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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself


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Posted 15 January 2010 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (FreakyFilmFan4ever @ Jan 15 2010, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will probably watch it again in the IMAX, rent the Extended Cut when it comes out on DVD, and then be done with it until Avatar 2. That will just go straight to the Netflix queue so I can see if it gets any better story wise. If it does, then I will go see the last installment of the trilogy in theaters. If not, then I simply saw two really pretty movies... and that's not a bad deal, overall...

QUOTE (chief @ Jan 11 2010, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I loved it. Mind you it was like futureistic Pocahontas. Even had the Mother Willow thing going on. Some glow in the dark willow tree of fiberoptic cables connecting them to the world (organic internet).




I heard Cameron wrote the script for Avatar in 1994.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:27 PM

Doesn't mean we still haven't heard the same old story before. At first, Avatar actually reminded me of a direct rip-off of FernGully: The Last Rain Forest. Whether it was or not isn't the point. The point is: it's always bad if a movie starts to remind you of a hundred other things you've watched within the first 20 minutes, and therefore everything else that happens in the film can be guessed at 20 minutes in advance. Including death scenes. Why? It's because I've seen that movie before. The creatures just were big and blue in it, that's all.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 07:21 AM

I dunno. James Cameron has never exactly put together a mind-boggling script with great insights into his characters. Even his best script, Terminator 2, has a robot who wants to be human and learns to say jokes, like Data. But that's not to say that a script like Terminator 2 doesn't still stand head and shoulders above an effort like Avatar. The script had a (heavy, often artless) Social Problem Subtext, but it was directed at an actual, present social problem, humanity's continued reliance on nuclear weapons after the end of the Cold War. And it even had some cute character touches about the nature of conflict, most notably the fact that Sarah Connor, attempting to assassinate Miles Dyson, has come to resemble nothing so much as the remorseless, relentless, calculating robots she wants to stop. (And also the implicit anti-nuclear premise of the series, emphasized more heavily than in the original film, that Skynet realizes humans are a threat to its existence because, rationally, they shouldn't want nuclear weapons or a system to control them.)

Avatar, by contrast, resembles Crash in the way that it tries to bring a really old fashioned social conflict into the present/the future. Crash won an academy award because the academy's members all wanted to pat themselves on the back for not being Racist, like all those people from the 1960s--I mean, in this contemporary movie, excuse me! While actual modern racism that you'll encounter gets swept under the rug. Similarly, Avatar can make American's hearts swell with pride, as we've finally figured out that the whole 1850s genocide thing was wrong, solving all problems of imperialism forever.

What's particularly disappointing is the way that we have another science fiction movie addressing the same class of issues, but in a modern setting, and with (despite unfortunately cartoonish villains) an astoundingly sensitive ear for how middle class people think and behave, District 9, which doesn't have nearly the same level of success.

This is leaving aside basic gaps of logic and character motivation in Avatar. Also I get that it's pretty and everything but even in a tropical reef not everything looks like a tropical fish. After a while that got to be like technicolor vomit. I was sitting in the second row, admittedly.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 11:21 PM

every time someone talks about a story "not being original" or they've "heard it before" need to read Hero with a Thousand Faces. Granted, I understand the complaint about hearing the same story over and over with a different package, but there is a Jungian reason for it.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 11:46 AM

I'll be the first to point out that there's nothing new under the sun. I'll also be the first to point out that writers shouldn't use that fact as a crutch when they can't make a story feel "fresh".

Also, this is probably worse than the time when everyone named their kid "Frodo": AVATAR Names for Kiddies.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:17 PM

hehehe, that kind of surprises me. Although my young niece is named Trinity, so I guess it shouldn't surprise me that much.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:54 PM

As a celebration of my Holiday Vacation coming to a close, I finally bit the bullet and went with my Mom to see Avatar. I went in with mixed feelings...and left with equally mixed feelings.

To start with, in terms of film-making technology and effects work (that is to say, pretty much THE reason this Movie's gotten so much attention)? Yeah. This is a game-changer, no two ways about it. I saw this thing in full IMAX 3D, and on those two levels it is indeed staggering. Immersive to a level no other Movie has ever been before, ever. There are absolutely times, particularly whenever we spend an extensive amount of time with Avatar!Jake wandering about the wilds of Pandora, where it all feels like a very pretty Video Game, admittedly, but for the most part, the visuals are every bit as mind blowing as you have heard. Admittedly, I have to wonder how impressive they would be without the IMAX 3D to support it, but seeing as how IMAX 3D is what this was made for, I'm willing to let that question slide for the most part. Design-wise, it's a bit more of a mixed bag. The Na'Vi themselves are certainly well-built(save for a detail with their hair that proves rather...bizarre for me, but I'll say no more of that here for Spoiler reasons), and most of the Wild Life is intriguing. A pack of small, vaguely-hyena like creatures that attack Jake in the thick of the Jungle in particular, with skull-like faces and eerie glowing eyes, caught my eye and impressed me. Some of the other beasties, though, such as the multi-winged, vaguely pterodactly-like fliers the Na'Vi use to take to the skies, left me more underwhelmed than anything. The actual landscape of Pandora, though stunning to look at, also felt either overly gimmicky (such as flowers which cartoonishly plunk into the ground when touched) or else generic and re-used (such as a gigantic tree Neytiri's tribe makes its home around and within). On the whole, though, the film is indeed a feast for the eyes.

The story and characters, however...not so much.

That is not to say it's a complete wash, mind you. Zoe Salldana does fantastic work as Neytiri, who is easily the most interesting, compelling character in the Movie. Sigourney Weaver is likewise pretty solid as Dr. Augustine, who is also a solid if somewhat unremarkable character. I'm even willing to give Stephen Lang credit for his turn as Big Bad Colonel Quaritch; yeah, the character's flat and ultimately uninteresting, but Lang does a good enough job with him that you can at least manage to half-way love to hate the bastard. Likewise, there are some nicely underplayed thematic touches, such as the fact that the Weapon of Choice for the Bad Guy Army dudes are essentially de-personified, non-organic "Avatars", or the way in which the Na'Vi so symbiotically interact with their environment and world.

Everything else, though? Ugh. Big time ugh. The big one to start with here is not the fact that the Plot is fairly threadbare and cliche (though it is), or even that it is overly preachy in its themes(on this, I must confess, I actually found it handled itself well; its metaphors are fairly naked, true, but that ultimately proves not too bothersome to me). No, the critical weakness here is that Jake Sully is a poor lead character, and Sam Worthington an equally poor actor to portray him. There is literally no point in the film where Sully comes across as particularly interesting or compelling, at all. Given that the Movie's story centers on him at just about every level, that's a big problem. Part of the fault lies with the Script, which banks all but exclusively on the visual splendor of the Movie communicating just what drives Sully's character arc and thus leaving nothing but the most didactic bits of said development for him to actually express on his own. The rest of the blame, though, has to go to Sam Worthington, who just completely and utterly fails to bring any sort of genuine life to this character, spending almost the whole film coasting emotively and failing utterly to be convincing whenever he tries to go beyond that. The rest of the cast doesn't fare much better, with Giovanni Ribisi as a transparently uninteresting Evil Corporate guy, Michelle Rodriguez as a rogue Military Pilot whose character has potential but ultimately winds up being kinda superfluous to the Movie as a whole, and an even more superfluous character in the form of Joel David Moore's Norm Spellman, whose character arc is so vaporous it may as well not exist. The story too has some exceptional structural problems. The opening Act is more than just a touch boring, the Second Act only marginally interesting for its exploration of the Na'Vi's culture and customs (which themselves backfire as being some of the worst examples of the condescending "Mystic Natives" angle since Disney's Pocahontas). The Final Act is where all the action ultimately ends up, and even here the film has to resort to a staggering Deus Ex Machina to keep itself going. While there is indeed some visceral fun to be had during the End Battle of the film, it is hampered significantly by some outright idotic tactics choices by the "Good Guys" (you'll know 'em when you see 'em) and some astounding leaps of logic on the film's part in terms of what it chooses to show us of it, as well as a Final Showdown that starts out promising but quickly becomes rather uninteresting.

On the whole, then, I do not believe Avatar to ultimately be a good movie. Indeed, I'm not even sure I can fully say you should see it for the experience, either. Instead, I shall simply sit here and ponder yet again why my taste and that of the rest of the world at large are so at odds, and wait for the Movie which can match Avatar's visual power, but with a Story and overall cast that can equal it as well.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:54 PM

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. . . my young niece is named Trinity . . .

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Note the lack of statistics, btw; these sorts of articles are actually basically viral ads planted by the studio to snag repeat-business and late-goers.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 10:02 AM

Well, I believe the title of the "article" was "Avatar Kiddie Names on the Rise". If one person names one kid "Na'vi" or whatever, then yeah. It's technically on the rise from last year, when no one named their kid that.

@ Gojira007, I kinda felt the same way about the movie. The visuals are cool, but that's about all the movie had going for it.

In another 10 years, when the special effects of Avatar would have been well surpassed, people are going to look back at the shallow plot and lack of character development and ask: "Why'd they watch THAT movie?"
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 11:00 AM

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In another 10 years, when the special effects of Avatar would have been well surpassed, people are going to look back at the shallow plot and lack of character development and ask: "Why'd they watch THAT movie?"

Unlike the 30 minute mark into Episode One when most people were already asking that.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 02:26 PM

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Unlike the 30 minute mark into Episode One when most people were already asking that.
The Phantom Menace had some even more basic script problems, such as (I can't believe that a problem this glaring did not occur to me specifically until someone basically told it to me) not having a protagonist. I mean, Avatar is kinda shallow and features technology and character decisions (especially around the climax) don't really make a whole lot of sense, but it manages to have a main character and follow most of the Syd Field approved upbeats and downbeats.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:06 AM

Avatar's far better than the new Starwars triology, IMHO - it didn't make me run out of the cinema in pain.

The story's meh, but it did struck the right emotional chords at the right time. And - most importantly - it didn't get in the way, like bad stories do. The world's inspirational, and I learned alot about what NOT to do with the trarr while watching it. To be honest, I didn't care about the story at all - I went into that movie with the same mindset I went into Riddick and Waterworld, which was basically "switch of brain and enjoy the ride." Although I have to say, Riddick was better.

My favourite character in Avatar was by far the lady scientist and - the colonel. He DID care about his people and I liked how he went from resonable commander stuck on a fucking hellplanet to frothing mad ideot.

I did activily dislike Jake Sullen though. Stupid ideot - no matter for whom you cheer; he screwed over both, the humans AND the blue thundercats. The Na'vi were a little bit too perfect and came over as arrogant bastards.


All in all, Avatar's a technology demo - and from what I've seen it's been intended as such from the begining. The movie accomplished what it's supposed to do: push the limits of 3d and make money that way - and that's far more than most other movies do.


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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:58 PM

I'm not going to dignify any prequel bashing with a response. Even though I would like to, it probably isn't worth it.

I will answer one however:
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The Phantom Menace had some even more basic script problems, such as (I can't believe that a problem this glaring did not occur to me specifically until someone basically told it to me) not having a protagonist.

Protagonists are superfluous when you have Wankatine. However, it did have its fair share of protagonists--they were merely hideously maladroit. There's isn't anything wrong with protagonists that accomplish nothing aside from furthering the villain's plans.


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Posted 03 February 2010 - 07:16 AM

Do not get me started on the prequel Trilogy. That mess was an insult to the original trilogy, to say the least. I am quite ashamed to have thought that Episode 1 (besides the pod-racing section) was any good.

As for Avatar, it was okay. The emotional-heartstring-tugging was cheap and the villains were 1-dimensional, but the story works. I am pretty sure many will keep loving the movie, despite questioning it years later if the movie was actually as stunning as they will have remembered it, or if it will have become a guilty pleasure like Snakes on a Plane for me. (I watched it for Samuel Jackson and was satisfied, the story on the other hand...it was pretty fucking stupid.)

On a more amusing note, I learned that the DVD release will have a Na'vi sex scene in it, which prompted to to go "James Cameron is a fucking FURRY!" Then I lol'd heartily.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 09:52 AM

Snakes on a Plane had a stupid story? Shocking.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:00 AM

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I learned that the DVD release will have a Na'vi sex scene in it,

Wha..?!

Do you have a link?
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:40 AM

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Do not get me started on the prequel Trilogy. That mess was an insult to the original trilogy, to say the least. I am quite ashamed to have thought that Episode 1 (besides the pod-racing section) was any good.

I stated that I wouldn't indulge in this, but because I'm bored, I will. I want to get you started on the prequel trilogy. Please elucidate why the prequel trilogy is an insult to the original trilogy.


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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:30 AM

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Wha..?!

Do you have a link?


Here's a very sarcastic link.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:12 PM

The cut Na'vi 'sex' scene is one of those things, you think about it and your first thought is, "my God, that's stupid." Then you wait for about ten seconds, and then you realize it's not stupid it's wrong, terribly wrong. The ultimate intimacy, with your mount.

Yes, Beavis, I said "mount."

Hey Exor Palpatine has next to no role in Phantom Menace. I get that the movie sets up the later movies, but that's the whole movie; Lucas didn't have any problem starting A New Hope right as things got interesting. I also have no objection to a protagonist who ultimately fails to stop the villain and winds up hurting the one person he wanted to protect. Nor do I have a problem with multiple protagonists if a movie is feeling up to it. Characters who are kind of like protagonists except that they don't have clear goals that the audience can understand and empathize with, potentially more troublesome.

You should watch everything after that link earlier if you're really bored and want to get angry. Stroke Guy reserved arguably his most brutal takedown of a movie for Phantom Menace, and some of the suggestions for improvement are pretty strong. "Qui Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi should have been cut and replaced by a single character: Obi-Wan Kenobi"

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:39 PM

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Hey Exor Palpatine has next to no role in Phantom Menace.

What are you blathering about? Palpatine, as both Senator and Darth Sidious, had plenty of aggregate screen time devoted to him, even more than every member of the Jedi Council. He's responsible for the entire plot of the movie--well, every movie if you want to get technical--and makes frequent appearances as Darth Sidious via hologram when he's not interacting with the characters as Senator Palpatine. His rise to Supreme Chancellor is also chronicled--which, along with the discovery of Anakin Skywalker, is the whole point of the film.

The Phantom Menace features one of Palpatine's most expansive foreground roles, lagging only behind Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi.

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Lucas didn't have any problem starting A New Hope right as things got interesting.

Ironically, A New Hope is my least favorite film in the saga. I also find it to be the most boring.





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