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[Cheezmatt]

Time to start up that bake sale idea again, hey?

[EthanHedgehog]

Oh yeah, a bake sale is TOTALLY gonna help. Will you please buy a brownie for $4,000,000? There's no way we could lose.

[masterblaster]

You're gonig about this all wrong. You need celebrity endorsements!

Go to one of those rock concerts or movie screenings and get some celeb's autograph. Just make sure the paper you stick out in front of them is the Petition paper. Most of these guys don't know what you are handing them and they sign it anyway.

Take the signed petition and email it to TMZ saying "X actor/actress supposts the return of SATAM to the airwaves".

It's that easy.

Better yet, land a spot on the American idol Trial shows and Recite the SATAM theme before being booted off.

The Attention and acclaim SATAM would get would be Astronomical!!!

[John Roberts]

Sounds like a great idea if you enjoy getting sued.

[masterblaster]

Well, I was “somewhat” joking with my last comment.

But I was more or less serious about the celebrity endorsement and American Idol thing.

Someone other then Ben Hurst needs to come out of the woodwork for the show.

Come on, “Pants on the ground”? Do something stupid on national television and just be there with a SATAM poster or something.

Heck, go to one of those “Tea Parties” that are happening all of the time here in America dressed as a Sonic character. There’s some chick on SMS with a Sally costume. Get those two together with a sign saying “Down with the Dictator” or “Down with Tyranny”.

You’ll be so out of place that someone with a camera and microphone will come up to you and ask you for a story.

Be creative.

[Valerie Valens]

Not gonna happen, at least not in a way that will end well.

[masterblaster]

The trick is to get average people interested in or talking about the show. People who aren’t online or have even heard of FUS or SMS. The DVD revival was one of those things. You could walk into a Wal Mart and buy the boxset. It was new (to the average joe) and a fresh take (the last video outing was on VHS and only a few eps.) on the SATAM show.

If someone, anyone outside of the internet is “still” talking about the show…a revival can still take place. And that revival doesn’t necessarily HAVE to be a new TV show, or Feature Film. It could just be a renewed “interest” in preexisting things with a SATAM label attached to them

[Valerie Valens]

Yes, but how many trekkie fans were there when the show and franchise got revived?

[masterblaster]

I’m not gonna lie, SATAM is small minority in the vast universe of Sega Sonic franchises. But if you combine FUS, SMS, and the thousands of SATAM fans on DA into one pot. Suddenly your small minority is looking pretty big. And that’s just your online presence. That’s not including the SATAM fans offline who remember watching the show but just forgot about it.

The SATAM fanbase is fragmented in this regard. Especially in the realm of “revivals”. There have been some SATAM fans in the past that have given the revival a bad name. It shouldn’t just be “one” person that saves the franchise. It’s a joint effort. And if the community in general is weary of your intentions or doesn’t think you’re professional enough…you’re the captain of “RMS Revival” with no crew. And you’re going to sink, because your ego couldn’t see the iceburg heading your way.

United we stand, divided we fall, etc. etc.

Heck, go to one of those “Tea Parties” that are happening all of the time here in America dressed as a Sonic character. There’s some chick on SMS with a Sally costume. Get those two together with a sign saying “Down with the Dictator” or “Down with Tyranny”.

Palestinian protesters pose as Na'vi from "Avatar"



Hehheh…I can’t help but picture Palestinian protesters dressed up as Freedom Fighters raiding a Israeli tank with stones and rocks.

And you thought I was crazy!

[EthanHedgehog]

I have to agree with you on that masterblaster.

Hey remember how I said I tried to get a lisence for the characters(that might have been on the petition thread, sorry)? Well, I kinda told you wrong. The first time I tried to bring SatAM back, I wrote to Mr. Don Mesa, SEGA's marketing director. Anyway, he wrote back saying he had gotten several letters like that, but that it's illegal to use our ideas. That's were the whole licensing idea came from. And while I've written to SEGA's licensing department a couple times, I never got a reply. I decided that I needed some evidence to convince SEGA to consider the license agreement.

[Valerie Valens]

Ehhh, I don't see a point in forming a millitia for a show that only a small percentage of the profitable audience would actually give a shit about.

If you really want a franchise revival, nothing short of dangling a carrot in front of Sega's nose will do the trick. The question is, what this carrot is, and who is able to procure that carrot.

[masterblaster]

The question is, what this carrot is, and who is able to procure that carrot.

Archie?

[ALIENwolve]

The question is, what this carrot is, and who is able to procure that carrot.

Archie?

Nah. Obviously those characters are doomed to the forces of evil, as the cover shows.

[acstrife]

In total agreement there.

[masterblaster]

How about...



Da Bear?

[Ratty Randnums]

If Sega was interested in the Archie characters they wouldn't be wanting a more SoJ feel for the comic, and more sega characters in it. Besides it would be an embarrassment to them to have to resort to characters/a western property they didn't actually create. And judging by it's relatively small fanbase there's no reason for them to think they couldn't make something just as profitable and more appealing.

[ALIENwolve]

How about...



Da Bear?

You may have something there. But he'd probably end up stealin' tha' show.

[Roareye]

Hey remember how I said I tried to get a lisence for the characters(that might have been on the petition thread, sorry)? Well, I kinda told you wrong. The first time I tried to bring SatAM back, I wrote to Mr. Don Mesa, SEGA's marketing director. Anyway, he wrote back saying he had gotten several letters like that, but that it's illegal to use our ideas. That's were the whole licensing idea came from. And while I've written to SEGA's licensing department a couple times, I never got a reply. I decided that I needed some evidence to convince SEGA to consider the license agreement.

I have a knowledge of the situation SEGA has with it's licencing, and it's ability (or lack thereof) to produce it's own new merchandise. Believe me that any upcoming projects would need the approval of Jetix, which was recently bought by Disney. So you need Sega, Disney and whatever company owns DiC.

The truth is, however, these companies are not going to okay the licencing rights for a show with no development, no scripts and no actual new information to add to the already established (and long since abandoned) production line. Yes you will need names, like Ben Hurst, supporting it, but his name isn't going to be enough to showcase any real potential for a company that would have to part with money. He's not Tom Cruise, and regardless of how you may feel about that comparison, the fact is Mr Cruise makes money for definate. Ben Hurst does not. You need some definates for the companies, or some already pre-created works which showcase the scale (if it is even large enough in scale) of the project working in their financial favour.

It is cold, it is somewhat unfair and not a very pleasant reality, but that is business. SEGA Europe are the most fan-friendly company I've ever met, and even then SoJ are almost impossible to work with or get anything out of for their own fanbase. Sumo Digital had to actually fight for every character in Sega Superstars Tennis, because SoJ would refuse the rights without long winded and solid proof of why they should put the characters in there. SoJ are only trying to protect their property, but if they would make it so difficult for a company they hired and funded to make their own game, they're certainly not going to go easy on funding something for the fans.

If you really want a franchise revival, nothing short of dangling a carrot in front of Sega's nose will do the trick. The question is, what this carrot is, and who is able to procure that carrot.

The carrot would be some names willing and ready to work on the franchise, who have already gone out of their way to begin pre-development scripture, artwork, concepts and storyboards in their own time. Like a freebie of what they can expect from a group should they decide to fund them to create a finalised project. So Ben Hurst would need to spend unpaid time writing some scripts, you'd need a somewhat big-name artist willing to do prelimary art and rushes without being paid etc etc All in the hopes the pitch will be successful and they'll be in business, which is far from guaranteed. Also, what professional will happily work at their job for free? Big big obstacle.

How about...



Da Bear?

I am going to stress his show is not official. Sure it would tick all my aforementioned points (Scripts, art and animation etc all worked on at the preliminary and soon complete level for free) but neither myself nor Miranda are big names in the industry (As mentioned, this is an early portfolio project for our studio) and it's very unlikely SoJ would allow for a new SatAM show since they want to try and solidify everything into SegaSonic canon. I will be looking into licencing with SEGA, Disney and DiC later on for Blu-Ray releases of this (In small numbers) but it's unlikely to be a store release. Moreso it will be an order through DdS online service, and that's only if these companies give the okay to do it. Reason being that Full HD movie files that are 28 minutes long tend to be a little large for your standard download lol.

And as for getting names involved, I will be speaking to Ben Hurst at some point. I want to ask a favour and get some suggestions on a particularly difficult episode, but first I have to find out how to contact him. I'm finding his contact details difficult to find (Not surprising cos otherwise he'd be inundated with constant reams of "Bring bax SatAM! I will save yor show!" emails all the time

Roareye Black.

[masterblaster]

Sally, Rotor, Bunnie etc. have been portrayed outside of SATAM for many, comics, toys, chapter novel books, and even video game cameos.

People inside and outside the fandom have all gotten their fill on those characters. Whether it was solely from the DiC cartoon or Archie Comics…people can readily tell you if they “love” or “hate” charactesrs (such as)Sally from the get go.

But who is SATAM Fisher?

Nobody outside of the SATAM show will know him. And even then, only the diehard fan would even remotely know who you are talking about.

So if you take this remote unknown character and flesh him out to being a bad@$$ Freedom Fighter…then that just gets more people talking about SATAM and if fans across the aisle universally like him…that’s even better. As you have now established a “common ground” for people to jump into SATAM and…who knows…might get some people to buy the DVD to check out the official adventures of “the bear”.

If “the bear” can make SATAM cool across the spectrum, then he needs a toy line, various t-shirts, multiple action figures, a foreign language spin-off show! Etc. Etc.

:^D

But still, being a UK fan, I find it cool that you are using an obscure character from a 20 year old American cartoon and refreshing him for a 2010 audience. That IS…somewhat…another revival of SATAM. Be it “official” or “not” that’s still pretty cool.