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[LaserX5]

SPOILER ALERT: It was that way in the 90's too.

I never said it didn't happen in the 90's.

What I'm implying though the quality of shows in that decade compared the 2000's and on was much better.

I could name alot of tv shows in the 90's that were really good.

I can't say the same about the 21st Century.

[Mithrandir]

This seems pretty straight forward to me: Sally's apparent death is a cliff hanger, and if the heroes win in the Genesis arc she'll get better and won't die.

So yeah, I fully expect her to be alive. I really don't think there's much of a mystery here.

I DO find the "when is it OK to kill a character?" discussion to be interesting, though. A big reason why I have a hard time getting into a lot of TV series is because I feel that notion of "Who will die next?!" pervades too much, to the point where it stops having much emotional weight. Character death is supposed to be the ultimate emotion invoker, so it's best used sparingly and/or effectively, not all willy-nilly just to make whoever the current big-bad is look really mean. It needs to have meaning, it needs to have consequence, it can't just happen for a cheap thrill to the readers/viewers/etc.

[LaserX5]

Gotta agree on that.

Killing off characters is a very risky decision for the writer.

Unless a writer can prove them being killed was for the best in terms of story development and moving the plot forward, killing off characters IMO is completely unnecessary.

Of course, since this is a comic about Mobians fighting a war against Robotnik, death is something that does happen as part of the price for achieving peace.

So I guess the question is, what characters can be afford to be axed, and which ones can't?

[RedAuthar]

So I guess the question is, what characters can be afford to be axed, and which ones can't?

You'd think based on how bad Sally's death went over in the past it wouldn't go over much better now.

[LaserX5]

You'd think based on how bad Sally's death went over in the past it wouldn't go over much better now.

My point exactly.

Sally's death was heavily criticized by fans during Endgame, proving she was too valuable to kill off.

But then again, Sega had alot to do with that too, and I can't help but wonder if they're the main culprits, making the comic unrightfully give Sally the ax.

Well if they did, I hope the comic loses alot of its fans, as a sign of their indignation at this ridiculous move.

Hopefully it won't come to this and it's just Ian trying to throw another smoke and mirrors move on us.

I have to admit though, these issues shrouded in mystery on his part are really getting kinda of annoying. I don't mind suspense from time to time, but Ian seems to thrive on it. Whatever happened to just surprising the fanbase without actually letting them know something big could be on the horizon?

[Reed Teran]

(Sob) I can't believe this. As a kid, I would spend months reading my gigantic collection of sonic comics, and now that this happened, ALL THOSE YEARS ARE KAPUT!!! I know this may be odd, but, next to tails, sal was my 2nd favorite character, and now that she died,(sobsob) MY CHILDHOOD IS RUIIINED!!!!RUINED!!

[Ther2view]

(Sob) I can't believe this. As a kid, I would spend months reading my gigantic collection of sonic comics, and now that this happened, ALL THOSE YEARS ARE KAPUT!!! I know this may be odd, but, next to tails, sal was my 2nd favorite character, and now that she died,(sobsob) MY CHILDHOOD IS RUIIINED!!!!RUINED!!

Don't cry, little Reed, Sally is made up of the hopes and dreams of little children around the world! If we truly believe she may, just maybe, return to us! Say it with me people:
I do believe in Sally! I do believe in Sally! I do believe in Sally!

[Reed Teran]

I BELIEVE IN SALLY! I BELIEVE IN SALLY! I-(immediately looks at door and sees a red tf2 soldier) I really don't think that works(soldier: I am painis cupcake. I will eat you.) CURSE YOU THER2VIEW FOR TRYIIIIIING!(painis cupcake: AAAGHAAGHAAAAAAH!)

[LaserX5]

(Sob) I can't believe this. As a kid, I would spend months reading my gigantic collection of sonic comics, and now that this happened, ALL THOSE YEARS ARE KAPUT!!! I know this may be odd, but, next to tails, sal was my 2nd favorite character, and now that she died,(sobsob) MY CHILDHOOD IS RUIIINED!!!!RUINED!!

I know how you feel.

But on the other hand, her supposed death isn't official yet.

If it ever is, then all of us who care for this character can let Sega, Archie and Ian know what we really think of this move of theirs.

[DCC]

Yes, if by chance Sally is really dead, it hope the conventional wisdom is wrong, that very few fans care about Sally enough. If wrose came to wrose, I hope we can put enough pressure on Archie and Sega to change things. Ian has been taking some heat for this, but my concern is that too many fans(like most at bumbleking) are supportive of him. Even though some fans have probably been over the top, I hope negative fan reaction will be enough for Ian, Archie, and Sega to back out of it if they are really planning on killing Sally off. I didn't mind things like Sonic #175, though some thought it was too kid friendly, I am an adult but I am attached to many of the Sonic Sat a.m. characters and don't want to see them killed off so I can tolerate Ian's seemingly kid friendly stuff.

[Valerie Valens]

I have to say the writers do know better than us silly fans, or at least they're suppose to.

Dude, this is Archie we're talking about, the people hired there to write and illustrate are the scrapings at the bottom of the creative barrel. I've read better webcomics. Also, if Ken hadn't pulled a deus ex machina to revive Sally after Endgame, it would have been a far better sendoff.

[LaserX5]

Dude, this is Archie we're talking about, the people hired there to write and illustrate are the scrapings at the bottom of the creative barrel. I've read better web comics.

That statement ironically is very true.

Web comics like Son of Mobius and Tales of the Great War are more interesting to read than what Archie usually gives us. Of course, this has alot to do with the fact they're trying to be "kid friendly", something that does not work well with a comic about 2 sides fighting a war.

Also, if Ken hadn't pulled a deus ex machina to revive Sally after Endgame, it would have been a far better sendoff.

Maybe... I dunno. I never liked the idea of giving Sally a send off. She should be a character that should never even be considered one to kill off.

[JamesSmith]

Dude, this is Archie we're talking about, the people hired there to write and illustrate are the scrapings at the bottom of the creative barrel. I've read better web comics.

That statement ironically is very true.

Web comics like Son of Mobius and Tales of the Great War are more interesting to read than what Archie usually gives us. Of course, this has alot to do with the fact they're trying to be "kid friendly", something that does not work well with a comic about 2 sides fighting a war.

Also, if Ken hadn't pulled a deus ex machina to revive Sally after Endgame, it would have been a far better sendoff.

Maybe... I dunno. I never liked the idea of giving Sally a send off. She should be a character that should never even be considered one to kill off.

The death of Princess Sally Acorn is inevitable.

[LaserX5]

The death of Princess Sally Acorn is inevitable.

Only if Sega is determined to through with it.

If so, the comic deserves to lose alot of its fans because there is no logical reason, nor excuse might I add to kill off this popular Sonic character.

[Mithrandir]

I'll repeat: I think it's beyond obvious that Sally survives this.

A big selling point of "Genesis" is that "a life is on the line."

Given the setup, that'd be Sally. If they win in Genesis, she lives.

[LaserX5]

I'll repeat: I think it's beyond obvious that Sally survives this.

A big selling point of "Genesis" is that "a life is on the line."

Given the setup, that'd be Sally. If they win in Genesis, she lives.

Yea, I think this will happen too.

Still, this is still a stupid comic arc.

What's the point in having a cliffhanger and then not showing what happens until almost 5 issues later?

[PuffinGrandeur]

Genesis is not a sidetrack, it's part of the story. It's THROUGH Genesis that we see if she dies or not. Also, not every cliffhanger has to be resolved immediately. The very essence of a cliffhanger, in fact, is making you wait for the answer.

[furrykef]

And the result of the cliffhanger is a foregone conclusion, so what's the point?

[PuffinGrandeur]

Right on this very page, we've got people saying it's obvious that Sally's alive, AND that it's obvious Sally will not live. It may be a foregone conclusion in some sense, but that doesn't stop people from wondering (obviously) and it certainly doesn't stop the story from being interesting seeing as we have no idea what Genesis really is or how it's supposed to be relevant to Sally's fate.

[Inhibitor]

As I was thinking, I figured that another reason why she can't actually be dead is because of the 'Mobius: 25 Years Later' arc. It all has to tie up with what happens there at some point, right? Pardon me if somebody said this before btw