by just about anyone.