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@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:25 PM)

Say, who made the cute picture of Beaver Chief?

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:24 PM)

Finally!

@  RedMenace : (21 July 2015 - 05:02 PM)

Woooo! The site's back up! Three cheers for Kef!


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#21 Vlad Yvhv

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 08:19 PM

It's unfortunate that I wasn't able to catch all of SatAM when it originally aired. What I was able to catch has stayed with me, albeit in a bit of warped and merged memories (some of which containing stuff from 3 or more episodes [most likely a result of my migraines and the medications I've had to use to deal with them]). I've forgotten a lot more about most of the shows I watched as a kid. So, that even those slightly altered memories were strong enough to bring me to FUS, really says something to the show's "staying power"... Surely, without Ben's work on the series, I would've forgotten about the show...

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 07:52 PM

I was a child of the late 80s and most of the 90s and while I was growing up, I spent a lot of time in front of the TV, watching plenty of cartoons, several of which Ben had worked on. There was The Real Ghostbusters as well as the spin off Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters, there was the enjoyable Tiny Toon Adventures and there was also Sonic Underground. But of all of Ben's work, it's going to be SatAM that sticks out. It is his legacy.

Len Janson created the SatAM world, but it was Ben who fleshed out the series. I believe if Ben wasn't the story editor of the second season, the show could of ended up being another video game tie-in series, nothing special. Looking back at the first season, there isn't anything exactly special. There's a couple of good episodes, but other then that, it's typical fodder, a new story every episode with little to no continuity. That changed when the second season started, having a story arc that more or less spanned the whole season. Not only that, but a good, solid story arc. To me, the second season is what helped make the show stand out from most other shows in the 90s. In my DVD collection, there isn't a whole lot of animated stuff from the 90s in there, but SatAM sits on the shelf, not hidden away out of sheer embarassment like some DVDs I have, like The Star Wars Holiday Special.

I never had the opportunity to talk to Ben, as the years have gone by I kind of drifted away from the fandom, but Ben always seemed like a cracking guy to me, becoming active in the fandom, answering questions and so forth. It's rare that people involved in shows like SatAM remain active after production has ceased and they talk to the fandom. Hearing the things Nique told me about Ben (as few as they were) was always fun to hear. And when the original Sea3on project was started, adapting Ben's original outlines for what would of been the 3rd season, it felt like an honor at being asked to write the scripts for a few issues. It is a shame we'll never get Ben's actual vision of what could of been a 3rd season.

I was saddened when I heard the news, and it's a shame that the world has lost a talented person, but Ben has a legacy that will go on, and that's more then what most get.

Cheers for all the entertainment Mr. Hurst.


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Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:13 PM



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On the SatAMy side, I know he wanted to have Tails discover he had some kind of really powerful flight abilities. Like he could at least keep up with Sonic and maybe even go faster at times. He wanted Tails to be able to use Power Rings eventually. I remember a scene he told me about that he had in mind was that Sonic and Tails were getting a power ring, and Tails would fly out and grab it and ultimately just rocket off into the sky. Then Sally would walk by and see Sonic staring into the sky and this exchange would happen:

"What are you looking at?"
"Tails."
*Looks up* "He's not up there."
"Yeah he is."

Anyway, more to come as I think of them smile.gif


Very interesting!

I think it would have been awesome to have Tails harness the Power Ring like Sonic did.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:33 PM

Like most children my age in the 90's, and I speak as somebody born in 1985, Saturday mornings were always something special. So special, in fact, that many networks would set aside Friday night specials the day before the new cartoon season started just to give the audience previews of what new material would be popping up the next morning.

So, it's little surprise that I, a kid who had spent the past year-plus dedicating my spare time to fully beating Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on my Sega Genesis (naturally ensuring that I saw what happened when you acquired all the Chaos Emeralds, after hearing murmurs about this "Super Sonic"...), would be chomping at the bit to see Sonic getting his own cartoon series on ABC.

The show had me hooked from the very first episode aired. I never expected to see Sonic's world look like that, to see Sonic working with a team, to see Dr. Robotnik as a tyrannical overlord, but it took all of five minutes for me to absolutely love it.

That said, Season Two is when my interest really reached a new level. I want to say I was approximately 8 years old or so, maybe 9, and for the first time in my life I had a TV series that I felt compelled to watch every single week, not because I simply liked the characters or the design of the show, but because I actually wanted to follow the overarching story that carried through the entire season. The concept of a show keeping you hooked like that was something I couldn't really comprehend until then.

Beyond that, I was also dealing with the concept of a show where, as far as I knew, any of the characters that I had grown attached to could possibly be killed off, or roboticized in this case. Looking back its a bit silly, but when the series finale came along and Sonic was in the Roboticizer in the Doomsday Project, little 8/9 year old me was actually getting a knot in his stomach thinking that Robotnik might actually win.

Ben Hurst deserves all the credit in the world for pulling that off. Cartoon writers like him helped usher in an age of animation where cartoons didn't feel the need so often to talk down to their audience, where writers actually put care and detail into their work, and crafted their own unique characters that didn't have to fit the mold of whatever toy or video game company was pushing the show. After a decade like the 80's, where most of the cartoons we had were not much beyond glorified toy commercials, seeing a series like SatAM was like watching a new era being born.

I owe him, and other writers of that time, a debt of gratitude. Animation has always meant a lot to me, but it was shows like SatAM, and shows I learned to appreciate later like ReBoot and Avatar: The Last Airbender, that showed me that animation can have a great meaning for you even when you reach adulthood. It's that development that's lead to me to work on pursuing voice acting, and feel passion for it, to hopefully one day play a role in the creation of an animated program that carries that kind of weight for another generation of viewers and admirers.

I may never have known or spoken to Ben Hurst, but that doesn't change what kind of impact his masterpiece had on me, and many others who loved it as much or more. He's gone away too soon, but still manages to leave behind a wonderful legacy and a legion of fans. We should all be that fortunate to be able to look back on our lives and accomplishments and know we've done and meant that much.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:59 PM

Oh, this is horrible news.

I didn't really know the guy, but I know he accomplished more in his field than I ever have in mine. I leave out half a chili-dog for his work in making a cartoon about Sonic the Hedgehog way, way better than it had to be.

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:32 AM

While searching for the Easter Egg interview from the DVDs where he gives advice to aspiring writers (which doesn't appear to be online - anyone wanna rip it?) I found some articles he appears to have written on poetry. Good stuff:

http://www.fuelyourw...s-poetry-begin/
http://www.fuelyourw...beast-of-traal/

These are also very likely him. Amazingly, that last one has his phone number and email address. It was a mere Google search away.

http://www.voiceover...rofile/BenHurst
http://www.benhurstvoice.com/

...and that's all I've got. His commitment and integrity always impressed me, and his polite and friendly nature made him a rare gem.

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:27 PM

I didnt hear about this till now...Dang he was one of the best, And I loved this show too...But for all I know when I watched his interview on the Satam DVD series I bought long ago, I least learned he was a gifted smart man.

Rest in peace Ben, You'll be in our hearts.

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:24 PM

I grew up with SatAM, and it quickly became my one truly favorite show on television. When it was cancelled, I thought the world was going to end. Sadly, it did not and we have had to suffer through a SatAm devoid life. Then SatAm was released on DVD, and I was overjoyed. To be re-united with a major part of my TV viewing heritage, was amazing. I then caught wind of Ben Hurst and his work to bring the fabled 3rd season to light. I didn't think anything could stop us. But...then I had heard of the tragedy that had befallen Ben. To be taken away so suddenly, and there is just nothing we could have done. That's the worst part, the feeling of total helplessness. I have never met the man behind the hedgehog, but losing Ben is a painful thing to swallow. Ben Hurst, you will be missed. And if any of his close friends or family is visiting this site, then I would like to give my heartfelt condolences for their loss. The universe just got a bit less awesome...

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:34 PM

well this isn't what i wanted to see when i come back to the forums... i loved this show so much when i was a kid and i can honestly say i think the world won't be the same without his creative genius in the world
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 01:59 PM

I'm kind of new to Satam. I only saw the show for the first time a couple of months ago. Before that most of my knowledge of Satam came from the Archie Sonic comics.
When I first started watching Satam, I was amazed at how good this show is. When I finished watching all 26 episodes, I wanted more Satam.
Satam was a rare thing. It was a cartoon that was aimed at kids, yet unlike a lot of kids shows, it didn't talk down to kids. Alot of kids shows seem to be dumb down for children, and insult kids intelligence, yet Satam didn't. It was one of those shows that people of all ages can enjoy.
Ben, and the rest of the writers did a wonderful job creating a interesting world for Sonic, the Freedom Fighter's, and Dr. Robotnik to live in.
Ben(and all the writer's)created a wonderful show that will live on in the hearts of all it's fans.
R.I.P. Ben.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:50 PM

So something interesting happened the other night that I want to share.

First of all, when Rob came home from work he had told me about this car accident he saw on the way to work. He said it was kind of a weird accident and he wasn't sure how it happened or anything. I don't remember all the details, but for some reason he seemed very interested in it.

Then last night, I had this dream where I had some extra money and my mom was going to help me donate it to something. She wanted me to give it to caner researchers or something but I told her I wanted to give it to people who study diabetes because that's what killed Ben. Now before I continue with the story, let me first say my mom is NOT like this. She is NOT a mean person, she's very kind, caring and usually only thinks about others. But for some reason in this dream she was waaaay ooc and said something like, "Oh he's dead, just get over it." And of course I was pissed and felt awful.

So in the dream I left and went around searching for a bank to put my money into because I didn't want mom to take it. Later on I returned home and she was very apologetic to me and said she had a surprise for me in the other room. So I went into the other room which was more of like a basement, but apparently I had built this cardboard house in this room. I looked at it and suddenly it disappeared and then reappeared, and I somehow knew this was Ben's doing. (It made sense in the dream anyway) I got really excited and was saying things like, "Oh Ben's here!" and things like that. Then... I can't really explain the next part, but even though I couldn't SEE him, I knew he had like come around the corner and we gave each other a hug. I remember saying I was so glad he was okay and I was just ecstatic he was there and okay. The weird thing is, even though I couldn't see him, I kinda knew what he looked like, and I remember him looking younger than he did in the videos....

There were other parts to this dream where I saw him again and asked him what heaven was like... but those parts didn't feel the same as the part above so I'm not going to discuss those.

Anyway when I first woke up from this dream I didn't think much of it. So I just went back to sleep. It wasn't until I got up today and started doing my usual routine that I really started thinking about it and it's like... I felt something from it. I guess I didn't want to really think this was something real or that had had visited me, and I just kinda figured that's all it was. Just a dream. I figured what I was feeling was still due to his death and what not.

Later on I told Rob about the dream and he kinda had this look on his face and he told me it was interesting that I had that dream. Then he asked if I remembered the car accident he saw and I said yes. He said when he drove past it he felt really bad, like he felt this despair from it. When he got to work he started thinking about things and for some reason started thinking about Ben. Now the way he put it was he said he "broadcast a message" to Ben asking him to never leave me. He basically said it was like sometimes you talk to the sky you know... I guess you could consider it a prayer if we were religious. But he didn't tell me this until AFTER I told him about the dream so... this really seems like it was something special.

It's also kind of funny too that the tattoo I have on my arm says "We'll meet again someday, just a dream away."

Now I don't believe in the bible god, I don't believe in things like heaven and hell and souls and what not. But I do believe there is something after death. I can't tell you what, but it's there. And, well, it's very comforting to see that Ben is doing just fine. He always talked about how he'd love to be younger again and it seems he got his wish. So yeah... I can't tell you what's out there after death, but there is something, and well I'm happy to report that whatever it is, Ben is doing just fine. He's very happy. I kinda knew this anyway.

But I wanted to share that with you guys just in case any of you were worried or wondering. smile.gif

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:53 PM

Sounds like you had quite an epiphany, Sonique. Some of my most memorable dreams are when I'm watching a story unfold that is so clever and engaging that it makes me think, "Aw man, I wish I'd thought of doing that for my comic." Then when I wake up and realize it was a dream, it turns out that I have thought of that story myself and I can use it as I please. Of course, dream logic is not the same as real logic, and most of those clever ideas turn out to be worthless. Can you say "tomato priests"? dry.gif

While we're on the subject, has anyone had any Sonic-related dreams? The only one I can remember was when I was at a festival and I noticed Sally was on stage with a few other characters, but sadly I never managed to approach her. There are some dreams you wish you just won't wake up from.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

Actually, Glticher? Yes. Yes I have. It is one of the strongest dreams I have ever had in my life, in fact, because I had it when I was about six or so (shortly after first discovering SatAM too) and still remember it pretty vividly today. Note, by the way, that this is the sort of dream you have where you yourself are not in it; you are the audience and the dream is like a movie that takes up the entirety of your world. And it goes a little something...like-a this-a.

Sonic and Sally are investigating a misty graveyard for unknown reasons. They decide to split up, leading Sonic to one side of the graveyard and Sally to the other. Once they've split up, Sally falls into a sinkhole near one of the graves, containing within it the entombed body of an ancient and evil Queen. The Queen is sealed within a glass coffin (think the kind seen at the end of "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves"), and it is upon this coffin that Sally lands. This causes the vengeful spirit of the Queen to possess Sally's body and take control. When Sonic comes looking for her, Sally bursts out from underground, wielding incredible power due to the ghost inside of her and attempts to destroy Sonic. Not wanting to hurt Sally but knowing he has to do something, Sonic races through the graveyard, narrowly avoiding Sally's attacks (she is now capable of shooting energy blasts from her hands). Eventually, Sonic hits on an idea, pulling out a power ring from his backpack and leaping up at Sally, causing them both to be enveloped when the ring's energy activates. The ring's power drives the Queen's ghost out of Sally's body, and the two decide to leave the graveyard as quick as possible.

And there you have it. My Sonic dream. biggrin.gif
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Glitcher @ Oct 22 2010, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While we're on the subject, has anyone had any Sonic-related dreams?

More than can be counted. Sonic the Hedgehog is one of the two most recurring element of my dreams. (The other one is finding my childhood friend, Brandon Woodman.) It usually takes the form of the hedgehog himself for some reason. I'd rather dream about Sally or something tongue.gif

My reaction to either a Sonic dream or a Brandon dream is always "Not AGAIN..."


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Posted 23 October 2010 - 07:46 AM

Ha ha, I like the dream you experienced, Gojira. Ever thought of adapting it for a fan fic? tongue.gif

Since furrykef mentioned recurring dreams, I also have two dreams that I experience often. The first is finding an arcade cabinet of Marvel VS. Capcom 2. This was a few years ago when I was strapped for cash and desperately wanted to get my hands on a copy of my favourite game. When I later managed to emulate it on chankast (a Dreamcast emulator), the dreams stopped. The second reccuring dream is experiencing the end of the world. Usually it's by a meteor impact or some other cataclysmic event. Think 2012 meets Armaggedon. I can only hope these are just dreams...

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (Glitcher @ Oct 23 2010, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ha ha, I like the dream you experienced, Gojira. Ever thought of adapting it for a fan fic? tongue.gif

Thanks. happy.gif And yes, the thought has crossed my mind, but for various reasons I've yet to do a full one, though I may yet give it a try one day. For what it's worth, a germ of an idea from the dream, Sally's possession, did eventually blossom into my biggest Sonic 'fic to date, "Blood Pact", a few years back. You can read at fanfiction.net if you're interested.
http://www.fanfictio...Blood_b_bPact_b
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Gojira007 @ Oct 23 2010, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Glitcher @ Oct 23 2010, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ha ha, I like the dream you experienced, Gojira. Ever thought of adapting it for a fan fic? tongue.gif

Thanks. happy.gif And yes, the thought has crossed my mind, but for various reasons I've yet to do a full one, though I may yet give it a try one day. For what it's worth, a germ of an idea from the dream, Sally's possession, did eventually blossom into my biggest Sonic 'fic to date, "Blood Pact", a few years back. You can read at fanfiction.net if you're interested.
http://www.fanfictio...Blood_b_bPact_b

You wrote Blood Pact? Great job!!! It kept me on the edge of my seat. I'll have to look at some of your other fics as well.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:38 PM

Great job Gojira! You didn't fail for once in your life! Woooooo!

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE (Glitcher @ Oct 22 2010, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While we're on the subject, has anyone had any Sonic-related dreams?

Yes. I posted it at some point on one of previous forum incarnations... To summarize: Just because someone saves the heroes, that doesn't make them too heroic a person to splatter a badguy all over his machine controls with a very big gun.

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