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[Cheezmatt]

The book did take itself seriously after Endgame actually. The storylines may have been questionable, but they were rarely written as a farce. Those arguing that these new stories are simply written with the 'target audience' (kids) in mind are missing the point; believe it or not, the comic used to be written with kids in mind without being a shallow piece of crap. So was SatAM, for that matter. So were a lot of other kids' shows.

And I point again to Girls Rule, which was more than just banal product placement for Sega.

[furrykef]

The book did take itself seriously after Endgame actually.

I know. What was lost after Endgame was my ability to take it seriously.

[chief]

Edit: I'm kinda surprised you'd say that Chief, aren't you one of the current co-owners of this site? Don't you want the last remnant of SATAM to live up to its predecessors legacy and to maybe hopefully surpass it someday?

I am one of the owners of the site. Just John and myself. To be honest.. There is not much to be surprised at Ive said it for a while now, Sonic is targeted at kids. Do I wish they kept a few more.. general comics? Yes; and from what Ive read (not being much) not everything dives into the full kiddie corner. If it did I'm sure there wouldn't be all the adults still reading the main Archie series.
A short arc is just a short arc. Who gives a crap if its diving off into 8 year old land? I'm HAPPY that it did that. More kids will get into the Sonic thing that way.

If you think about it.. When did we get into stuff Sonic related? Well, as a kid. With the exception of GMA who was already a balding 20 year old. The audience has always been more kid targeted. The themes and ways they target kids have just changed over the years. Hell, stuff my daughter watches on TV is way different then the stuff I watched.

So why would I be mad at a short Sonic arc for diving into kids territory more then others? If they changed the main comic and started doing that constantly I might go "well kinda stupid cause now you will loose a lot of your adult readers", but for a short? You don't NEED to fork out money for it if you don't want to. You don't NEED to buy it. Just like you don't NEED to wear diapers anymore, or ask your mommy if you can stay up a hour later to watch the Garfield Christmas Special.


Target audience has always been kids. So what if this short is targeting that more so? I'm pretty sure Super Man or batman released some stupid kid targeted stuff in their day too. Its the way of the industry.

[LaserX5]

Target audience has always been kids. So what if this short is targeting that more so? I'm pretty sure Super Man or batman released some stupid kid targeted stuff in their day too. Its the way of the industry.

Can't argue with that. There are probably more kids than adults in the marketing audience.

The best solution I see to this is how DIC handled Sonic when they made animated TV shows of him, which is make 2 completely different series. One that is for kids which has off the wall comedy and zaniness, and the other for teenagers and up, which is way more serious and epic in tone, like in the form of Star Wars, Batman and the Terminator.

But, I doubt that'll ever happen, especially with a weak economy right now.

[Shadow]

I'd like to see them try to do another story about Naugus, really. His stories weren't half bad with him causing a civil war and going to the south pole to absorb the power rings. Him terrorizing Eggman was a plus too when he came back.

[chief]

I'd like to see them try to do another story about Naugus, really. His stories weren't half bad with him causing a civil war and going to the south pole to absorb the power rings. Him terrorizing Eggman was a plus too when he came back.

Those do sound rather good.

[MistressAli]

I just have a problem with the goofy-ass endings where everything is resolved and everyone laughs like in a crappy Scooby-Doo cartoon or something (um yeah, no offense to Scooby-Doo fans out there) They didn't use to do that so much in this comic, and not every issue had to have a 'man-fight' every two seconds. I know the target audience isn't fossils like me, of course, but at the same time I don't think 'for kids/family friendly' means it has to be totally dumbed-down and targeted for 6-second attention spans. It really isn't just this treasure-hunt arc, that's the way most of the stories are now. Some ideas are good, like Eggman torching Knothole and breaking Sonic's confidence...but when it's resolved the very next issue with a neat red bow on top...it's just soooo boring. Kids can handle more epic stuff, really.

[chief]

But if Scooby-Doo didn't end on a happy note kids everywhere would be thinking that the pirate ghost of Scrapy Ville Stadium would come and kill them!

[DCC]

I just have a problem with the goofy-ass endings where everything is resolved and everyone laughs like in a crappy Scooby-Doo cartoon or something (um yeah, no offense to Scooby-Doo fans out there) They didn't use to do that so much in this comic, and not every issue had to have a 'man-fight' every two seconds. I know the target audience isn't fossils like me, of course, but at the same time I don't think 'for kids/family friendly' means it has to be totally dumbed-down and targeted for 6-second attention spans. It really isn't just this treasure-hunt arc, that's the way most of the stories are now. Some ideas are good, like Eggman torching Knothole and breaking Sonic's confidence...but when it's resolved the very next issue with a neat red bow on top...it's just soooo boring. Kids can handle more epic stuff, really.

Blame Sega for the way Eggman torching Knothole was resolved. The only way Ian could get it approved was resolving it the way he did, with Sonic winning. Sonic always has to win in the end, probably one of the only rules I am fine with.

[Shadow]

Sonic not allowed to show any emotional weakness bugs me. Makes him come across faker than Mickey Mouse.

[LaserX5]

Blame Sega for the way Eggman torching Knothole was resolved. The only way Ian could get it approved was resolving it the way he did, with Sonic winning. Sonic always has to win in the end, probably one of the only rules I am fine with.

Yea, Sega has to water down everything of Sonic.

Instead of showing Sonic scraping and crawling his way to defeat Robotnik, they have to use deus ex machina style endings, where Sonic out of nowhere saves the day and everything is back to normal without any repercussions.

Is it any wonder the Sonic franchise is in disarray?

[GamemasterAnthony]

Blame Sega for the way Eggman torching Knothole was resolved. The only way Ian could get it approved was resolving it the way he did, with Sonic winning. Sonic always has to win in the end, probably one of the only rules I am fine with.

Yea, Sega has to water down everything of Sonic.

Instead of showing Sonic scraping and crawling his way to defeat Robotnik, they have to use deus ex machina style endings, where Sonic out of nowhere saves the day and everything is back to normal without any repercussions.

Is it any wonder the Sonic franchise is in disarray?

I know what you mean. The stories used to be great, now they read like...BAD FANFICTION!

[LaserX5]

I know what you mean. The stories used to be great, now they read like...BAD FANFICTION!

I so hope Nintendo or even Sony buys Sega out so we can be done with their garbage. Enough of the mediocre Sonic games and poor stories from the comic! Give us fans something good for a change, Sega!

[furrykef]

I dunno, something radical like that could easily end the comic altogether. Nintendo might not be interested in maintaining the comic. How many Mario comics have you seen lately?

[LaserX5]

I dunno, something radical like that could easily end the comic altogether. Nintendo might not be interested in maintaining the comic. How many Mario comics have you seen lately?

Good point.

Still, I rather have no comic than one that's a complete face palmer.

The Sonic franchise deserves better than this.

[hedgehogfan162]

this should be good for a few laughs

i'm glad they're bringing blaze baze back tho

[henryiii]

this should be good for a few laughs

i'm glad they're bringing blaze baze back tho

I said this once on Saturday Morning Sonic and I'll say it again here.

When did this comic become all about the lulz? what happened to the comic being about good old fashioned drama?

[Juice16]

Nintendo might not be interested in maintaining the comic

Nintendo probably wouldn't need to. They probably would listen to the fans: introduce the main SATAM characters to the video games, write a good story, and get rid of the annoying characters and BAM! We'd finally get a 9/10 or a 9.5/10 Sonic game! Then there wouldn't be any need for the comic anymore.

Unless SEGA somehow redeems themselves within the next couple of years, I'd think Sonic would do better in the Hands of Nintendo than in the Hands of SEGA.

[TBarrett]

Bwahaha! No, Nintendo doesn't listen to their fans. They know that fans have worse ideas than anyone. They do what they want, how they want, and make good games because of it.

[furrykef]

Well, that "not listening to fans" thing isn't working so well for Sega. Yes, many fans do come up with stupid ideas, but not all fan ideas are like "more [insert already overexposed character]!" or "make it more like Final Fantasy VII" or whatever.