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[randomizer]

When did Sally decide to become a businesswoman? She's got a suit going there. With platform shoes.

[Morgan]

....I'm stuck on Sonic's detached mouth in one panel and the awkward eye bubbles. Not attempting to throw an insult in there but I literally did the eye bubbles thing when I was 12 and not as dramatic at that.

[furrykef]

The "eye bubble" thing was also a hallmark of other Sonic artists... I think Steven Butler and Fry. Though they usually positioned them better.

Anyway, I... actually kind of like that Sally design. (I'm assuming there's a reason she's dressed and groomed like a businesswoman, and it's not the artist's whim. In other words, I'd like it in context, not if she were to look like that all the time.) I mean, yeah, her body is absurdly small compared to her head, but that's something of a stylistic choice. One that isn't entirely appropriate for Archie Sonic (cf. the DBZ style discussed earlier), but hey...

Both might have silly costumes and strange proportions, but if I were to choose between Paddock's "Business Sally" and Ron Lim's "Princess Leia Sally" (you know which Leia outfit I'm talkin' about!), give me Business Sally any day.

[J.E.Smith]

Anyway, I... actually kind of like that Sally design. (I'm assuming there's a reason she's dressed and groomed like a businesswoman, and it's not the artist's whim. In other words, I'd like it in context, not if she were to look like that all the time)

I think that was an alternate other Zone where Mobotropolis was really heavy on law and Sally and Snivley were lawyers (It's been a long time since I read that issue but I think her name was Sally McBeal...*groan*)

[John Roberts]

When did Sally decide to become a businesswoman? She's got a suit going there. With platform shoes.

Oops, she did it again.

[Glitcher]

Submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society, I give you the horror of Al Bigley's super-deformed Sally:



Oh, and Rotor is totally ripped in this story! Just look at how he's drawn here:


I also want to go on record and say that this story blows poodoo! After all, it was the predecessor to Nicole getting her holographic Lynx form, and there's so much potential in the premise of Sally and Nicole switching bodies. Unfortunately, it was crammed into five short pages that went absolutely nowhere, leaving a wonderful idea go to waste. Bad Archie!

[John Roberts]

I quite like the layout presentation... but Jesus Christ that's one fuck-ugly Sally. And how can the giant deformed hands be anything but disgusting in this comic lately?

[furrykef]

I like the big hands. The artist is, unfortunately, inconsistent as to how many fingers Sally has, though! (I don't terribly mind if it varies from artist to artist, but at least be consistent with yourself... or at the very least, be consistent with yourself within the same story!)

As for the Sally and Rotor designs... I'm wondering if this is Ron Lim Syndrome ("can draw humans, but not furries"), or just plain ineptitude... the art really doesn't seem too bad besides how it's mismatched with the SatAM/Archie Sonic style, and how Sally's face doesn't work at all.

[Ratty Randnums]

Just to give an idea of what a let down #113 was. This is the cover

I remember getting it in the mail back in the day when I had a subscription/the writing wasn't total ass.
I took one look at that cover and at first I was like ": D" but then

: l

Many hands = the only artist(s) worse than Ron Lim to work on the comic. (To be fair Ron Lim could draw, I think he was just constricted by the time limits and Sonic style when he was used to drawing people.)

[Valerie Valens]

Holy god, that makes Rob Liefield's work look DECENT!

[randomizer]

Robotnik looks pregnant on that cover.

[chalcara]

Ron Lim's actually a pretty good artist, he just got stuck with an assigment wrong for him and his style. His humans are great and he'd do well in a book like Spiderman or Batman. Wrong matches happen sometimes, and they suck for both - for the reader and the artist. Just imagine how Tex Avery would do with an assignment like Sin City - and that's kinda what happened for Lim with Sonic.

Shame on Archie to letting that continue though, but if Many Hands is an indication they did have alot of artist trouble.

On that note: Holy shit, I can't believe that went to print. Did they make the writer draw it? It almost looks like that.

[furrykef]

I just noticed the Al Bigley example has bad lettering, too. The lettering seems to shrink in places because the letterer drew the balloons too small or something. (Isn't it all done on computer anyway??)

It wasn't proofread, either. "Tommy" (in the first panel) shouldn't have a comma after it, not to mention the emphasis seems very strange. There should be a comma before "princess" in the same sentence, though. "The problem is this" should be followed by a colon, not a comma. "The rings stability" should be "the rings' stability". A couple of these are fairly nitpicky -- not really for a professional publication, though -- but there is no excuse at all for missing that apostrophe.

[Chaosmaster8753]

God, this cover is AWFUL. I especially hate the way Espio is drawn, it's so hard for me to describe how it feels.

[furrykef]

I dunno, it has pretty good foreshortening on Sonic's foot. I agree that it's unappealing in most other respects, though.

[MistressAli]

Forgot the issue...but what of this.... Snively-thing? Eesh (ignore lame attempt at humor on picture)



Being an amateur artist I really hate calling people's art 'awful' or saying they suck, but in the context of a professional comic book, some of this stuff is pretty bad.

@212's cover:
That's probably Iron Queen's expression when she has to have sex with that hung-like-a-bull King of hers.

[spoonfullvon]

That's probably Iron Queen's expression when she has to have sex with that hung-like-a-bull King of hers

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Because you gave me that image, you now have to draw the rule 34 of it as punishment.

[furrykef]

The weird thing about that Snively is that it's not too far removed from a well-drawn Snively... you just make a few tiny changes to his face and it looks all weird...

[Gojira007]

The main thing with that Snivley is that his face has been drawn too realistic...it doesn't mesh well with his cartoony proportions, nor does it really match how he usually looks.

[The Man]

Someone needs to meld the Grand Naugus together. Zek from Ds9 and Naugus from SatAM.

But it's easy to crisize something that isn't yours. It's also deserved in some cases too.