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[chief]

So over the past few chapters of Sea3on we have seen the love/hate relationship between Naugus and Snively. So Id like to bring up this question to you all. What do you think of their partnership? Will it last forever? Will it fall apart soon? Or perhaps later on? For that matter who will betray who?

I'm sure a lot of you have your own views on this. I'm also sure Ali has some very different views on their relationship...But lets keep this PG eh, Ali?

[Vampfox]

It will fall apart because everyone knows that Robotnik is Snively's true love.

Robotnik: "Can you make me happy twice in one day, Snively?"

But no it won't last since Snively is not trustworthy, and I'm sure that Naugus knows this.

[Shadow]

I'm waiting for Naugus to turn Snively into his bitch.

[LaserX5]

I know for sure it won't last.

Both of them are taking advantage of their current partnership, and I do believe when the time is right, either Snively or more likely Naugus, will make his move and cut ties with him, maybe even to the point of taking their life.

Besides, having them united for now only gives each one a better shot at taking out the Freedom Fighters.

[chalcara]

I want Robotnik back.

*sniff*



I do hope it'll be the snively that takes out naugus, just for "yeah, see, I really AM a danger" purposes - it would be some great character developement for snively - but right now I am more expecting Naugus to curbstomp the sniv soon. :/

[LaserX5]

I want Robotnik back.

*sniff*


I do hope it'll be the snively that takes out naugus, just for "yeah, see, I really AM a danger" purposes - it would be some great character developement for snively - but right now I am more expecting Naugus to curbstomp the sniv soon. :/

Same here. I don't care for Naugus too much. But, for the time being, he's an interesting villain for the Freedom Fighters to face.

[DLTN]

I think they will betray each other at the same time through ome freakish coincedince

[LaserX5]

I think they will betray each other at the same time through ome freakish coincedince

Question is though, which one will succeed should that happen?

[DMoney]

They do not have a relationship. They have a partnership. I think this is Snively's doing, because there is no possible way that Naugus would work with Snively unless he had no choice. Snively is obviously holding something over Naugus's head, so as soon as Naugus is able to truely be free from Snivley's "deal" he would kill Snively. On the other hand, Snivley is keeping Naugus around because he wants the help. He obviously can find many uses for Naugus and his magic. He found several uses already, such as reading Sonic's mind, controlling Sally's tongue, and fighting the FFs (nearly killing Tails), and testing his new "machine". They have 2 different mindsets which lead to them working together, but will cause certain betral soon enough. Naugus mindset is he wants to rule and make everyone slaves under his power. Snively wants the same, but he will use every resource that he can control, trying to not make the mistakes that Robotnik made. This is why he is using Naugus rather than just trying to get rid of him. If the circumstances were flipped, Naugus would've just killed Snivley soon as he got out the Void.

I think the comic will follow Ben's plan, which leads to Naugus somehow finally gaining full control, and Snively escapes to join the FFs.

D$

[saber16]

Actually, it's kind of funny... The fan comic I was working on before had the two working together, but they were on more even terms. Snively helped Naugus out of the void and in return Naugus helps Snively take over.


As for this story, it could go either way.

I'm just looking forward to drawing the big round one.

[LaserX5]

I think the comic will follow Ben's plan, which leads to Naugus somehow finally gaining full control, and Snively escapes to join the FFs.

Thing is though, Ben's original plan was to have Snively attempt to rule Mobius by himself, then when the Freedom Fighters had him cornered, he would release Naugus as a last resort, only to have it severely backfire.

[Bakuda]

I think the comic will follow Ben's plan, which leads to Naugus somehow finally gaining full control, and Snively escapes to join the FFs.

Thing is though, Ben's original plan was to have Snively attempt to rule Mobius by himself, then when the Freedom Fighters had him cornered, he would release Naugus as a last resort, only to have it severely backfire.

But that doesn't explain very well why we see Naugus's eyes at the end of the final episode of SatAM. If Snively tries to take over himself at first then why do we see those eyes?

[LaserX5]

But that doesn't explain very well why we see Naugus's eyes at the end of the final episode of SatAM. If Snively tries to take over himself at first then why do we see those eyes?

I've often wondered that myself. Ben Hurst unfortunately really never gave any info as to why Naugus' eyes showed up, except maybe to reveal that Snively and him were now working together.

I really wish Hurst would have given more info on this. It is a confusing issue. Snively did say in that last episode, "and I'm not alone.", before showing Naugus eyes.

Then Hurst says during an interview says Naugus would be currently in the Void torturing Robotnik until Snively would release him as an act of desperation. Did he change his mind during his writing process, or was that his original intent all along?

I don't know.

My only guess is, and this only a guess, Snively would free Naugus shortly as part of their partnership deal, but soon had second thoughts. Perhaps he thought releasing him right away would threaten his new title as ruler of Mobius.

That does lead to another interesting question. How did Snively form a partnership with Naugus anyway? I mean, did he communicate with him through the Void? And if he did, he did he do so without getting caught by his Uncle? Your guess is as good as mine.

Man, so many unanswered questions. Just goes to show you, Hurst really was a brilliant writer.

[acstrife]

We will never truly know what Hurst had in store for season 3 as there were only rough ideas thought up. Which could have changed at a moments notice. The ideas that were written up certainly helps us in the direction the comic is going. So far I like it, and I kinda had a gut feeling the chaos emeralds would show up when the red eyes were confirmed they were Naugus.

Any-who, I really believe Snively is not like his uncle, and Julian was too involved in his petty revenge with the blue blur. Which led to his defeat and possibly demise. I really doubt whatever deal Snively made with Naugus, Snively will not let Naugus have control over the emeralds. To me that just bad business, Naugus has access to an art Snively has barely a comprehension of. Thats is very dangerous, as of now Snively has the upper hand considering Naugus' magic is weakened outside the void. I believe Snively has a plan to keep the emeralds out of Naugus' mits. I always thought Snively as much more common sense oriented and intelligent to boot and I have every reason to believe Snively when the time is right will play his hand before Naugus can.

So Im rooting for Snively to be the ultimate #1 villain here. Go Snively kick their furry behinds!

[Vampfox]

You know when you think about it I'm kind of surprise that Ben was going to have Naugus be the villain of Season 3. Naugus really didn't seem that evil in the void episode. He seemed more like an anti-hero then a villain.

[Bakuda]

To me he seemed more like a retired villain...someone who was once truly evil and deep down inside still had it in them. I think that a release from the void would have brought back that need for power

[chief]

Yeah, I think that in the void he just.. Well.. Couldn't do anything. So why be evil?

[Jackal]

I think they both plan to screw each other over; Snively will try first, but fail. Fearing an angry Naugus, he'll try and get in contact with Sonic and co to save his hind.

As for Robotnik? Me personally, I would love to have seen him manage to get lost somewhere else where on Mobius, find some powerful artifact and use the time away to build a massive attack force to deal with Sonic after Naugus has been defeated.

Great comic btw, keep up the good work!

[LaserX5]

You know when you think about it I'm kind of surprise that Ben was going to have Naugus be the villain of Season 3. Naugus really didn't seem that evil in the void episode. He seemed more like an anti-hero then a villain.

That does seem true. Then again, they showed Robotnik having a flashback of working under Naugus, so there's a chance he only helped the Freedom Fighters to get back at Julian.

Also, I think the offer from Snively to become partners and work together to rule the planet was too good of a deal for him to pass up.

I really wished Ben had shared more of what he had in mind. He had such a creative mind when it came to plots like this.

[Mithrandir]

It's nearly impossible to imagine Naugus and Snively managing to work together for more than perhaps a season's worth of material. It's not just a matter of the already existing tensions we've seen between them, but I've always looked at there being a clear split between what they represent: Naugus seeks domination through magic and mysticism, Snively (much like his uncle) seeks it through order established by technology. These two forces cannot co-exist very long if they both want to seek power in their own ways...that said, I always liked in the earlier Archie comics that the Echidnas (and specifically the Guardians) seemed to be the only people who actually had a grasp on combining technology with mysticism, wise enough to see the good in both; makes me wonder if this iteration of Knuckles might also represent that ideal.

Of course, both also have a common enemy in the Freedom Fighters, who at their core represent the natural world, and the freedom to exist within it. Come to think of it, I wonder if that's a point to be explored later: maybe the Chaos Emeralds are a working sign of nature's power on Mobius, power that Naugus seeks to harness through magic, and Snively seeks to contain through technology; that's got to backfire at some point.

Back to the core point, though, seems clear that Snively has some kind of carrot-and-stick that he's holding over Naugus' head, but how long can you hope to contain such powers? We've seen that even in his weakened state that almost nobody can stand up to the wizard, and unless he's acting out of pure desperation, Snively must have some sort of contingency in place should Naugus' powers grow to greater levels...whether that contingency would work or not, well, this IS Snively we're talking about...