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[furrykef]

Paulsen may be a damn good voice actor, but it didn't make Antoine any less annoying.

[BlazeyBakeneko]

I figure Ant probably would have been better if they played up his "Guy with confidence issues" thing more than the whole "Have I mentioned I'm French today?" comedic schtick.^^;;

Of course, with the proper writing I suppose you could balance both aspects of the character.

[roxannihilation]

I honestly was content with Archie's decision to pair Bunnie and Antoine and is probably one of the few plot lines I would be content with in SatAM knowing it's being shared with the Archieverse continuity.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I couldn't have found a better romantic partner for Bunnie, simply because I feel that she would be the only one who wouldn't find his advances annoying too.

...Also like Ali said however, there's always Sniv. But it's hard for me to see that happening for our little wannabe dictator.

[Massagraf]

Another thing about Antoine/Bunnie that bothers me: Ever noticed how incredibly boring they became after their marriage in the comics? I remember when Bunnie used to have catfights with Rouge and smashed up some of Jack Rabbit's Robians. That was awesome. Now they're just so goddamn... 'sweet'. Hugging in the trees, Antoine yelling in French when Bunnie's in trouble, caring for her when she's wounded, acting the happily married couple... if you see Bunnie you just know Antoine has to be around. She lost her individuality and now they're like that annoying couple you see kissing in public at the schoolyard (yeah, we know you like each other, you can stop showing off your kissing skills...) She also lost her flirt with the other characters which was one her main and most fun characteristics.

Bunnie being in love is okay but a little infidelity makes it more fun. Antoine changed her into a bore.

[Whammy]

The choice was easy for me to pick Antoine. I saw it in the comic first, as my first issue ever was #46 where they first paired up. But as I found my footing in the Sonicverse, I quickly discovered Proforce's fanfics, and what was likely the first real attempt at pairing the two. To me, theirs is still the best.

I don't think the marriage in the comics has been the worst thing for them. It's improved Antoine's character because now he has a purpose, something (and someone) to fight for. And for Bunnie, she deserves love, always did (even if it's not mine). The biggest thing I can't wrap my head around with their comic marriage is the future kids. Two questions: How the heck does Bunnie procreate when nothing from the waist down is organic, and how the freak do the kids have cybernetics born into them?!

It baffles the mind, but they're still my pair.

[Massagraf]

The pregnancy of Bunnie was a really lame idea indeed. Logic tells us that if you have a roboticized crotch, you can't bear children. Especially not children with robotic limbs themselves. How painful must the pregnacy have been? Even worse, what kind of hellish pains Antoine had to go through just making the babies? The knowledge of being infertile would've only given the comics a more mature and dramatic undertone. Real life situations, just like Buns' NIDS and Scourge kicking her out (discrimination, AIDS, infertility, adoption...) Does anybody know why Bunnie's crotch was roboticized in the comics and not in SatAM anyways? In SatAM, it could've made sense.

About Antoine: He never was a very interesting character, brave or not. But I wonder, has he ever even hit someone with that sword of his? I've always see him parading around with it and blocking attacks, but did he ever stabbed somebody? I don't recall. Sonic runs bad guys over, Bunnie her slams them down, even freaking Amy Rose smashes them with her hammer, but Antoine never seemed to help in battles like that. He's almost as useless as before, and that saying a lot. But of course he can't stab somebody in a children's comic book. That would be too much blood. If he had another weapon which the causes won't have to be censored...

See, it all comes down to a bloody weapon, which already is way to far-fetched. Now he's got something to fight for, ture... but he always had, didn't he? Freedom. That's why they were called the Freedom Fighters, weren't they? Bunnie does deserves love but just not Antoine... they're opposites of one and another, even if he was first. Also, she shouldn't be married anyways. I think her personality couldn't cope with the knowledge of being trapped in one love. It's not about the comics anyway, it's about the SatAM, in which Antoine is not a brave man with a sword, but a coward. And since Knuckles was supposed to be introduced and those very confusing Archie KtE-backstories weren't involved, they'd be perfect. She won't be a Julie-Su who follows him around, she'd still be a Freedom Fighters with her holiday crush on a floating island.

[Marble Didymus]

Wait.....what? Antoine and Bunnie had kids in the comic? With metal appendages? Holy angry librarians Batman, I would have loved to see Dan Drzen's face.

Also, didn't this happen in a fan fic already? It was goofy enough there.

[chief]

Why the hell would she have half borg kids? Is her crotch like a broken robotacizer or something... Only does half the job?


"Sorry Bunnie, your vajayjay is spiewing out everything we are against...Your kids must die"


...Yes I said vajayjay. And never again shall I say that.

[Massagraf]

Honestly, I like Archie, but... no. Just... no.
Sorry guys, but it really doesn't work that way. It's not that easy.

[LaserX5]

Sonic has a crush on Sally, Sally has a crush on Sonic, Antoine has a crush on Sally, Rotor is gay and Bunnie seemed to have a crush on everyone.

In season 1 and 2, Bunnie didn't really have a lovelife. She flirted with Sonic, Antoine, Uncle Chuck, sometimes it looked like she flirted with Sally too... almost everyone I guess, but never really got into 'action'. As we all know, Bunnie's Archie counterpart married with a French coward I shall not name.

Let's just imagine there was a season 3, and you were one of the writing staff. You have the final choice, whatever you decide, happens. Now I know they'd never let something like this happen: (who made that one anyway?!), but let's say you've got all the freedom to choose (no love life is not an answer!). Who would it be?

I could definitely see Bunnie with Knuckles. They both would be very compatible.

It would even be interesting to see her date Sonic for a bit when Sally's dating some other Freedom Fighter, but only if it made Sally jealous and make her miss being with her true blue. Yea, it would be priceless to see the look on Sally's face when Sonic's making out with Bunnie.

And then to top it off after Sally goes back to Sonic, have a love triangle between Bunnie, Knuckles and Antoine, who by now gives up trying to win Princess Sally's heart and instead settles for her best friend.

Now that would be an interesting subplot in the Satam Series.

[J.E.Smith]

Wait.....what? Antoine and Bunnie had kids in the comic? With metal appendages? Holy angry librarians Batman, I would have loved to see Dan Drzen's face.

It pretty much drove him insane (Snippet from his review of the issue):

OK, this story hit a major brick wall for me when we
were introduced to Jacque and Belle D'Coolette, the offspring of
Bunnie and Antoine. Hey, another set of twins is something I can
relate to, being a twin myself. I can NOT, however, find any
valid reason for them to take after their mother by having one
bionic arm and one bionic leg each.

Whatever happened to Bunnie when she was partially
roboticized, it simply could not have affected her at the genetic
level which is where and how it would have affected her kids.
I've said repeatedly that science isn't my best event, but I DO
know that Bunnie's bionics fall outside the realm of "acquired
characteristics."

The theory of acquired characteristics has a long history,
going back to Hippocrates and Aristotle. Closer to our own day,
it was championed by Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829), Charles
Darwin (who called his version of it "pangenesis"), and Trofim
Lysenko (1898-1976) who based Stalin-era agricultural policy in
the Soviet Union on it. Basically, it's the theory that "changes
in physiology acquired over the life of an organism (such as the
enlargement of a muscle through repeated use) may purportedly be
transmitted to offspring" [Source: Wikipedia].

Which sounds good, but real life just doesn't work that way.
No matter how many changes happen to an organism, they're not
necessarily translated into the necessary genetic changes that
are passed along to succeeding generations. Forgive me if the
discussion gets a little coarse at this point but scientific
understanding demands it. Perhaps the simplest way to disprove
the idea of acquired characteristics is for the men in the
audience to drop their pants.

If there's one procedure that significantly changes the
physiology of the male human organism, it's circumcision. And
after thousands of years of performing the procedure in a variety
of cultures, either shortly after birth or at puberty, you'd
think that pre-circumcised males would have started to show up
somewhere on this planet. But it just hasn't worked out that
way, just as Lysenko's attempts at applying the theory to Soviet
agriculture consistently met with failure (Lysenko's theories
were finally and formally denounced and Mendelian genetics
reinstated in the Soviet scientific establishment in 1964).

All this is by way of saying that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO
GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER FOR JACQUE AND BELLE TO BE PARTIALLY
ROBOTICIZED JUST BECAUSE THAT FATE BEFELL BUNNIE! Sorry to yell
like that, but no matter how fantastic a story is in its details,
I firmly believe that there's still a need for it to be plausible
... that it still has to play by the rules of its own universe,
no matter how extraordinary that universe may be

[IAMAWSOME]

idd go with the good ole Bun/Ant because ive just stuck with it ever since it happened in the comics so it is awesome and who in the heck put Uncle Chuck in the options thats discusting "no cool" srry little sonic i have to disagree with you plus its E=MC2 DISCUSTING(a little quote there from Blast To The Past Part 1)and who put Tails, Tails is 6 years younger than bunnie plus if its not Bun/Ant whos ant gonna be with Roter (E=MC2 DISCUSTING )

[Ratty Randnums]

Honestly, I like Archie, but... no. Just... no.
Sorry guys, but it really doesn't work that way. It's not that easy.

That's so bad it makes my head hurt.

[Inhibitor]

The pregnancy of Bunnie was a really lame idea indeed. Logic tells us that if you have a roboticized crotch, you can't bear children. Especially not children with robotic limbs themselves. How painful must the pregnacy have been? Even worse, what kind of hellish pains Antoine had to go through just making the babies? The knowledge of being infertile would've only given the comics a more mature and dramatic undertone. Real life situations, just like Buns' NIDS and Scourge kicking her out (discrimination, AIDS, infertility, adoption...) Does anybody know why Bunnie's crotch was roboticized in the comics and not in SatAM anyways? In SatAM, it could've made sense.

About Antoine: He never was a very interesting character, brave or not. But I wonder, has he ever even hit someone with that sword of his? I've always see him parading around with it and blocking attacks, but did he ever stabbed somebody? I don't recall. Sonic runs bad guys over, Bunnie her slams them down, even freaking Amy Rose smashes them with her hammer, but Antoine never seemed to help in battles like that. He's almost as useless as before, and that saying a lot. But of course he can't stab somebody in a children's comic book. That would be too much blood. If he had another weapon which the causes won't have to be censored...

See, it all comes down to a bloody weapon, which already is way to far-fetched. Now he's got something to fight for, ture... but he always had, didn't he? Freedom. That's why they were called the Freedom Fighters, weren't they? Bunnie does deserves love but just not Antoine... they're opposites of one and another, even if he was first. Also, she shouldn't be married anyways. I think her personality couldn't cope with the knowledge of being trapped in one love. It's not about the comics anyway, it's about the SatAM, in which Antoine is not a brave man with a sword, but a coward. And since Knuckles was supposed to be introduced and those very confusing Archie KtE-backstories weren't involved, they'd be perfect. She won't be a Julie-Su who follows him around, she'd still be a Freedom Fighters with her holiday crush on a floating island.

I Despised Bunnie and Antoine's wedding. It was stupid, ridiculous, and insane. How could she even have feelings for that wimpy, useless, retarded, imbecile? And what the hell was Ian thinking?! Making Bunnie had kids, PAH. If he was gonna go there, he should have explained how pregnancy REALLY happens and that it's logically impossible for something like that to happen when she has a steel vagina! God dammit I HATE THIS COMIC

[The Man]

Me, furrykef, and salamander are guilty of peeking into this thread at this time. I could easily see Bunnie marry some stranger. I'm sure she makes friends easily with anyone she meets.

[Shadow441]

I saw only a few episodes of satam from watching it on youtube and I thought that Bunnie was flirting some with Antoine towards the end of the comic and I have to go with Antoine cause I'm a fan of the Archie comic

[henryiii]

The pregnancy of Bunnie was a really lame idea indeed. Logic tells us that if you have a roboticized crotch, you can't bear children. Especially not children with robotic limbs themselves. How painful must the pregnacy have been? Even worse, what kind of hellish pains Antoine had to go through just making the babies? The knowledge of being infertile would've only given the comics a more mature and dramatic undertone. Real life situations, just like Buns' NIDS and Scourge kicking her out (discrimination, AIDS, infertility, adoption...) Does anybody know why Bunnie's crotch was roboticized in the comics and not in SatAM anyways? In SatAM, it could've made sense.

About Antoine: He never was a very interesting character, brave or not. But I wonder, has he ever even hit someone with that sword of his? I've always see him parading around with it and blocking attacks, but did he ever stabbed somebody? I don't recall. Sonic runs bad guys over, Bunnie her slams them down, even freaking Amy Rose smashes them with her hammer, but Antoine never seemed to help in battles like that. He's almost as useless as before, and that saying a lot. But of course he can't stab somebody in a children's comic book. That would be too much blood. If he had another weapon which the causes won't have to be censored...

See, it all comes down to a bloody weapon, which already is way to far-fetched. Now he's got something to fight for, ture... but he always had, didn't he? Freedom. That's why they were called the Freedom Fighters, weren't they? Bunnie does deserves love but just not Antoine... they're opposites of one and another, even if he was first. Also, she shouldn't be married anyways. I think her personality couldn't cope with the knowledge of being trapped in one love. It's not about the comics anyway, it's about the SatAM, in which Antoine is not a brave man with a sword, but a coward. And since Knuckles was supposed to be introduced and those very confusing Archie KtE-backstories weren't involved, they'd be perfect. She won't be a Julie-Su who follows him around, she'd still be a Freedom Fighters with her holiday crush on a floating island.

I Despised Bunnie and Antoine's wedding. It was stupid, ridiculous, and insane. How could she even have feelings for that wimpy, useless, retarded, imbecile? And what the hell was Ian thinking?! Making Bunnie had kids, PAH. If he was gonna go there, he should have explained how pregnancy REALLY happens and that it's logically impossible for something like that to happen when she has a steel vagina! God dammit I HATE THIS COMIC

Hey don't blame Ian, it was Pender's idea to marry off Ant and Bunnie. Ian just took credit for the idea and then just did it in his usual ruched and general incompetent way of doing things

That being said i'm very much a fan of the idea pairing. I just wish that it was just done in a more competent way.

[Silent X]

Antoine. Ignoring the fact they were/are together in the comic I'd still go with him. They're complete opposites of each other in terms of Ant being a coward and Bunnie being the "tough gal." That's the way storylines just seem to go sometimes.

[LaserX5]

Hey don't blame Ian, it was Pender's idea to marry off Ant and Bunnie. Ian just took credit for the idea and then just did it in his usual rushed and general incompetent way of doing things

That being said i'm very much a fan of the idea pairing. I just wish that it was just done in a more competent way.

I couldn't agree more with you on this.

Bunnie in the comic fell for Antoine a little too easily. It's like she was in love with him from the start.

In the Satam Cartoon, she was more annoyed by his personality than anything.

And to be honest, I liked that approach better. I mean, why would anyone fall for a cowardly Freedom Fighter?

Sure, she called him a little muffin in one episode, but that was probably because she thought he was cute.

Still, I would have preferred to have Antoine win Bunnie's heart by overcoming his fears and showing her that he is now a tough Freedom Fighter like Sonic.

[TurboFox72]

I really think Bunnie would work with Knuckles. Maybe Bunnie casual attitude would counter Knuckles' temper. I think would start with Knuckles being annoyed by her at first with Bunnie's flirting.