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Sonic the Hedgehog #187 Preview Scans
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 06:11 PM
Good grief not again. Ian won't do anything with Mina or Amy and is jumping hoops and making plotholes to put Sally close to Sonic. And given those two have a lot of potential, the only reason why they're not being developed to be more apart of the story (which is Sonic's life) and the only reason I can think of for Mina still having her useless boyfriend and (currently useless) singing career is because oh noes! How dare Amy and Mina fans have a differing opinion? How dare anyone see how girls other than Sally can share a meaningful compatible relationship with Sonic? Cry me a river, Ian. If this isn't a bigass sign as to what's going to happen I don't know what is. Why can't people keep their shipper opinions out of the book? Everyone acts like the ending of Sonic and Sally isn't obvious. Ian went on record in that 134 review that he was real butthurt over the breakup. I really don't even see why its worth talking about anymore. We know the ending. Horray for another pairing I don't like, and canontards howling about their pairing and how SonSal being together MUST make it better. One more reason to enjoy the books direction 
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EDIT: Reading page 1, I have to agree that it's pretty well known they're spies. So would it really be best if they're present? I'm not going to make any conclusive statements until after I've read the whole thing. More fanservice by seeing old characters. I'm going to hope that there is of course more to the actual story content than that.
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EDIT: Reading page 1, I have to agree that it's pretty well known they're spies. So would it really be best if they're present? I'm not going to make any conclusive statements until after I've read the whole thing. More fanservice by seeing old characters. I'm going to hope that there is of course more to the actual story content than that.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:33 AM
Yes, it does look like Sonic and Sally are taking steps to get back together, which I am happy about (of course).
St.John does kind of have a James Bond look. He also reminds me a little of "Spy Fox,"a kids computer game that the children's museum I work for has one of the computers. Mogul doesn't seem worried that St.John will find anything, plus Mogul is powerful.
St.John does kind of have a James Bond look. He also reminds me a little of "Spy Fox,"a kids computer game that the children's museum I work for has one of the computers. Mogul doesn't seem worried that St.John will find anything, plus Mogul is powerful.
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:28 PM
I don't know what role Rouge and St. John will have to play in all this, just have to wait and see.
But I too enjoyed this issiue.
What I mean is it had good dose of everything, from comdey (Sally baiting Bean with the bomb) to supense (Nack telling Sally she had ten seconds to get help), to hints of stories to come in the near future (Merlin going off to find answers to Sonic abilltey to go super when the emerald was locked, plus many others), plus so much more.
Now as pro, if you know what I mean, I espiecally liked how Ian hints at the possibitly of Sonic and Sally getting back together (not in this issiue or the next, but very soon).
I also enjoyed how Ian wrote Sally in this one, for she seems to denfenlty have come full circle, to accepting (as hard as it seems) of Knothole being gone, to not be used to being in the great forest without the rest of the freedom fighters, to reflecting on how at one point in their lives that when fighting the war, that coming back to Knothole it didn't seem to bad at all, to where unlike Sonic and the others, she wishes she could had made the transtion in the changes of the time just as easily, and to the point she regerts her emotionally outbust back in #134.
Overall it wasn't a bad issiue, just have to wait and see, and I do look forward to next month's issiue.
And as far as Matt Herms artisc debut, I felt it was done very well, to the point you could almost mistake his art for Tracy's.
Also it was good to see the origianl badnik trio again.
Overall rating: 7/10 stars.
But I too enjoyed this issiue.
What I mean is it had good dose of everything, from comdey (Sally baiting Bean with the bomb) to supense (Nack telling Sally she had ten seconds to get help), to hints of stories to come in the near future (Merlin going off to find answers to Sonic abilltey to go super when the emerald was locked, plus many others), plus so much more.
Now as pro, if you know what I mean, I espiecally liked how Ian hints at the possibitly of Sonic and Sally getting back together (not in this issiue or the next, but very soon).
I also enjoyed how Ian wrote Sally in this one, for she seems to denfenlty have come full circle, to accepting (as hard as it seems) of Knothole being gone, to not be used to being in the great forest without the rest of the freedom fighters, to reflecting on how at one point in their lives that when fighting the war, that coming back to Knothole it didn't seem to bad at all, to where unlike Sonic and the others, she wishes she could had made the transtion in the changes of the time just as easily, and to the point she regerts her emotionally outbust back in #134.
Overall it wasn't a bad issiue, just have to wait and see, and I do look forward to next month's issiue.
And as far as Matt Herms artisc debut, I felt it was done very well, to the point you could almost mistake his art for Tracy's.
Also it was good to see the origianl badnik trio again.
Overall rating: 7/10 stars.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 03:23 AM
It sounds like I am going to like how Sally is written in this issue too, bwrosas. It seems like Sally is learning from her mistakes, and is discovering that being a Freedom Frighter is an important part of who she is and how she loves and serves her people. She understands the risk and is willing to take them. It seems like Sally is growing as a person, it is exciting to watch. I am proud of her. From what I have heard about this issue, I am glad I decided to buy it.
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It seems like Sally is learning from her mistakes, and is discovering that being a Freedom Frighter is an important part of who she is and how she loves and serves her people.
On the flip side, it sounds a lot like reverse character development. Princess Sally is still heir to the throne. If anything should happen to Elias (and a lot of things have nearly if not already happened to the royal family lately might I add), she's next in line. Also, keep in mind Elias only took the position to protect Sally and made it verbally clear in prior issues that he didn't want any legitimate children to be involved with politics let alone rule, anyway.
So the situation hasn't really changed for Sally since the time she broke up with Sonic. The only thing that's different is a new, younger king. Sally was repeatedly made aware of the risks involved with being a Freedom Fighter, and she not only obeyed but applied it. For someone who loves and wants to serve her people, why risk her future position as the future queen by Freedom Fighting? Not only that, but why do that when she had an opportunity to be part of the counsil, an equally constructive more and safer job?
What I think you want DC, is for Sally to be a Freedom Fighter because she'd have more screentime than if she did if she weren't. The problem I have with Sally Freedom Fighting is not only the OOCness of it, but the fact that over the years, the Freedom Fighters have grown adept and aware of their abilities and really don't need Sally as much to help them anymore. The dynamic between Sonic and Sally has also been shaken up as a result because, not to say that he'd never, but Sonic doesn't need her brains nearly as much as he used to. Anytime a writer does try reversing this, it tends to reverse Sonic's development, and the acquired skills of the other characters. In short, in order for Sonic/Sally to "work" under the formula Ian's creating, but it'd be rather difficult for Sonic to become more skilled and develop because he's holding back just to make Sal look unnecessarily smart.
Sally's position and the direction of the book kind of makes me question the need for a Freedom Fighter group. With Freedom Fighters, people expect them to be the top teir characters who intentionally go on dangerous missions. The problem with this formula is that the comics aren't nearly as dark as they used to be so it sounds a little...awkward. I mean, the Freedom Fighters are there and I'm not suggesting we get rid of them all but it doesn't really feel like SatAM even with their position still around. Furthermore it ailienates characters like Sally or other potential contributors who could also take part in more spontaneous adventures that lack the intention of a plotted mission. Maybe they do or don't need to go, or maybe its just Sonic who needs to quit so that he can have a more wider range of characters enter the stories that wouldn't be able to do so otherwise... like Sally for instance (well, provided she were actually in character for once).
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I don't think Freedom Fighting is an important part of how Sally contributes to her people. Even if we were to ignore all of Sonic's character development there are other characters who show promise in the strengths Sally used to demonstrate as far as leadership and dealing with Sonic's impulsiveness. So Freedom Fighting isn't an "important" part of how Sally helps her people. And Sally's identity as a princess is also an important part of who she is, and it's greatly structured her personality abilities, and life. It also gave her a story of intruige that no other main characters had. Now she's gotten a lot more boring and is simply "The love interest that is dumbing down Sonic." Great way to anger Sally haters even further, the ones that have been complaining she's been a Mary-Sue anyway.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:09 PM
Or heck, maybe Sally is clinging to what she knows. Freedom fighting with Sonic and co. was a big part of Sal's life for the past decade or so. I think it would be hard for one to make the transition. She and the others are fighting a war against someone wants to take everything away from them...and maybe Sal realizes that with the destruction of Knothole, life really is that precious and she has to cherish what she has, no matter what she may want. So perhaps she's giving into Sonic's way, so as to keep him close.
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Or heck, maybe Sally is clinging to what she knows.
But Sally knows more than just Freedom Fighting. This is a girl whose been trained to be the queen, and has demonstrated those abilities repeatedly.
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and maybe Sal realizes that with the destruction of Knothole, life really is that precious and she has to cherish what she has, no matter what she may want.
I'm sure Sally was well aware of that moral by the time Sonic returned to Mobius during the "Home" story arc. She may understand that its precious and I can understand her want to contribute to something, but Ian's sidestepping the fact that Sally understood and applied her parent's rationale for not Freedom Fighting because it was not only dangerous, but the monarchy could be greatly compromised if she so-happenly died like she nearly did during Endgame and Sonic #100. Even if Elias hasn't, why the heck haven't her parents stepped in yet to stop her?
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So perhaps she's giving into Sonic's way, so as to keep him close.
I understand that Sally may care about Sonic, but she's made it very clear that she holds the people closer to her heart than him alone.
I'm not saying that Sally shouldn't be a potential love interest or that she needs to be effectively written out of the storylines like Archie's attempted doing with Mina, however on the other side of the token, I just don't see the need for her as an active Freedom Fighter anymore. This is a girl who is heir to the throne and could have easily joined the royal counsil if she honestly wanted a more constructive way to use her abilities until she actually is the queen. The Freedom Fighters don't really need to depend on Sally's brains, and were in fact dwindling in their need for her long before Sonic even went away for that year. The fact of the matter is: Sally's only there for fanservice, and her predicament along with similar characters in her position makes me question the need for Sonic being a Freedom Fighter anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I do love SatAM. I strongly support the idea of Sonic having SatAM-style adventures, but more along the lines of a freelance adventurer instead of an employed member of a royal orginization. Let's be honest, the Freedom Fighters are no longer the rag-tag rebels they were in the show, and have over the years, transformed into a organized, government law enforcement agency now.
Another problem is the fact that back when the Freedom Fighters were the predominant pressence of the book, there weren't many other characters that supported Sonic more sufficiently. The comic is about Sonic, but even during the early storylines, Sally and Tails were the only Freedom Fighters who actually supported him directly. Antione used to since he was a romantic "rival" for Sally, but lost that when he got paired off with Bunnie. Bunnie is a supporting character of Sally and I could see her intuitiveness as something that could honestly assist her in becoming a top-teir member who supports the group. Rotor is a supporting characer of Tails maybe, and Antione for Bunnie but that's just being a supporting character of an already supporting character. Half the Freedom Fighters aren't supporting characters for Sonic, and with more and more characters coming in from the games and comics providing these story-mechanics in a way that's more effective, Sonic being a Freedom Fighter just comes off as restrictive to me. The stories become too formulaic, and many people question "whose the main character of the book" because instead of finding a way to incorporate a cast member, Archie focuses too much on stories for characters who're too unrelated to him.
If Sonic weren't a Freedom Fighter the characters who contribute the most to his life could enter the book more freely. There wouldn't BE as much fan-fear as to whether or not characters like Sally take a royal position over Freedom Fighting because she could still have spontaneous adventures even if they aren't pre-meditated like missions. Let the Freedom Fighters be apart of the stories, I welcome it. But only when Archie can actually figure out how to use them because as of now, they enter the stories in quantity but not in quality.
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Keeping Sonic close? One of the reasons why Sally broke up with Sonic is because of the fact that she wanted someone she could have a relationship with that could be safe from harm. Not only is Sally totally ignoring her own safety, but she for no apparent reason has forgotten her upset towards Sonic being on the battlefeild because of the danger towards his life. Worse yet Sally has had 2 razor thin brushes with death. And yet she is still reckless enough to throw herself into battle. We ALL have loved ones who probably do different things than we do. Sally does "Dear Aly" Bunnie likes to do hair, Mina sings, Rotor and Tails are into technology, Sonic likes racing around. Actively keeping in contact with the freedom fighters using Nicole's currently mobile technology throughout missions, and contributing from another more secure location is not impossible. My point is that we all have loved ones we can't spend EVERY second of the day with, and we still make time to bond and stay close. Sonic and Sally are there but Sally doesn't strike me as very important anymore even with how Ian writes her.
So was her position as princess. She may not have been stuck up about it, but she trained even before the war began to become the future queen. She has had to deal with the position of future queen through molding the governing systems of the original Knothole, and acting as law enfrocement. She's also had to undergo many rites, and suffer greatly due to her desire to maintain a future as the next queen. And yet it should be easy to just throw all that in the trash? And even if it were beleivable for her to simply toss out her responsibilities, the beleif that there are many people who could take her place (*cough and there are *cough*) and planning ahead for the future, where the hell are her parents? The very people who did not want her to battle for practical purposes scold neither her nor her brother for their incredibly reckless behavior.
But she has the ability to rule after Elias. Her potential to serve the council is also still there. Even when not on the council she will debate and discuss their beleifs almost as if she were one of them (Enerjak plotline). She can cherish her friends, that doesn't mean she has to be reckless about it. And what about her people, whom she claimed to care more for than Sonic. Being reckless by needlessly involving herself in feild battles, or not contributing to the actual government does nothing to express she cherishes them.
Actually one of the things I hate is this sudden "Lets make war look like a playground" routine Ian's got going on with her (one of the aspects I miss about SatAM was a lack of that). Originally in 134, Sally had a good understanding about how dangerous war is. I mean what your saying is the equivalent of someone wanting to go back to Vietnam for the hell of it. Not to serve their country but for the fun or hell of it. To be able to get out of that situation would for most people, Sally included-- a breath of fresh air. She saw war as a dangerous enviornment that nearly killed her twice. It was evident that she was incredibly disillusioned towards the concept (if she had been illusioned in the first place) by her desire to keep Sonic safe, and the agreement she had with her parents not to engage in the fighting. Sally is currently not like a Vietnam or Iraq veteran who is going in and out of battle with a sense of purpose or duty. If Sally had any sense of duty she would not be doing this. She is no longer necessary to the team in that sort of way, and has a greater calling in politics.
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Freedom fighting with Sonic and co. was a big part of Sal's life for the past decade or so. I think it would be hard for one to make the transition.
So was her position as princess. She may not have been stuck up about it, but she trained even before the war began to become the future queen. She has had to deal with the position of future queen through molding the governing systems of the original Knothole, and acting as law enfrocement. She's also had to undergo many rites, and suffer greatly due to her desire to maintain a future as the next queen. And yet it should be easy to just throw all that in the trash? And even if it were beleivable for her to simply toss out her responsibilities, the beleif that there are many people who could take her place (*cough and there are *cough*) and planning ahead for the future, where the hell are her parents? The very people who did not want her to battle for practical purposes scold neither her nor her brother for their incredibly reckless behavior.
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She and the others are fighting a war against someone wants to take everything away from them...and maybe Sal realizes that with the destruction of Knothole, life really is that precious and she has to cherish what she has, no matter what she may want.
But she has the ability to rule after Elias. Her potential to serve the council is also still there. Even when not on the council she will debate and discuss their beleifs almost as if she were one of them (Enerjak plotline). She can cherish her friends, that doesn't mean she has to be reckless about it. And what about her people, whom she claimed to care more for than Sonic. Being reckless by needlessly involving herself in feild battles, or not contributing to the actual government does nothing to express she cherishes them.
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I think it would be hard for one to make the transition.
Actually one of the things I hate is this sudden "Lets make war look like a playground" routine Ian's got going on with her (one of the aspects I miss about SatAM was a lack of that). Originally in 134, Sally had a good understanding about how dangerous war is. I mean what your saying is the equivalent of someone wanting to go back to Vietnam for the hell of it. Not to serve their country but for the fun or hell of it. To be able to get out of that situation would for most people, Sally included-- a breath of fresh air. She saw war as a dangerous enviornment that nearly killed her twice. It was evident that she was incredibly disillusioned towards the concept (if she had been illusioned in the first place) by her desire to keep Sonic safe, and the agreement she had with her parents not to engage in the fighting. Sally is currently not like a Vietnam or Iraq veteran who is going in and out of battle with a sense of purpose or duty. If Sally had any sense of duty she would not be doing this. She is no longer necessary to the team in that sort of way, and has a greater calling in politics.
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Posted 22 April 2008 - 12:01 PM
I would say What I'm about to say in audio or video, but I'm not.
Now let me explain something.
What Sally went though at the time was emotionally stress.
What I mean is after Sonic was blasted away for a year, Sally like everyone thought he was dead, although she may have made herself believe that Sonic was still alive somewhere, but as time went on, she too started to believe Sonic was dead.
And remember what the King said in #134, he mentioned that Sally had/was working with Dr. Quack, to help her out emotionally.
But when the love of your life returns from the grave sort of speak after being away for a year, and then gets thrust into a battle that you have to watch on a moniter, and you see your love get injured again, then how do you think your going to react?
What I'm saying is Sally was going though a lot emotionally, she wasn't thinking straight, and that allowed her to be malpuated at times, and put into situations she didn't want to be put into.
But it was #173, along with #'s 176-177 that in my opnion turned Sally around and made her realize where her true place was needed at the time, and that was with friends defending their freedom from tyanny.
Sure she knows someday she may have to take the throne as the next queen, but right now that's possibly the last thing on her mind.
Remember what she told Sonic at the end of #177, that her new hair do (orgianl SatAM hair do) was a symbol that her heart and mind was back on the right track.
I hope that clears a little of what you guys have been saying up.
If not, At least I tried
Now let me explain something.
What Sally went though at the time was emotionally stress.
What I mean is after Sonic was blasted away for a year, Sally like everyone thought he was dead, although she may have made herself believe that Sonic was still alive somewhere, but as time went on, she too started to believe Sonic was dead.
And remember what the King said in #134, he mentioned that Sally had/was working with Dr. Quack, to help her out emotionally.
But when the love of your life returns from the grave sort of speak after being away for a year, and then gets thrust into a battle that you have to watch on a moniter, and you see your love get injured again, then how do you think your going to react?
What I'm saying is Sally was going though a lot emotionally, she wasn't thinking straight, and that allowed her to be malpuated at times, and put into situations she didn't want to be put into.
But it was #173, along with #'s 176-177 that in my opnion turned Sally around and made her realize where her true place was needed at the time, and that was with friends defending their freedom from tyanny.
Sure she knows someday she may have to take the throne as the next queen, but right now that's possibly the last thing on her mind.
Remember what she told Sonic at the end of #177, that her new hair do (orgianl SatAM hair do) was a symbol that her heart and mind was back on the right track.
I hope that clears a little of what you guys have been saying up.
If not, At least I tried
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Sure she knows someday she may have to take the throne as the next queen, but right now that's possibly the last thing on her mind.
Yeah and that's the sad part. The explanation is a lose lose either way.If Sally weren't under emotional stress Sally would be looking more into the future. The fact that she no longer cares to visualize the reprocussions of her very rash decisions actually goes further to destroy her very credentials as a leader at this point. If she is under emotional stress, which has a historical record of impairing her ability to function, she is in no condition to be on the feild anyway. Either way Sally's place is not on the feild anymore, and the only reason she was at one point was because it was necessary. It's not necessary anymore. We have feild leaders, we have people who have learned to keep their cool under emotional stress, we have people who are resourceful about their enviornment and use surrounding data to make important feild decisions. We have characters that can hack and Nicole has clear signs of sentience and mobility. People in the past liked to argue Nicole needed Sally because Sally was who had to request what information to search for (a point disproven in Mecha Madness though). But today things are very different.
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Remember what she told Sonic at the end of #177, that her new hair do (orgianl SatAM hair do) was a symbol that her heart and mind was back on the right track.
No it was a symbol that Ian wants her back in the feild and to smooch up to Sonic, even if it proves to be an incovenience to the story, Sonic and a vast array of other characters. This is about Ian's decision, not what is in character for Sally or what is in character for her parents to allow or not at the very least discuss with her.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 04:04 PM
Miko,Shorty....cant you ever make a short answer to something?
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Miko,Shorty....cant you ever make a short answer to something?
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Personally, I could care less about the dynamic between Sonic and Sally at this point. The writing is so atrocious that I find it difficult to become emotionally attached to any character, save for maybe General Stryker during his minuscule moment of heartfelt grief in #186.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:08 AM
Now that I have seen the issue, I can say for sure that my favorite part was Sonic and Sally's talk. I am glad that Sonic has forgiven Sally, it does show that he has a heart and has sympathy for Sally and what she has been through. Overall, it worked for me, I guess I have come to care about the characters so long ago, that I can overlook any flaws in the writing if I like the results. I understand why some people would want Sonic to still be a little angry towards Sally; I hated the slap in#134. It just made Sally look bad and gave anti-Sonic and Sally people fuel.
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The historical behavior of the SonSal community and what it will mean if Sonic/Sally get together is enough fuel to hate that pairing. There didn't need to be a slap around the world, and thus the two forgiving each other is barely a "victory" for Sonic/Sally fans because it hardly addresses the true reason people of other pairings are so hostile, and why they fight so much. During the love triangle (heck even before it), when Sonic and Sally were together for 10 issues, and when Mobius 25YL arrived, SonSal fan reaction was valid reasoning for people with seperate opinions to just hate that pairing altogether. It was enough reason for the community to receive some serious backlash, and to a degree some butthurt. Seriously why do you need Sonic to have an official, cemented relationship with anyone? Would If I for instance said "Look Sonic will not be officially paired with anyone at the end of the story, if ever" would that be enough for you? For many SonSal canontards it wouldn't, because they just haaave to shove their opinions on others. Sonic doesn't have to be very overtly romantic anymore. This isn't a soap opera. One of the only reasons people won't let it go is because if they don't then they can't be smug about the ending.
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It just made Sally look bad and gave anti-Sonic and Sally people fuel.
That's what I feel is the true reason underlying why Sally or Sonic/Sally fans hated the slap in general. I don't think it even had as much to do with the fact it was out of character since Sally's lost her composure numerously, even in better situations. It was the fear that people would have a valid reason to hate her, which is why I think her fans tried parading her actions as "OOC" despite the fact nothing in the continuity said she wasn't capeable of doing it.
Ian warranting plotholes to "ease" the problem in addition to ailienating the other girls (Mina and Amy) and dumbing down/reversing character development for her to have a place isn't going to do much to alleviate people's hatred of Sally. He's trying to rectify the slap, and he tries pitching her back with the group, but where he tries reconcilling Sally in some ways, he either overlooks or opens a can of worms in others.
The problem with how Sonic/Sally is being developed DC, is that it makes fans outside the pairing defensive. Mina and Amy are love interests, and just as part of Sally's development revolves around Sonic, so does a lot of theirs. When Ian tries overlooking them for Sally it makes fans defensive because they know their girl is going to get written out of the book and thus a flamewar starts with sides stating reasons as to why they think their girl should stay or the other should go, etc.
So really, it doesn't matter what Ian does to try to "revamp" Sally's image. Both he and Sally's fans need to get over this dellusion that everything will be fine and people will like her if she goes back to her more archetypical persona. The fans who dislike her now, are probably going to still dislike her regardless. Only when a writer enters that provides a sense of fairness between the love interests, will you even possibly see fans laying off of her and giving her a break.
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Hi guys,
I'd just like to weigh in here...
Now that the Acorn Monarchy has been replaced with the Republic of New Mobotropolis, there is a council of six members that diverts the power from the throne. If for some reason the monarch were to fall, the state wouldn't be in a dire situation. There are plenty of other members remaining in power.
Thus, if Elias died, Sally would still take the throne; however, there would be no immediate, critical need for her (because of the others). And until that day should come, she's returned to her roots as a strategist for the Freedom Fighters!
I hope I'm making sense.
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I'd just like to weigh in here...
Now that the Acorn Monarchy has been replaced with the Republic of New Mobotropolis, there is a council of six members that diverts the power from the throne. If for some reason the monarch were to fall, the state wouldn't be in a dire situation. There are plenty of other members remaining in power.
Thus, if Elias died, Sally would still take the throne; however, there would be no immediate, critical need for her (because of the others). And until that day should come, she's returned to her roots as a strategist for the Freedom Fighters!
I hope I'm making sense.
-Ethan (EnergyEmerald)
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 07:30 PM
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Now that the Acorn Monarchy has been replaced with the Republic of New Mobotropolis
Who said anything about the monarchy being completely replaced, here? If anything, the Republic's become an added form of parliament so that the people can have more of a say in what happens to their government. Besides, it doesn't matter. With mad dictators, godmodding mammoths, Finitevus and the Destructix its very possible that Elias or even the counsil members could die. Heck Anti-Antione nearly killed Elias, and King Acorn and he was successful in getting rid of General D'Colette IIRC. If that were to happen, Sally would still need to be secured.
Furthermore, Sally went back to Freedom Fighting before this even took place. So even if we were to hypothetically assume that what you were saying was true, it still doesn't change the fact that her actions were OOC. And lets not even forget Rotor, who despite being in a high counsil position is still Freedom Fighting and risking his neck.
So the fact still remains that one, she's still heir to the throne, and two, we can argue that it was OOC for her to not even join the counsil. As far as Sally considered, there were plenty of other people willing to risk their lives to protect the kingdom. it didn't have to be her or Sonic which implied that she was aware of the fact that the Freedom Fighters had become a more capeable group without her. So why risk the throne by joining a group who doesn't even need her as much anymore, when she could have opted to join the newly-arranged counsil which she's already contributed to anyway?
The true answer is: Sally's fans fear that she'd be written out of the book. In reality, they don't care whether or not its in character for her to do these things so long as its convinient for them.
But what do SonSal fans expect from all this? Respect? I don't have a problem with Sally being a potential love interest but neither I or many fans outside the MoFo-related MBs are going respect some pairing that cheated in order to get where it is. In fact, that makes people hate it and their fans even more; the fact that their girls have the opportunity to develop with Sonic but can't because some writer or a group of fans want a pairing so badly they'll go hurdles and cheat their way into getting it. And that's not even touching on the non-pairing plotholes Sally's contributed to in regards to this.
However, being a Mina fan I can understand why they'd be defensive about this. Like I said before the Freedom Fighters create an automatic teir system that allows too many unecessary characters and filters out those more necessary to Sonic on a more personal level. Provided she were in character, Sally would be one of the cast members suffering from this problem which again brings about the question: Should Sonic even be a Freedom Fighter anymore if so many contributing characters to his life wouldn't be able to appear as often because they're in a position that's outside the group?
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