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[LogiTeeka]

If many of you are still unsatisfied with Sonic Underground, I would recommend you to read "New Sonic Underground" on anglefire.

While some of the show's problems are still present, it's definitely an improvement over the original series: The songs are better, the story is improved, the fight scenes are epic, and Tails is included!

[LaserX5]

If many of you are still unsatisfied with Sonic Underground, I would recommend you to read "New Sonic Underground" on anglefire.

While some of the show's problems are still present, it's definitely an improvement over the original series: The songs are better, the story is improved, the fight scenes are epic, and Tails is included!

Really?

Sounds interesting...

Is this part of your work?

[LogiTeeka]

No, the series was created by Ryan Perreault. But you can contribute your own episodes.

[LaserX5]

No, the series was created by Ryan Perreault. But you can contribute your own episodes.

Really?

Would they accept Satam/SU styled fics?

[LogiTeeka]

Possibly. You might want to E-mail him on that, but I wouldn't say no.

If you have any questions, check the FAQ section on the site's main menu. You can also find Ryan Perreault's e-mail address at the bottom of the page.

[LaserX5]

Ok, I'll do that.

Thanks.

[LaserX5]

If many of you are still unsatisfied with Sonic Underground, I would recommend you to read "New Sonic Underground" on anglefire.

Just curious, are you going to submit any content to that fansite?

[LogiTeeka]

I'm not sure. I may consider it.

[LaserX5]

I'm not sure. I may consider it.

Oh, ok.

Well, hope you do sometime.

I'd like to see how you write it out.

[Prime]

I'ma not gonna lie, I like Sonic Underground, in no way is it on the same level as SatAM, but I can sit down and watch it, something I can't do with AoStH and Sonic X

I think the biggest problem with Underground was the fact that people were expecting something like SatAM. They wanted SU to be SatAM and when it wasn't, there was hate. It's understandable, especially since there was such a fandom for SatAM

It would of been a smart move for DiC to have produced 14 more episodes of SatAM and then they could of packaged it for syndication, would of been cheaper producing 14 new episodes then producing 40 new ones.

Now SU isn't without it's faults. Yeah the songs were terrible, Sonia was annoying as hell and the voice acting was kinda sub-par, but the show had it's merits.

[LogiTeeka]

I'ma not gonna lie, I like Sonic Underground, in no way is it on the same level as SatAM, but I can sit down and watch it, something I can't do with AoStH and Sonic X

I agree. Out of all the shows, Sonic Underground had the most similarities and homages to SatAM. If it weren't for some differences in the back-story and setting, it could've been set within the same universe.

I think the biggest problem with Underground was the fact that people were expecting something like SatAM. They wanted SU to be SatAM and when it wasn't, there was hate. It's understandable, especially since there was such a fandom for SatAM

I'm with you on this one. A major problem with the fanbase is that the fans expect too much. And when it doesn't meet their expectations, the complain about the negatives and never praise the positives. Sonic 4 is a good example of this.

Now SU isn't without it's faults. Yeah the songs were terrible, Sonia was annoying as hell and the voice acting was kinda sub-par, but the show had it's merits.

Yeah, Sonia got annoying at times (especially the voice), but at least she's more tolerable than another pink hedgehog we're familiar with.

[LaserX5]

I'ma not gonna lie, I like Sonic Underground, in no way is it on the same level as SatAM, but I can sit down and watch it, something I can't do with AoStH and Sonic X

AOSTH actually wasn't too bad I thought. Sure, it was zany and off the wall, but that was because it what was the show was going for.

As for Sonic X, if you're talking about the 4Kids version, OH YEA! Biggest piece of garbage dubbing I ever saw for a Sonic show.

The Jap version on the other hand is better, but it still has its glaring problems too.

I think the biggest problem with Underground was the fact that people were expecting something like SatAM. They wanted SU to be SatAM and when it wasn't, there was hate. It's understandable, especially since there was such a fandom for SatAM

That's why I can't understand why DIC chose to go this route instead of giving Satam another go. It was gaining popularity over the years, so why not give it another chance?

Were they really that money hungry that they made a show where they could rake in profits from atrocious songs?

It would of been a smart move for DIC to have produced 14 more episodes of SatAM and then they could of packaged it for syndication, would of been cheaper producing 14 new episodes then producing 40 new ones.

I couldn't agree more here.

14 new, high quality episodes of Satam would have been a much better idea than 40 lousy SU ones.

Now SU isn't without it's faults. Yeah the songs were terrible, Sonia was annoying as hell and the voice acting was kinda sub-par, but the show had it's merits.

Those merits sadly are very few. It did have redeemable qualities to it, but not enough to make it a good show.

I agree. Out of all the shows, Sonic Underground had the most similarities and homages to SatAM. If it weren't for some differences in the back-story and setting, it could've been set within the same universe.

I think you're right. SU's storyline could have fit in with Satam's with a few changes here and there. Plus, I would have loved to have seen Manic and Sonia as part of the Knothole FF's.

I'm with you on this one. A major problem with the fanbase is that the fans expect too much. And when it doesn't meet their expectations, the complain about the negatives and never praise the positives. Sonic 4 is a good example of this.

I don't see it that way at all.

Since people loved Satam, why not give the fans what they want and make more of it?

Why give them a watered down waste of sound and ink show like SU?

Sadly, DIC, nor Sega to this day has gotten this message.

If they want to please the fanbase, they must do what's best for them, not for what makes them the most money.

Yeah, Sonia got annoying at times (especially the voice), but at least she's more tolerable than another pink hedgehog we're familiar with.

If we're comparing Sonia to Amy Rose from Sonic X, OH YEA!

I seriously HATED the way Amy was portrayed in that show. She was like an emotional trainwreck.

Sonia's personality was bad too, but she at least had her moments that made her worth being there.

[LogiTeeka]

I don't see it that way at all.

Since people loved Satam, why not give the fans what they want and make more of it?

Why give them a watered down waste of sound and ink show like SU?

Sadly, DIC, nor Sega to this day has gotten this message.

If they want to please the fanbase, they must do what's best for them, not for what makes them the most money.

From what I've read, the show was originally planned to be a prequel/continuation of SatAM. Unfortunately, the reason why it was changed was due to DIC/SEGA wanting to appeal to a different audience. If they had combined the two ideas (only with better songs), it probably would've worked.

If we're comparing Sonia to Amy Rose from Sonic X, OH YEA!

I seriously HATED the way Amy was portrayed in that show. She was like an emotional trainwreck.

Sonia's personality was bad too, but she at least had her moments that made her worth being there.

Although Sonia was annoying, at least she had personality. Sonia was annoying due to her snobbery and semi-spoiledness, which is understandable due to her childhood. I don't mind characters with "annoying" personalities; as long as they're interesting and understandable. I'd rather have a character with problems than a bland goody-two-shoes.

[LaserX5]

From what I've read, the show was originally planned to be a prequel/continuation of SatAM. Unfortunately, the reason why it was changed was due to DIC/SEGA wanting to appeal to a different audience. If they had combined the two ideas (only with better songs), it probably would've worked.

Maybe.

Although, I almost wonder how much Sega had a hand in not letting Satam continue.

Although Sonia was annoying, at least she had personality. Sonia was annoying due to her snobbery and semi-spoiledness, which is understandable due to her childhood. I don't mind characters with "annoying" personalities; as long as they're interesting and understandable. I'd rather have a character with problems than a bland goody-two-shoes.

My main problem with Sonia was the fact she was way too spoiled and seem more concerned about her looks and Bartleby than her own brothers at times.

I mean, c'mon! How can she appeal to the Sonic fanbase like that?

Not saying I didn't want her to have flaws, but they should be ones that help develop her character over time.

[Keen Bean]

Maybe I'm the odd one here, but I actually like SatAM, Underground, and AoStH. Of course SatAM is my favorite, but I enjoy the others. Underground has a pretty decent story and has some similarities to SatAM. The key is you gotta tell yourself it is NOT SatAM and is meant to be something different. AoStH is very different, but I still like it.

I think a lot of it is you can't expect something that is not SatAM to measure up SatAM, know what I mean? The other Sonic shows just don't compare to SatAM, but depending on your preferences they are still good shows.

Now Sonic X... that's a different story. I've watched a few episodes and just can't get in to it. Maybe it's because it's over 15 years later and the older shows were a part of my childhood... or maybe because the other shows were just better

[Bakuda]

... or maybe because the other shows were just better

YEP

[LaserX5]

Now Sonic X... that's a different story. I've watched a few episodes and just can't get in to it.

Did you watch just the 4Kids version or the Jap version one as well?

YEP

No Sonic show will ever beat Satam.

The Jap version of Sonic X was the only one that had a shot, but it too came up short.

[Keen Bean]

Now Sonic X... that's a different story. I've watched a few episodes and just can't get in to it.

Did you watch just the 4Kids version or the Jap version one as well?

YEP

No Sonic show will ever beat Satam.

The Jap version of Sonic X was the only one that had a shot, but it too came up short.

I saw some of the 4Kids episodes while flipping through channels. What are the differences, besides a different language of course? I'm sure there are some cut-out or added scenes between the two.

[Ther2view]

...I actually kinda liked Sonic X... in someways. Yes, the 4Kids dub was awful, (not surprising, considering it's 4kids.) but sorta enjoyed watching a modern Sonic cartoon. Yes, I despise Chris Thorndyke, but the Show was fine in my opinion. I actually liked all the Sonic shows in their own way.

[LaserX5]

I saw some of the 4Kids episodes while flipping through channels. What are the differences, besides a different language of course? I'm sure there are some cut-out or added scenes between the two.

Believe me, the 4Kids version completely ruined what the original show was meant to be. The Jap version is 100X better.

Better voice actors, better dialogue, better music, better sound effects.

It's a much more enjoyable show.

Not as good as Satam, but it has its epic moments at times.

Just go onto Youtube and look up the first episode the Jap version of the show with the Eng subtitles.

You won't be disappointed.