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[TheRedStranger]

That's pretty young. But I personally think Sal would...

 

Well, you just gotta read EoT to find out. I deal with this problem.

[MagentaDrake]

18 and 19? ... I guess so. I'm only 24 though so my view of ages is still askew. I still think 30's old. LOL.

[Uncle Ben]

18 and 19? ... I guess so. I'm only 24 though so my view of ages is still askew. I still think 30's old. LOL.

 

i dont get it

[MagentaDrake]

What?

[Uncle Ben]

What?

 

Winky face threw me off

[MagentaDrake]

OOOOH! That was my "I'm being funny and not totally serious right now" face

[Prince ByTor]

I have to agree with MagentaDrake as far as Sonic being the prize that Sally must win. While I am pro Sonic X Sally, I have said it before as far as Archie comics where I am okay with her hitching up with Ken because it would mean it could actually happen per Sega's edicts where Sonic can never marry. So, in essence officially, unless something changes, Sonic and Amy both are destined to live their lives single. I kind of get a twisted enjoyment knowing that no matter how much the Sonic X Amy fan club would wish it happening Sonic can never officially get together with Amy.

Personally whenever I think of Sonic and Sally getting together I never see Sonic or Sally settling down and just ruling the kingdom. As I said before, Sally sitting there chained down as a ruler and 'castrated' like people say she would do to Sonic would not only be a waste of the character she is, but it is untrue to who she is: a woman of action. How do I personally view them? I see them as having a very exciting marriage full of adventure that would not be anything like the boring drivel people have written, which includes the official sources as well.

That all being said, the question has been asked: does Sally need Sonic? Absolutely not. As it has been said: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."

Quite frankly there are not very many other men in the Sega cannon I'd want to see her get tied down to. However, seriously if Tails was closer to her age I think they would make a very good couple.

[TheRedStranger]

However, seriously if Tails was closer to her age I think they would make a very good couple.

 

How would that work?

[Prince ByTor]

 

However, seriously if Tails was closer to her age I think they would make a very good couple.

 

How would that work?

 

 

How it would work: I don't know... Sega and Archie aged Amy. I mean, she used to be Tails' age and now she is as Sonic X Amy fans say: close enough in age to have a relationship.

I see Tails as ending up more emotionally and mentally mature than Sonic and if they were of a similar age I think that Tails and Sally would compliment each other.

[RedAuthar]

 

 

However, seriously if Tails was closer to her age I think they would make a very good couple.

 

How would that work?

 

 

How it would work: I don't know... Sega and Archie aged Amy. I mean, she used to be Tails' age and now she is as Sonic X Amy fans say: close enough in age to have a relationship.

I see Tails as ending up more emotionally and mentally mature than Sonic and if they were of a similar age I think that Tails and Sally would compliment each other.

 

I see Knuckles having a better chance with Sally than Tails, regardless the age thing.  Tails may compliment her intelligence, but for the most part neither will ultimately benefit the other personality-wise, making it more "that would be a cute relationship" but not a "that should happen".  

[Prince ByTor]

 

 

 

However, seriously if Tails was closer to her age I think they would make a very good couple.

 

How would that work?

 

 

How it would work: I don't know... Sega and Archie aged Amy. I mean, she used to be Tails' age and now she is as Sonic X Amy fans say: close enough in age to have a relationship.

I see Tails as ending up more emotionally and mentally mature than Sonic and if they were of a similar age I think that Tails and Sally would compliment each other.

 

I see Knuckles having a better chance with Sally than Tails, regardless the age thing.  Tails may compliment her intelligence, but for the most part neither will ultimately benefit the other personality-wise, making it more "that would be a cute relationship" but not a "that should happen".  

 

 

Agreed with that one, but I don't really see Knuckles complimenting her personality either. In the end Sonic is really the only Sega Sonic character that is truly compatible with her.

That's kind of a good way to judge a pairing: if you have to do anything to alter a character to make him/her compatible then what you are really doing is just as you call "shipping." I guess you could say the same for Amy; Sega had to change the original concept of the character to make her a viable pairing with Sonic.

[RedAuthar]

Yeah.  Like I said before, Amy X Sonic isn't a bad pairing per say, just AMy herself needs some work. 

[MagentaDrake]

With the maturity being an essential piece of any proper relationship I would put Amy and Sonic together. Neither of them would compliment each other and neither has the maturity to be anything but a fling.

 

Sally and Sonic is much better. But a more mature character would be even better for Sally.

 

As far as a girl needing a guy or a guy needing a girl ... I believe everyone needs influences. I believe Sonic's personality is a good or a necessary "influence" on Sally. But teaching her those lessons could be easily filled by a best friend not a lover. 

 

And as far as Sally's future as a boring princess... no I do not think it would ever suit her character to be chained to the throne. I just don't see her ever giving up the responsibility to it. That means her life may be full of adventures but it will also be full of heavy responsibility. 

[Captain Sorzo]

Am I the only one here who feels Sally would want a 'boring' life of peaceful rule? In many respects, she's the antithesis of the cliched princess bored of normalcy that longs for adventure and excitement. Sal was deprived of normalcy from a very young age and dedicated herself to restoring that idyllic status quo. She's seen plenty of 'adventure'...which turned out to be horrifically brutal, resulting in the loss of many comrades and an incredible amount of pressure being placed on her shoulders. The hope of creating a peaceful future free of 'excitement' is among the most important things that have kept her going in the face of this hardship.

 

No sane person who has experienced war firsthand ever longed for more of it.

[RedAuthar]

Am I the only one here who feels Sally would want a 'boring' life of peaceful rule? In many respects, she's the antithesis of the cliched princess bored of normalcy that longs for adventure and excitement. Sal was deprived of normalcy from a very young age and dedicated herself to restoring that idyllic status quo. She's seen plenty of 'adventure'...which turned out to be horrifically brutal, resulting in the loss of many comrades and an incredible amount of pressure being placed on her shoulders. The hope of creating a peaceful future free of 'excitement' is among the most important things that have kept her going in the face of this hardship.

 

No sane person who has experienced war firsthand ever longed for more of it.

True, but at the same time she has already shown to not agree with the boring life destined to her on numerous occasions.  

 

1) She doesn't like the rules/traditions of who she can and can not marry.

2) She's pointed out that her council was much more effective than the lone king.

3) She pointed out to the Council of Acorn that she isn't going to wait for them to deliberate when action is needed. 

 

She may want a more boring life, but not necessarily the one she's supposedly going get.  

[TheRedStranger]

Am I the only one here who feels Sally would want a 'boring' life of peaceful rule? In many respects, she's the antithesis of the cliched princess bored of normalcy that longs for adventure and excitement. Sal was deprived of normalcy from a very young age and dedicated herself to restoring that idyllic status quo. She's seen plenty of 'adventure'...which turned out to be horrifically brutal, resulting in the loss of many comrades and an incredible amount of pressure being placed on her shoulders. The hope of creating a peaceful future free of 'excitement' is among the most important things that have kept her going in the face of this hardship.

 

No sane person who has experienced war firsthand ever longed for more of it.

 

 There is a difference between a life of discovery and being a hero to many, and being a solider stuck in the trenches. 

 

 Try being a missionary. It is the most edifying and wonderful things you can ever be. And ussually you get guns pointed at you. If it's the other way around, you are doing something wrong.

 

No Sally is too passionate and proactive a person and too smart of a girl to live such an archaic and backwards life. The monarchy failed and countless have suffered. It is time for a revolution. The burden of sole rule is a burden she doesn't deserve. She freed them of their chattles now they should take up their own burdens and rule themselves in a republic.And she has too much skill in other areas to be a hand-waving fop with a sparkly crown.

 

 I could see Sal moving on with Sonic, helping other peoples of Mobius and enjoying the world. Being an activist.

[Captain Sorzo]

1) She doesn't like the rules/traditions of who she can and can not marry.

2) She's pointed out that her council was much more effective than the lone king.

3) She pointed out to the Council of Acorn that she isn't going to wait for them to deliberate when action is needed. 

 

All of those are from the comics, which I don't consider the definitive source for analyzing characterization, but I'll bite. The first two concern reform, not adventure. The third involves her taking action when circumstances demand it, something that is very much in character but is different from my point. She's taking action out of necessity, not because she enjoys it.

 

She may want a more boring life, but not necessarily the one she's supposedly going get.

 

What her future would actually be like is another subject entirely. I was contesting the beliefs stated by several posters that her enjoying a 'boring' life of peace would be out of character.

[TheRedStranger]

 I don't see the comics as very accurate depiction her or the potential world-building. The Acorn Council was a joke, and was massivly oversimplified. That was not a republic it was bickering oligarchy of weak-minded egotists and mushbrains. 

 

 Sally is better off at Sonic's side being his foil in the constant quest to improve and protect life on Mobius all the while savoring it. As writer I would fight for this because it leaves the door open for more possibilities for the story. I do not find her in the least to be bloody thirsty or a militartistic expasionist like some Daiymo wishing to be Shogan or a Shika raising the Black-Flag to conquer in the name of Islam. Of course not. But I think she is a reformer by nature (and sorta of a repressed romantic). She'll pick a lifestyle that will give her something in return while giving so much to the world for that is her passion. There is always something new and wonderful to be done, and a new story to tell... She couldn't stand just sitting their growing fat and old on a dusty throne, stewing in a malaise. She despises violence but is restless like Sonic to pursue a good (like her quest to find her father or the secret scrolls) with a tight focus. Also, remember who we let into our lives will change who we are. I see Sonic getting to Sally more than Sally getting to Sonic. 

 

 Besides, any sane professional write will tell you  the death of a character is found in making the making the character static,and/or a moody introvert beyond necessity (Anakin!). If they just think and feel and never do anything about those thoughts and feelings, the character stagnates. That is why the lier reveal-plot is so hated now in cinema. There is a whole montage of people being depressed and not doing anything. Yeah, that's what I paid money to see...depression! There is always something to do in the narraitve. There is no true passivity only a building up to movement, action, or event. Sally has more story's in her beyond the defeat of Robotnik and Snivly and the rebuilding of her society. If I didn't believe this I wouldn't be writing EoT.

 

 Also no that violence and the writer's definition of conflict are not mutually inclusive.

 

 My ideas on what Sally would be at thrity could still write some great adventure stories.

[MagentaDrake]

I think this is where you loose me. Maybe I've never read into Sally as much. Either way, I do not think she would be happy if she was a monarch with no adventure... but I don't think she has nearly enough wonder-lust to stay with Sonic. Sally will be ready to take things slow. She will always have adventures but she's someone who wants and will set down roots. Sonic is not that kind of guy and it makes them a little too different. Amy is no better because she is still naive enough to put a fairy tale as her life goal. She'll grow out of it and then she'll be ready for a beau. 

 

And when I say adventure I do not mean taking on Eggman or fighting. I mean Adventure, discovering new places, traveling, being spontaneous,...and all that. 

[TheRedStranger]

 I just keep on seeing the season finale of Satam when you said that. I think deep down Sonic is willing give a little, and Sally likewise. In the end... Sonic "is her hero." Those are her own words.

 

 You forget that all relationships have one thing in common: sacrifice. Sonic is those things but he cares about You both have to give up some to get alot. Philospher/preacher Timothy Keller has great book called The Reason for God, that talk about the nature of all relationships in depth. It's a recommended read. One two force meet there is always friction, but like most things in life worth having you go through the burn to get what you yearn. And those two are mad about each other. They are capable of mutual sacrafice to be in an edifying relationship.