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[NoctisxThexFox]

If there was to be a new sonic cartoon would you want it revolving around the games or revolving around the elements of Archie comics and SatAm

[LogiTeeka]

I would prefer a SatAM inspired show. But if the show were to feature any game elements, I hope they would be creative and original rather then being taken directly from the games themselves.

[DLTN]

A new series incorporating elements of other continuities. I would personally want...
SatAM basis (Rebellion against crazed tyrant)
Pretty bleak tone (Like Fleetway comics, and probs due to me being an older fan)
Season long story arcs (Would love to see Tails turn on Sonic due to events that hapen during season, or a shock exit for a well liked character)
If Sonic Adventure 2 is adapted, let Shadow stay dead, bringing him back ruined the impact of SA2s ending.

[PuffinGrandeur]

Base it off the games and put their own spin on it, like every other adaptation. I'd love to see the Guruhiru artwork incorporated into a traditional animation project for Sonic the Hedgehog.

[Juice16]

I would love to see a show using the Characters from the Archie comics but using the SATAM theme where Robotnik was actually trying to take over the world. Also would like strong storyline as well as season long arcs as mentioned above.

[RedAuthar]

I would have to say a combination of all of the above. I think they should take aspects from SatAM and Archie Sonic and tie them into the game's story line.

[KingTerky]

i have high hopes that eddie lebron's film will generate some interest in a new show. i don't really mind exactly what the show revolves around so long as the writers keep a few things in mind:

(in my opinion) Satam takes itself too seriously, adventers doesn't take its audience seriously enough and SU doesn't take itself seriously enough. gotta find some kind of balance in there.

also, don't be afraid to give the characters personality flaws that make them more relatable. there are characters i'd like to see written into a new continuity, like manic and sonia for example. manic can still be a thief, but make it more of an uncontrollable compulsion and less of a lifestyle. give knuckles some crippling social anxiety disorder, and tails needs to be a kid finding an outlet for his genius creativity, but a kid nonetheless. i also like how in sonic X, sonic seemed to have a bit of asperger's disorder, especially when knuckles was raging about him losing the chaos emeralds at the beginning of season 3 or something.

"YOU HAD ALL THE EMERALDS IN ONE PLACE AND SCATTERED THEM?!?!"
/chuckle "yeah!"
"WELL WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW?!"
"go get em i guess!" /shrug,/big grin

funny stuff.

personally i'd like to see something more like adventures, but like i said, adventures doesn't take its audience seriously enough. it should have actually been...funny. even for little kids the show wasn't very funny. maybe it should have been more dark and cynical like rocko's modern life or the earthworm jim cartoon. now those shows were funny!

edit: and also JALEEL WHITE has to be the voice of sonic, who would want it any other way?? =P

[Hammer]

I think that all of the above should be taken into account by Sega...but I doubt it.
However, everything I'd ask for a Sonic show would be to be internationally distributed well.
It's a shame that none of the Sonic series have arrived fine to Europe (aside from the UK).
In AoStH, we didn't receive Christmas Blast. In SatAM, we only received Season 1. In SU...well, it's almost impossible to find apart from the opening and one or two episodes. And SX came censored, with the 4Kids censorship if I remember well (although not in the DVDs).

[LaserX5]

I'd actually like to see a show that was based on the Satam universe, but it had Sonic characters from all the universes in it.

Sorta lika a combination of the best from each universe.

[DLTN]

You could easily create suitable back stories for non SatAM characters to intergrate them in a new show.
Nack/Fang could have been a former Acorn soldier who now works freelance, making him both a hero and villain on numerous episodes.
Rouge could be a double agent whos true motivations may never be revealed, or she has simply lost sight of them.

[Robthe1st]

If there was to be a new sonic cartoon would you want it revolving around the games or revolving around the elements of Archie comics and SatAm

To me, I'd rather see a new Sonic Anime show, featuring the characters from the SatAM and the Archie Comics (Most of them).

My story is way different then the elements of Archie Comics, SatAM, and the video games. I'd rather talk about it. But, it's too private for me.

[Vampfox]

If there was a new Sonic show I'd like it to be a mix of Satam and Archie Sonic elements.
I'd love to see Archie Sonic characters like Julie-Su and Fiona Fox in a Sonic cartoon.
But sadly it will never happen. Sega will control to push the Japanese Sonic canon on everyone regardless of whether fans like it or not.

[LaserX5]

But sadly it will never happen. Sega will control to push the Japanese Sonic canon on everyone regardless of whether fans like it or not.

Yep. Those arrogant tryants don't care about the wishes of the fans. How sad and disgusting is that?

I so cannot wait until I hear some other company THAT ACTUALLY CARES about its product has bought the rights from Sega to make Sonic games.

[PuffinGrandeur]

Those heartless bastards. Honestly I just find it hilarious that you think any company that would buy Sega out would actually care at all about Sonic. It's astonishing, really. Impressive even.

Why won't you include Porker Lewis, Sega? Do you just hate Sonic the Hedgehog that much?

[Massagraf]

Those arrogant tryants don't care about the wishes of the fans.

With "the fans", do you mean every single Sonic fan or only the ones who share your opinion regarding this franchise?

From a neutral point of view, there seems to be a lot of dogmatism coming from fans regarding the blue hedgehog. Pleasing everyone with a fanbase this large and divided is impossible for Sega to accomplish. Disagreeing with them is fine, but remember that there are no superior opinions regarding taste.

This is not a good guys - bad guys scenario.

[DLTN]

Exactly, there are a lot of continuities and its going to be impossible to please everyone. I personally like SatAM, STC and some of Archie, but I love the games too (most of them anyway), While I cant stand Underground. But I know that it depends on taste. For example, a new show aimed at an older audience would go down well with some, but may alienate younger and game fans, while another Sonic X would probably alienate older fans.

[LaserX5]

Those heartless bastards. Honestly I just find it hilarious that you think any company that would buy Sega out would actually care at all about Sonic. It's astonishing, really. Impressive even.

Why won't you include Porker Lewis, Sega? Do you just hate Sonic the Hedgehog that much?

At least I'll give credit to the fact Nintendo and Capcom cares more about their mascots than Sega does.

Yes, they both have characters and things in it I do not like. But hey, that's life. No video game company can please all the fans.

Those arrogant tyrants don't care about the wishes of the fans.

With "the fans", do you mean every single Sonic fan or only the ones who share your opinion regarding this franchise?

From a neutral point of view, there seems to be a lot of dogmatism coming from fans regarding the blue hedgehog. Pleasing everyone with a fanbase this large and divided is impossible for Sega to accomplish. Disagreeing with them is fine, but remember that there are no superior opinions regarding taste.

This is not a good guys - bad guys scenario.

When I say Sega does not care about the fans, I mean the majority in general. They seem more interested in making money than making solid games for the fans to enjoy.

A good example of this is the fact they've ripped off other popular titles for their latest Sonic games instead of doing something more original.

Take a look at their last 4 games.

2007 Sonic and the Secret Rings - Rip off of Aladdin.

2008 Sonic Unleashed - Rip off of Zelda Twilight Princess.

2009 Sonic and the Black Knight - Rip off of the Disney movie Sword in the Stone.

2010 Sonic Colors - Rip off of Super Mario Galaxy.

See my point here? They haven't even tried to come up with something different and original since that infamous 2006 Sonic game that created alot of controversy. I suppose in a way I can see why, although that's still no excuse.

I do understand what you're saying that they can't please all the fans. And you're right, no company can, as I wrote earlier. However, they do not seem to be even trying to please them.

As for the divided fanbase, well, that's Sega fault IMO. Instead of trying to find common ground like Nintendo does for its fans, they seem to be all the place, with all of these weird and confusing universes of Sonic. I don't think I'm the only one who finds this completely unnecessary.

Why can't they just stick to one canon universe for Sonic, pick the best characters from each one and be done with it? Even Nintendo was smart enough to keep their Mario series simple and basic. Or, if they insist on having multiple universes, why not make some games from some of these in order to please more of the fanbase?

This is one thing I do not get from Sega. They want to milk their mascot for all he's worth, and yet they're not even considering to make games that the other Sonic fanbases would enjoy. But, then again, this is Sega we're talking about, the iron fisted company who will do things their way, regardless of what anyone says.

[PuffinGrandeur]

They did eventually decide to stick with one universe. They just didn't pick yours. If you seriously think Nintendo never had differences between Japan's version, America's version, and its own cartoons and comics, you have got those blinders on SERIOUSLY tight. Honestly, the Sonic and the Black Knight one there just made me laugh out loud. It's just... what is the connection even supposed to be, aside from the use of King Arthur's legend? You don't seriously think that Disney came up with that, do you?

...oh god, do you?

Also I like how you ignored the blog of Sonic Team specifically just gushing about the game and the time they spent screwing around making it. Maybe I should point this out one more time: not caring about SataM is not the same as not caring about Sonic. The show barely even aired over in Japan, why would any of the people on Sonic Team be incredibly passionate about bringing it in over the SegaSonic world-hopping adventure canon THEY grew up with?

SataM - Ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

[LaserX5]

They did eventually decide to stick with one universe. They just didn't pick yours. If you seriously think Nintendo never had differences between Japan's version, America's version, and its own cartoons and comics, you have got those blinders on SERIOUSLY tight. Honestly, the Sonic and the Black Knight one there just made me laugh out loud. It's just... what is the connection even supposed to be, aside from the use of King Arthur's legend? You don't seriously think that Disney came up with that, do you?

...oh god, do you?

Also I like how you ignored the blog of Sonic Team specifically just gushing about the game and the time they spent screwing around making it. Maybe I should point this out one more time: not caring about SataM is not the same as not caring about Sonic. The show barely even aired over in Japan, why would any of the people on Sonic Team be incredibly passionate about bringing it in over the SegaSonic world-hopping adventure canon THEY grew up with?

SataM - Ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

No, Sega did not stick to one universe. Because if they did, we wouldn't be seeing characters such as Sally, Bunnie, Antoine, Mina, Julie-Su, Snively, etc... as comic only Sonic characters. That is technically another universe of the Sonic series IMO. I won't count the DIC cartoons because I know Sega doesn't even recognize them, especially since 1 of them was terrible.(SU) and another was way too comical.(AOSTH) Sonic X on the other hand, could be considered another Sonic universe because it is a Sega sanctioned Sonic animated show.

As for Mario, I'm not talking about differences between the Japanese and American games and such. I'm talking about different universes for the Italian plumber. Nintendo for the most part did not do that. And no, those mediocre to atrocious DIC cartoons of them don't count because DIC did a horrible job making them about Nintendo's mascot. They're as canon to me as the movie Batman and Robin is to the Batman series.

Also, where in the world did you get the idea that I implied Disney came up with that story of King Arthur? I said it ripped off the movie, which is true. It has a merlin like character, a sword with powers, and a black knight. You do the math.

And yes, I ignored the blog because I could care less what Sega says. Their words don't mean squat to me. They can praise that game all they want, but it's their actions I focus on. And what I see is a company who is too lazy to come up with something original.

Anyway, yea, I'll admit I don't like it that Sega completely ignores Satam. But it's not that so much that bothers me than the fact they DO NOT CARE about making solid games for its fanbase again. You really think there's nothing wrong with the fact their last 4 big games are rip offs of popular titles? I'm sorry, but that is unacceptable to me. If Nintendo and Capcom can make original games to this day, I see no reason why Sega can't either.

Lastly, I think it's a stretch saying Satam is a rip off of Lord of the Rings. You gotta remember the Sega sanctioned Sonic games uses rings as well. I'm not disagreeing with you on that statement, but if anything, I think it's ripping off James Cameron's epic series, The Terminator. I see alot of similarities between roboticization and using people's skin as part of the Terminator's structure. And let's not forget that both of the main heroes fight a war against machines, even though Satam's villain has a Overlander dictator, while Terminator's main villain is Skynet.

[DLTN]

And Its not just Sonic fans that Sega pisses off. Golden Axe: Beast Rider? Sega pulling Streets of Rage Remake (A free game) to rerelease SOR2 on iphone. NO SHENMUE 3?????!!!!