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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself


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Sally Is Dead..................


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#61 bwrosas

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:27 PM

Yes, but according to one poster at one of the sites, he said at the message boards at Bumbleking, that:

For the folks complaining about the lack of "on screen" death:

If he had shown it, we wouldn't be an all-ages book anymore. What happened to Sally was unfit for the eyes of small children and people of weak constitutions



Seriously, is he throwing that at us?! Please! That's just for the more recent and newer readers who have come to like Sally. Hello, clues are in his typing: (small children and people of weak constitutions). I mean why would he say that?, huh. Again if he does go and kill her, that's his decsion, but saying that at Bumbleking, Who does Ian think he's really fooling, the new readers, the long-time readers or himself. Just asking.

The small children I understand, but people with weak constitutions? I don't buy that. Remember Sonic's dad died violently on panel, remember?

And Who's to say she didn't duck? I mean come on, hate on her or not, she's not the kind of character to just stand there and get shot at.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:26 PM

If he had shown it, we wouldn't be an all-ages book anymore. What happened to Sally was unfit for the eyes of small children and people of weak constitutions.


Unfit for eyes of small children? Posted Image

Is Ian unaware of the fact this comic's plot is about a war between the Mobians and Dr.Robotnik? This isn't My Little Pony or the Smurfs for crying out loud! I don't think many small children read this comic series anyway. Posted Image

Seriously, if Ken can show Sally falling to the ground off a building, he should be able to show this as well, if it really did happen that is!

Ian is either getting too soft in his writing, whether that is his choice or Sega forcing him to, or he's trying to camouflage the fact she really didn't die and is throwing the viewers off.
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#63 PuffinGrandeur

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 10:07 PM

Didn't she get shot? Multiple times? Yeah that wouldn't get shown in any writer's run on the book, or on SataM. It is so clearly different from showing a character falling off a building and thumping on the ground it's baffling.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 10:37 PM

Didn't she get shot? Multiple times? Yeah that wouldn't get shown in any writer's run on the book, or on SataM. It is so clearly different from showing a character falling off a building and thumping on the ground it's baffling.

Again, the standards of what's allowed for a childrens medium have gone way up. Just look at Harry Potter, Clone Wars, adventure time and pretty much anything else on cartoon network.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:07 PM

One subsciber (J19Brutous) on my YT channel said this to me about it:

I've heard some people on the forum say that Ian confirmed that no one died/wounded/injured/whatever. I don't think that's true. And If Sally does die explain to me why 25 Years and 30 Years Later exists.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:14 PM

One subsciber (J19Brutous) on my YT channel said this to me about it:

I've heard some people on the forum say that Ian confirmed that no one died/wounded/injured/whatever. I don't think that's true. And If Sally does die explain to me why 25 Years and 30 Years Later exists.


I think it's safe to say the Sonic comic is one messed up series.

At least with Satam it had class and was basically consistent.

But this... I don't even know how to describe it. :tsktsk:

You know, sometimes I wish I never even knew about the comic.
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#67 PuffinGrandeur

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 12:01 AM

Didn't she get shot? Multiple times? Yeah that wouldn't get shown in any writer's run on the book, or on SataM. It is so clearly different from showing a character falling off a building and thumping on the ground it's baffling.

Again, the standards of what's allowed for a childrens medium have gone way up. Just look at Harry Potter, Clone Wars, adventure time and pretty much anything else on cartoon network.


Also look at their ratings. Those are all TV-PG, which would give up the all ages slot Sonic's always had (outside of that one little mishap.) Secret Saturday, Transformers: Animated, Ben 10, or Batman: Brave and the Bold would be better examples, as they're action shows on the network with the TV-Y7 rating, and of course none of those have people being shot to pieces with bullets. Of course, really even a TV-PG might not be enough to show that kind of specific situation as anything other than comical red holes on their torso.

I'm not saying that it had to have happened, but even if it did, we wouldn't be seeing her shot through the spine and sprawled on the floor in the puddle of her own blood. That was just clearly never an option, and it is nothing like having a character go oomph on the ground with a doctor saying "that's bad!"

Also Mobius xx Years Later being the true future was dropped pretty quickly. It's just a possible future/alternate zone.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 01:09 PM

@Archiehaters: If she eventually ends up dead, look on the bright side: if you think Ian is such a bad writer, Sally's been put out of her misery, right?


Would you say that about Bunnie if she was the one he was hinting at killing off?


I cannot answer, because I am not an Archie hater. I was once, not so long ago, but figured there's no point in obsessing with something you hate. Now I just... don't care anymore.

They can kill Bunnie, Sally, or anyone really. Sure, I care for Bunnie (and Sally to, to keep it on-topic), but I don't care for the comic. If she's dead, it means she won't appear in any issue anymore... so why would I mind if I don't read them anyways? I still have the memory of the character when I liked her, and that's a reward I'm very grateful of. I prefer to let bad things slip instead of hating on them, and I wish more people could think that way, but the choice is all theirs.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 02:40 PM

Also look at their ratings. Those are all TV-PG, which would give up the all ages slot Sonic's always had (outside of that one little mishap.) Secret Saturday, Transformers: Animated, Ben 10, or Batman: Brave and the Bold would be better examples, as they're action shows on the network with the TV-Y7 rating, and of course none of those have people being shot to pieces with bullets. Of course, really even a TV-PG might not be enough to show that kind of specific situation as anything other than comical red holes on their torso.

I'm not saying that it had to have happened, but even if it did, we wouldn't be seeing her shot through the spine and sprawled on the floor in the puddle of her own blood. That was just clearly never an option, and it is nothing like having a character go oomph on the ground with a doctor saying "that's bad!"

Also Mobius xx Years Later being the true future was dropped pretty quickly. It's just a possible future/alternate zone


I don't think showing some blood is that traumatizing to young kids, but that's just me. Granted, we don't even know she was shot. The fact only part of the goggles was broken kinda makes me wonder if Ian's camouflaging the whole scene, as a way to get more readers to buy the issue. However, I almost guarantee if it's as bad as I think it looks at first, this comic will lose alot of fans, especially if Ian and Yardley have the audacity to make it cheap and disrespectful.

I cannot answer, because I am not an Archie hater. I was once, not so long ago, but figured there's no point in obsessing with something you hate. Now I just... don't care anymore.

They can kill Bunnie, Sally, or anyone really. Sure, I care for Bunnie (and Sally to, to keep it on-topic), but I don't care for the comic. If she's dead, it means she won't appear in any issue anymore... so why would I mind if I don't read them anyways? I still have the memory of the character when I liked her, and that's a reward I'm very grateful of. I prefer to let bad things slip instead of hating on them, and I wish more people could think that way, but the choice is all theirs.


You do make a good point I have to say.

You know, this comic has done alot of damage to characters like Bunnie and Sally. From issue one to the present, they've deteriorated from the characters we know and love in Satam to ones we don't even know what they are anymore.

Granted, some things they did were kinda cool, like the long hair they gave them both, but other than that, these two really have not been utilized properly.

I guess the main thing that deeply bothers me about all of this is fact I somehow see this move as a way to get Sonic to date Amy now since Sally appears to be dead.

But, as you said, no point in obsessing something you can't change. Sega is determined to corrupt this comic with their SOJ crap, and they don't intend to change that anytime soon.

Perhaps it's best if Satam fans should treat this comic as non canon, because it doesn't deserve to be canonized after all the garbage they put the fans through who've been loyal to this comic since its inception.
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Posted 21 May 2011 - 03:53 PM

Oh God! I just the issue today folks. And from what I read and saw, the hints are there, if you take time to see them.

1. Why is NICOLE featured after Sonic and Sally you open the gatefold, instead of the other freedom fighters?

2. Why does Sally say, they will use Eggman's Egostim to their advantage.

3. Why does Sally have a concerned look on her face, when NICOLE tells her, she's wants to focus on the mission.

4. Why was Eggman worried about Nagus at first.

and finally

5. On the "Sonic Spin" page, why ask if Sally is toast? Did Eggman win? Why is the world turning white? And then say the answers await in "GENESIS"

Ladies and Gents, say what you will over this past week. But you to admit Ian's throwing a bunch of Red herrings to try and throw long time readers and most noteably newer readers off.

The answers to the questions are already there folks in 225, if you keep a good eye out for them.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 04:27 PM

So are you saying you're thinking it's Nicole that might be the one who ends up dead instead of Sally?

Nah, can't be.

This is Ian we're talking about.
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#72 PuffinGrandeur

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 06:59 PM

How does that change anything about whether it's NICOLE or Sally?

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 10:42 PM

How does that change anything about whether it's NICOLE or Sally?


You have to admit, these questions he's asked are very intruguing, even enough to make you wonder.

But still, I just can't see this kind of slight of hand from Ian. He's not that complex.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:03 AM

Well, Nicoles Nanites can be destroyed by Naugus as we discovered last issue, If Nicole is not dead she will be seriously depowered....

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 05:03 AM

my theory is that Nicole used the nanites to shield her and/or she pushed her out of the way.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 08:53 AM

well judging from the picture, and everything, and according to this http://archiesonic.w...gehog_Issue_225 (read it, it says everything that will happen in this issue)i honestley say i think she's dead maybe =I hope not though.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 11:18 PM

my theory is that Nicole used the nanites to shield her and/or she pushed her out of the way.


That theory of yours if very intriguing.

It could just be that.

But I'm not optimistic I hate to say.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:11 AM

Do to Genesis, everyone is going to think her dead, but she is going to get better after the arc.

my theory is that Nicole used the nanites to shield her and/or she pushed her out of the way.


Or Took the blow herself, it is seeming their building up to NICOLE sacraficing herself to save everyone, mostly to get over the fact that she went rogue once.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:08 PM

my theory is that Nicole used the nanites to shield her and/or she pushed her out of the way.


That's what I was thinking too. Why have her holding Nicole if she (Nicole) isn't going to come into play? The blast probably still knocked Sally down or out, hence the shattered goggles.

I'm not really looking forward to the game-based stories coming up.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:22 PM

What did bother me about what Ian said about what happened to Sally was too graphic, is that it could be taken to mean that she is dead. However,I am still keeping up hope that Sally is alive, I'd like to think she is still alive. I will do what I can to help bring her back alive to the comic, if worse came to worse, and if she is really killed off I will probably get to the point where I will consider Sonic Sat a.m. the only legitament Sonic universe.




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